Mom brings 11 yr. Old son in women's changing room at pool

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400

These are not young kids.

When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.

Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.

Not to mention the younger girls in the locker room who don’t want to be naked in front of a male peer. What about their comfort? And their right to not be ogled and not have to see a peer’s penis. Not much different from subway flashers.

It has been well established that girls are not allowed to complain about their feelings of privacy or unease about having males naked with them.

Yes, the feelings of the flasher who wants to force trapped women and girls to see his penis matter much more than the dumb feelings of any girls who might be scared of such a man. We have all been taught that lesson.

Actually nudity is not inherently threatening and so if anyone is “afraid” of a penis or breast they were taught to be so by their parents. If parents are so worried about scared kids then maybe they shouldn’t teach them to be scared of the human body.

Right, the millennia of men killing, raping, and torturing women is just imaginary or something. 🙄🙄

Seldom remembered fact is that men have spent millennia killing, raping, and torturing men too.

We are aware. But we are also not the ones to fix this problem or be forced to be the safe space for men that are scared of men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

Have your kids wear their suit to the pool and change at home or in a stall. I don't get people like you who change out in the open or tell your kids to. Mine don't change or shower at the pool except a rare occasion.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

Have your kids wear their suit to the pool and change at home or in a stall. I don't get people like you who change out in the open or tell your kids to. Mine don't change or shower at the pool except a rare occasion.

Are you raising nevernudes?!

Why should a child at a swim and tennis club have to get in a car, go all the way home, change, and drive all the way back in between back-to-back practices to change if a perfectly usable locker room available for their use? It's not "out in the open". It's in an enclosed room designated for the specific purpose of showering and changing.

People who don't ever use a locker room that is literally built for changing clothes and showering are the weird ones. Not the people who use them!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400

These are not young kids.

When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.

Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.

Not to mention the younger girls in the locker room who don’t want to be naked in front of a male peer. What about their comfort? And their right to not be ogled and not have to see a peer’s penis. Not much different from subway flashers.

It has been well established that girls are not allowed to complain about their feelings of privacy or unease about having males naked with them.

Yes, the feelings of the flasher who wants to force trapped women and girls to see his penis matter much more than the dumb feelings of any girls who might be scared of such a man. We have all been taught that lesson.

Actually nudity is not inherently threatening and so if anyone is “afraid” of a penis or breast they were taught to be so by their parents. If parents are so worried about scared kids then maybe they shouldn’t teach them to be scared of the human body.

Right, the millennia of men killing, raping, and torturing women is just imaginary or something. 🙄🙄

Seldom remembered fact is that men have spent millennia killing, raping, and torturing men too.

We are aware. But we are also not the ones to fix this problem or be forced to be the safe space for men that are scared of men.

An 11 year old is not a man first off. He is just as vulnerable as your 11 year old girl when it comes to predators. I have a 6 year old and there is no chance on gods green earth I am letting him go into a restroom OR changing room solo. I wouldnt let my 6 year old daughter either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

Have your kids wear their suit to the pool and change at home or in a stall. I don't get people like you who change out in the open or tell your kids to. Mine don't change or shower at the pool except a rare occasion.

Or maybe the mother of the boy who wants to avoid the men’s locker room can change at home.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

Have your kids wear their suit to the pool and change at home or in a stall. I don't get people like you who change out in the open or tell your kids to. Mine don't change or shower at the pool except a rare occasion.

This is what you do if your kid can’t use their assigned locker room for whatever reason.

Girls who want to change in the girls locker room shouldn’t have to drive home to change because your son is sitting in THEIR locker room staring at them.

[Anonymous]

1) All locker rooms generally have areas where you can have privacy if you want it

2) Any pre pubescent child is not a threat and its fairly ridiculous to get wound up about it

3) This is why everything should just be gender neutral

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400

These are not young kids.

When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.

Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.

Clearly the answer is more family changing rooms, since you’re all so up in arms about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) All locker rooms generally have areas where you can have privacy if you want it

2) Any pre pubescent child is not a threat and its fairly ridiculous to get wound up about it

3) This is why everything should just be gender neutral

Gender neutral is another way of saying “for men, who are the most important sex.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1) All locker rooms generally have areas where you can have privacy if you want it

2) Any pre pubescent child is not a threat and its fairly ridiculous to get wound up about it

3) This is why everything should just be gender neutral

This is not true, and I've already posted earlier in this thread about my personal experience with a locker room that did not have private areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

Have your kids wear their suit to the pool and change at home or in a stall. I don't get people like you who change out in the open or tell your kids to. Mine don't change or shower at the pool except a rare occasion.

Are you raising nevernudes?!

Why should a child at a swim and tennis club have to get in a car, go all the way home, change, and drive all the way back in between back-to-back practices to change if a perfectly usable locker room available for their use? It's not "out in the open". It's in an enclosed room designated for the specific purpose of showering and changing.

People who don't ever use a locker room that is literally built for changing clothes and showering are the weird ones. Not the people who use them!

If you want to use changing rooms then abide by the rules with no opposite sex over age 5 allowed in women's changing or restrooms. Most places now have family changing rooms, use them. If you have to wait, then wait your turn for the family changing rooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I do not care who is in the room when I change. We all have body parts… an 11 year old boy changing in the girls room with his mother is no big deal. Do I think he is going rape me? No. Do I think he will stare at me? Sure. And then life moves on.

It's not a big deal to you as a grown woman who is not a peer. It is a big deal to my 11 year old pre-pubescent DD who goes to school with the kid. And yes, at our pool we have had a 10 year old boy regularly come into the women's locker room with his mom while my 8 year old DD and her friends were changing. He would sit on a bench and eat a popsicle and stare at the girls as they changed between swim practice and tennis. He had NO business in there.

The situation was 100% not ok and we did have to say something to the manager because the mom ignored other mom's requests to get him out of there. The Board read the mom the riot act and she started using the standalone family bathroom/changing room.

Have your kids wear their suit to the pool and change at home or in a stall. I don't get people like you who change out in the open or tell your kids to. Mine don't change or shower at the pool except a rare occasion.

Are you raising nevernudes?!

Why should a child at a swim and tennis club have to get in a car, go all the way home, change, and drive all the way back in between back-to-back practices to change if a perfectly usable locker room available for their use? It's not "out in the open". It's in an enclosed room designated for the specific purpose of showering and changing.

People who don't ever use a locker room that is literally built for changing clothes and showering are the weird ones. Not the people who use them!

If you want to use changing rooms then abide by the rules with no opposite sex over age 5 allowed in women's changing or restrooms. Most places now have family changing rooms, use them. If you have to wait, then wait your turn for the family changing rooms.

5 feels like an arbitrary age to be honest. I abide by the rules but then facilities should have to provide a family changing room for safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is really nutso. You people are truly quixotic. 11 year olds at the pool with parents do not pose any threat to anyone. Nudity is not scandalous. Grow up.

Then why can’t the 11 yo go in the men’s changing room?

Because men are perverted

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400

These are not young kids.

When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.

Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.

Not to mention the younger girls in the locker room who don’t want to be naked in front of a male peer. What about their comfort? And their right to not be ogled and not have to see a peer’s penis. Not much different from subway flashers.

It has been well established that girls are not allowed to complain about their feelings of privacy or unease about having males naked with them.

Yes, the feelings of the flasher who wants to force trapped women and girls to see his penis matter much more than the dumb feelings of any girls who might be scared of such a man. We have all been taught that lesson.

Actually nudity is not inherently threatening and so if anyone is “afraid” of a penis or breast they were taught to be so by their parents. If parents are so worried about scared kids then maybe they shouldn’t teach them to be scared of the human body.

Right, the millennia of men killing, raping, and torturing women is just imaginary or something. 🙄🙄

Seldom remembered fact is that men have spent millennia killing, raping, and torturing men too.

We are aware. But we are also not the ones to fix this problem or be forced to be the safe space for men that are scared of men.

An 11 year old is not a man first off. He is just as vulnerable as your 11 year old girl when it comes to predators. I have a 6 year old and there is no chance on gods green earth I am letting him go into a restroom OR changing room solo. I wouldnt let my 6 year old daughter either.

They have the boys father take him. Stop being weird dragging a way too old boy in there.