Mom brings 11 yr. Old son in women's changing room at pool

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not your child, not your business. You have no idea why they made that choice. Parents are doing the best they can. Please leave them alone.


Cool, cool. So me doing the best I can will be telling you to get your tween boy out of the changing room so my tween daughter can feel comfortable changing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not your child, not your business. You have no idea why they made that choice. Parents are doing the best they can. Please leave them alone.


You can disagree about the age that an opposite gender kid should be in the changing room, but "not your child, not your business" is an absolutely braindead response to a situation in a public space that affects other people. We're allowed to have opinions and even rules about what and how people parent.
Anonymous
OP, this is a completely losing position in this day and age of gender nonconformity. Change in a stall if you're uncomfortable.
Anonymous
My 11 year old self would've loved scoping out all the old saggy baggies in the women's changing rooms
Anonymous
This would not bother me in the least.
Anonymous
My local gym/rec center has signs clearly posted stating kids over 6 years old must use the gender appropriate locker room, or use the family locker room.

My 7yo son got lost the first time he walked through the locker room to the pool deck, despite me explaining how to find the pool door. Luckily a male lifeguard was willing to go in and look for him!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a completely losing position in this day and age of gender nonconformity. Change in a stall if you're uncomfortable.


I'm not the OP, but not all locker rooms have stalls.
Several years ago I (a middle aged woman) joined a pool so I could swim laps during the day. The locker room was completely open. No shower stalls or changing stalls, only the toilet stalls were enclosed.
Unfortunately I had to cancel my membership because there were a lot of home schoolers who would go there for swim lessons during the time that I could go, and the moms all brought their sons in the womens locker room. These boys looked to be about 8-12 years old and I was not at all comfortable changing out of my bathing suit in front of them.

Later, I ended up meeting someone who was on the board of that pool and I mentioned the locker room situation to her. She said the locker rooms had been designed and built right after the news broke out about Jerry Sandusky/Penn State, so they wanted to make sure that everything was out in the open and no abuse could take place.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400



These are not young kids.


When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.


Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.


Not to mention the younger girls in the locker room who don’t want to be naked in front of a male peer. What about their comfort? And their right to not be ogled and not have to see a peer’s penis. Not much different from subway flashers.


It has been well established that girls are not allowed to complain about their feelings of privacy or unease about having males naked with them.


Yes, the feelings of the flasher who wants to force trapped women and girls to see his penis matter much more than the dumb feelings of any girls who might be scared of such a man. We have all been taught that lesson.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400



These are not young kids.


When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.


Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.


Not to mention the younger girls in the locker room who don’t want to be naked in front of a male peer. What about their comfort? And their right to not be ogled and not have to see a peer’s penis. Not much different from subway flashers.


It has been well established that girls are not allowed to complain about their feelings of privacy or unease about having males naked with them.


Yes, the feelings of the flasher who wants to force trapped women and girls to see his penis matter much more than the dumb feelings of any girls who might be scared of such a man. We have all been taught that lesson.


Actually nudity is not inherently threatening and so if anyone is “afraid” of a penis or breast they were taught to be so by their parents. If parents are so worried about scared kids then maybe they shouldn’t teach them to be scared of the human body.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400



These are not young kids.


When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.


Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.


He will probably love that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think young kids should be in a locker room alone.

Just google locker room assaults.

https://wjla.com/news/local/woman-alleges-rape-assault-inside-wilson-aquatic-center-locker-room-97400



These are not young kids.


When your 11 yr old is raped in a locker room, lets so how old you think they are.


Well, I hope you’re fine with your 11 year old seeing bare breasts and crotches, then. Because I’m not covering up just because he’s there. You can’t have it both ways.


Not to mention the younger girls in the locker room who don’t want to be naked in front of a male peer. What about their comfort? And their right to not be ogled and not have to see a peer’s penis. Not much different from subway flashers.


It has been well established that girls are not allowed to complain about their feelings of privacy or unease about having males naked with them.


Yes, the feelings of the flasher who wants to force trapped women and girls to see his penis matter much more than the dumb feelings of any girls who might be scared of such a man. We have all been taught that lesson.


Actually nudity is not inherently threatening and so if anyone is “afraid” of a penis or breast they were taught to be so by their parents. If parents are so worried about scared kids then maybe they shouldn’t teach them to be scared of the human body.


Thanks for proving our point. Women and girls need to recenter their trauma and tamp down eons of evolution teaching us how to avoid harm.
Anonymous
What makes you think it’s a boy? And also, all they have to say is that they identify as a girl and then they can be in the women’s changing room.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My local gym/rec center has signs clearly posted stating kids over 6 years old must use the gender appropriate locker room, or use the family locker room.

My 7yo son got lost the first time he walked through the locker room to the pool deck, despite me explaining how to find the pool door. Luckily a male lifeguard was willing to go in and look for him!


I think the question of whether there's a family locker room, and whether there's a route to the deck that doesn't pass through a gendered locker room is an important one. If those things exist, and there are bathrooms that aren't in gendered locker rooms, then I think 6 is a really fair age limit.

But the article isn't clear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What makes you think it’s a boy? And also, all they have to say is that they identify as a girl and then they can be in the women’s changing room.


Because the mother said he was a boy and called him "he". Do you think nobody knows what a boy is anymore?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This would not bother me in the least.


Based on these types of comments, I don’t think most of you have tween and teen daughters. An 11 year old boy should not be in their locker room.
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