What are the best years to stay at home (SAHM)?

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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Tons of us work and drive our kids ourselves. She just uses that as an excuse not to work rather than just saying she doesn’t want to work and I guess her husband is fine with it. But I hate when those types butt into these conversations and try to make it sound like working is “impossible” for them.
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Baby to toddler years 100%.

I quit working when my oldest was born and eventually eased back into work (for myself) as a WFH FT so that I could stay with the kids. This was back in 2009.

By the time the kids entered ES, I was ready to be back at it and had built up enough business to do so. My kids are MS and upper ES now. I couldn't imagine a need to be SAHM at these ages.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Not the pp. Some of our best conversations are in the car. This is where kids share the most. I like to watch my kids play sports.
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We have 4 kids and for each of them I would say grades 4-9. This is when challenges in academics showed up but could still be overcome with parental support and when social hurdles were also the biggest. The middle school years are also when they need the most supervision when using electronics. When I was at work all day I would often barely have time to talk to my kids between sports and clubs before it was time for bed. I work from home now and being present after school has made a big difference.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Not the pp. Some of our best conversations are in the car. This is where kids share the most. I like to watch my kids play sports.


None of that has anything to do with working or not. I do all the driving and I work. I’m home more than my children are - literally.

If people don’t want to work, that’s fine but has absolutely nothing to do with being present for teens.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Tons of us work and drive our kids ourselves. She just uses that as an excuse not to work rather than just saying she doesn’t want to work and I guess her husband is fine with it. But I hate when those types butt into these conversations and try to make it sound like working is “impossible” for them.


It's a message board.
On a thread about SAHM's and their experience.
In what way is a SAHM giving her perspective "butting in?"
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Not the pp. Some of our best conversations are in the car. This is where kids share the most. I like to watch my kids play sports.


None of that has anything to do with working or not. I do all the driving and I work. I’m home more than my children are - literally.

If people don’t want to work, that’s fine but has absolutely nothing to do with being present for teens.

DP - agreed (and I work FT and do most of the driving). I’m so tired of the insistence that working precludes the ability to provide needed support for tweens/teens. It doesn’t.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Not the pp. Some of our best conversations are in the car. This is where kids share the most. I like to watch my kids play sports.


None of that has anything to do with working or not. I do all the driving and I work. I’m home more than my children are - literally.

If people don’t want to work, that’s fine but has absolutely nothing to do with being present for teens.


But that was a response to somebody who said that somebody just needed to find somebody else to drive around her kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Tons of us work and drive our kids ourselves. She just uses that as an excuse not to work rather than just saying she doesn’t want to work and I guess her husband is fine with it. But I hate when those types butt into these conversations and try to make it sound like working is “impossible” for them.


It's a message board.
On a thread about SAHM's and their experience.
In what way is a SAHM giving her perspective "butting in?"


It’s a thread about a SAHM who wants to do it for a finite period of time. These women are popping to say they have never worked and never will. Their opinion is not really relevant here. Also, after school driving is not in conflict with working (as many of us have attested) so their point is also not rational.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Tons of us work and drive our kids ourselves. She just uses that as an excuse not to work rather than just saying she doesn’t want to work and I guess her husband is fine with it. But I hate when those types butt into these conversations and try to make it sound like working is “impossible” for them.


It's a message board.
On a thread about SAHM's and their experience.
In what way is a SAHM giving her perspective "butting in?"


It’s a thread about a SAHM who wants to do it for a finite period of time. These women are popping to say they have never worked and never will. Their opinion is not really relevant here. Also, after school driving is not in conflict with working (as many of us have attested) so their point is also not rational.


I have not seen the bolded written in this thread at all. Can you please help me find it? Thanks!

And I would say that someone who has been a SAHM of all ages actually has the MOST relevant opinion for the question posed.
You really think that if someone says, "which is best: A, B, or C?" that the person who has only experienced "A" but not B or C has the most relevant opinion? Please explain that logic.

After school driving might not be in conflict with YOUR job, or the jobs of many posters here. It WOULD be in conflict with a parent who works 12 hour shifts as a police officer, or 24 hour shifts as a paramedic, or 6 month deployments as a military member.
It can also be a conflic for people that work in hospitals, in the entertainment industry, in schools, and many other places. You have a very limited world view if you truly believe that everyone else's experience is exactly like yours.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Not the pp. Some of our best conversations are in the car. This is where kids share the most. I like to watch my kids play sports.


None of that has anything to do with working or not. I do all the driving and I work. I’m home more than my children are - literally.

If people don’t want to work, that’s fine but has absolutely nothing to do with being present for teens.

DP - agreed (and I work FT and do most of the driving). I’m so tired of the insistence that working precludes the ability to provide needed support for tweens/teens. It doesn’t.


I haven’t read all the comments carefully, but I don’t think anybody is actually saying that’s universally true. It is in my case (unless you count the very low-paid part time work I do 10 hours a week) because of a variety of circumstances that I am sure don’t apply to you.

When somebody says that teens need more support and time than we assume they do, that doesn’t mean they need more support than you are giving yours. It sounds like youre giving your teens all they need and then some. But many people think that once kids are in high school, they can sort of be put out to pasture and basically raise themselves. That’s the idea people are pushing back on.

And I’m not the PP who mentioned driving, but I do get frustrated when people insist I can get a job, and the idea of the kids needing schlepping is a mere excuse. People who say this typically established a decent career before said schlepping was necessary. I did not (I’m the poster who has said I wished I had worked when the kids were little). My job prospects are not the same as yours. There are many many reasons I am still a SAHM and yes, driving logistics are one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to this question should be based only on what's best for the children, not the parents. But if you read all the comments you will see that only a small percentage address the issue from that point of view. It's sad.



Why shouldn't what works for the parents matter? With kids now in and about to go to college I can see that in our family and among friends, families had a lot of different arrangements -- full time daycare, SAHP, nannies, nanny share, grandparent care, etc. During MS-HS some continued to have a SAHP, others had flexible jobs, others kept on the nanny for all that afternoon driving. I really don't see a notable difference in the kids based on how parents chose to balance work and home. Some kids are doing great. Some kids have problems. But none of that seems aligned with when/if their parents were at home. Only correlation is that kids with significant health issues or other special needs, not surprisingly, tended to have SAHP longer or permanently. In that case, yes, the child's needs came first regardless of the parent's career desires.

I was at home for the birth-younger in K years (7 years total) and I loved that time. It was the way DH and I wanted to live our life. That doesn't mean it's the right thing for everyone or that it was the absolute best thing for my kids. I have no idea, maybe they'd have thrived in a full time daycare. But I personally would not have so I lived the life I wanted and hopefully did a good job raising my kids in that way.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Tons of us work and drive our kids ourselves. She just uses that as an excuse not to work rather than just saying she doesn’t want to work and I guess her husband is fine with it. But I hate when those types butt into these conversations and try to make it sound like working is “impossible” for them.


I think all this driving talk came from me. I was asking about Ubers for kids. My oldest is 14 but I also have a kindergartner.
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Anonymous wrote:Most parents underestimate how much care, guidance and supervision teens need.


They actually don’t need that much compared to younger children. It’s just that over parenting has become the norm now, to the detriment of the well being of teenagers and the process of trying to become independent adults one day.


There is a post today on this forum from someone who wants to know if their 14 year old can take Uber. Think about that. A parent wanting to put their underage child in a car with a stranger so the stranger can drive off with them.


That was my post. I am a SAHM of 3 kids wanting to go back to work. While it is somewhat easier to put my younger kids in all day camp, my future freshman in high school will need a ride to fall sports that starts in late July. I don’t know what time these sports will be but I know it is not all day and definitely won’t line up with my future potential work schedule.

My youngest is 6 and oldest is 14. I will have 3 kids in elementary, middle and high school this fall. Right now I am childfree 9-2.

My husband has a very demanding and also high paying career. I would like to go back to work and I feel if I don’t go back now, I will never go back.


Good for you. There’s never a great time to go back to work and if you want to do so then you have to make it happen. Not having a job because of an extracurricular activity is nuts and that’s why you’re looking for a solution like Uber. Can you imagine a conversation 20 years from now where your child asks why you didn’t work and your response is “because you had soccer every Monday”?


HS sports on never just on Monday. It will be 5 days per week at minimum.


The point went over your head. Whether it’s 1 day or 7 days doesn’t matter. Do you really want to not have a job because of your child’s sport that they will likely never plan again after HS? Are there men out there saying they can’t hold a job because their child plays a HS sport? I highly doubt it.


It didn't go over my head.
And actually, yeah...I am fine with not having a job so my kids can participate in and enjoy sports, music, and other activities.
There are people with different priorities than you. if you really "doubt" that, you should expand your horizons a bit.


You don’t have to be unemployed for your kids to do these things. You just need someone to drive your kids there.

It’s fine to just say you don’t want to have a job. That actually makes sense.


No, PP doesn’t want a job badly enough that she wants somebody else to drive around her kids.

I don’t understand why people twist themselves in knots to prove that somebody doesn’t mean what they said.


Tons of us work and drive our kids ourselves. She just uses that as an excuse not to work rather than just saying she doesn’t want to work and I guess her husband is fine with it. But I hate when those types butt into these conversations and try to make it sound like working is “impossible” for them.


I think all this driving talk came from me. I was asking about Ubers for kids. My oldest is 14 but I also have a kindergartner.


Yes, but you asked about Ubers on a different thread. I'm the one that mentioned your thread here, so it's my fault!
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to be a SAHM for some portion of my kids’ childhood, probably 5-10 years total. We have two toddlers now and a third on the way. Both spouses work full time. Issues of re-entering the workforce aside, for those of you who have done it, what years are best for staying at home? Would you recommend staying home to savor the infant years with the last baby or wait for the middle school years when pre-teens/teens might need more parental support? Or elementary school years when there are more opportunities to volunteer at school and be involved with play/activities? Or other?


I think this is a question that is impossible to answer, especially when it comes to older kids. So much of that will depend on the specific personalities and needs of those kids when they get to that stage.

Choosing to stay home with babies-preschool is the most common answer here because that has the most direct payoff -- reduced childcare costs, the needs of babies and small children and quite obvious, and since they need to go to bed early the clash between parent commutes and respecting sleep needs can lead to feeling you don't have enough time with them at an age when they really want to be with you and you really want that time with them.

I was at home until my kids were in early ES. At one point I was doing well getting freelance work and figured I could make that my regular job so I'd have that time to be the volunteering-at-school, driving to activities mom. Then my kids started ES and I learned we happened to be at a school that prided itself on being super supportive of working parents (long-time principal was a single mom). There was little need or request for volunteers, parents were rarely asked to come to anything during the school day. Most kids went to extended day and once my son figured that out he wanted to be there too and said it was "not fair" that I didn't work. So, that made it really easy for me to decide to go back to work FT. If we happened to have been in a very SAHP-oriented school I might still be focused on freelancing.

Then you get into MS and HS and whether you are "needed" as a physical presence depends so much on what your kids are going through balanced with how flexible your jobs are. Are they having social or academic problems, do they need to get to tutors or therapies, or are they doing great at school but want to dedicate their time to an extracurricular that will require a dedicated chauffer to make it happen. If you or spouse have a flexible or WAH job, maybe this requires little adjustment. Maybe you live close to the HS so they don't have to rely on you for sports-practice transportation. Or it's a long commute with no bus and you have inflexible jobs. Those later years are a lot harder to predict vs. the basic needs of a baby and the parent's desire to be the one there for the cuddles.
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