What are the best years to stay at home (SAHM)?

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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. I’m not sure if it is a strategy but I think busy kids tend to stay out of trouble. My kids play sports, play an instrument, we travel, I help organize social gatherings since none of my kids can drive.

Starting in middle school, kids get into trouble with vaping and drugs. I don’t want my kids to do drugs as their extracurricular activities.

That's very, very sad. All I wanted to do at those ages was run around with my neighborhood friends and be a kid. I don't think busy equals better behaved. I'd kids want to do drugs/drink they will no matter what. Also, busy kids don't learn how to entertain themselves without causing trouble or excessive screen time.

So what does lead to vaping and drug use with teens? I think back to OP’s question, there could be an argument that being home during the middle school years would allow you to be more involved and have more knowledge as to what they are doing and curb the drug use if it starts.

But that’s what we are saying and you are not hearing. I am home when my kids are home. And I work. And same with all my friends. My husband works too and he’s home most days too. We are on it, don’t you worry.

I am the pp who said that busy kids stay out of trouble. I did not mention anything about working parents. My oldest is in middle school and the vast majority of his friends’ parents work.

My child hangs out with the high achieving crowd. Most of his friends seem to be very good at something whether it be orchestra, band, ice hockey, tennis, basketball, baseball or swimming. If you are a competitive gymnast or ice hockey player, you are going to practice 5+ times per week and practice times don’t cater to working schedules like a person posted above. Anyone with a teen who does any sport or activity at a competitive level knows they need to be driven.

I have kids who have done science Olympiad at 2:30, sports practice at 4, swim practice at 10am during summers, tennis matches at 9:30am or 2:00pm. Of course my kids could not do these activities but activities absolutely do not cater to working parents’ schedules.

There are 15 families whose children live in our neighborhood and take the same bus our kids do. We all have elementary school kids, from grades 1-5. Two families have children who aren't yet in K. In 14 of the 15 families, both parents work full-time. In only one of the families does only the husband work, although the mom used to have her own business but sold it when they moved here for his work so she is working a bit now to try to get another shop up and running.

Our kids do all the things you mentioned above and then some. Point is, our kids all do sports, music, theater, academics, etc. Their schedules are all over the place and their activities are all over the map. The parents are lawyers, doctors, military, HR, IT, teacher, engineers, financial advisors, executives, veterinarians, and orthodontists/dentists. We all make it work. Some have nannies. Some have part-time sitters. Have some local family. Some work at home. Some are in the office every day. Some are deployed for extended periods of time.

My point is that of course not all activities are going to cater to working families' scheduled. Some will, but many will not (and most in summer time will not, like camps from 9-1). Between flexible work schedules, help from friends, hired help, family, and good planning, all of us have kids going all over the place all the time. That's 15 families with varying set ups and issues all making it work with two working parents. Of course we're all in the same socio-economic bracket because we all live near each other, and we're all UMC, which of course helps immensely when it comes to being able to throw money at certain problems. But I have to say I do roll my eyes at the SAHMs whose husbands make seven figures who say "oh I just can't work because there's so many places I have to shuttle my school-aged kids." Just acknowledge that you don't want to work. That's fine. But stop acting like so many of us don't make it happen without losing our minds.

I just said most of my oldest kid’s friends’ parents work. My youngest is in kindergarten. Several of my kindergartener’s friends from preschool and current class don’t work.

I don’t really care about someone’s working status. Maybe it is because DH is so successful. I held senior positions before I stopped working. Half my friends work. Half don’t. Some stayed home and went back to work. I worked when my older kids were younger and then stayed home when I had my youngest. Just do what is right for your family.

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Anonymous wrote:0-5 (or until school starts) is the best bang for your buck as the kids are actually home all day.

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So to have 6 hours of free time / me time every day while the kids are at school while the other parent works full time to take on 100% of all financial responsibilities of having children isn't an example I would set for my kids nor one that would create an equal marriage.

So I have been with my husband for 24 years and married for 15. As a SAHM let me tell you I do not have 6 hrs free time/me time every day. I get the kids off to school at 9:15 (late bell school) and it’s a race to do my part time job, clean up after breakfast, do all the housework be it laundry, Cleaning, organizing. Do our food planning, be it shopping prep or cooking, organize kids sports and activities and all kid related things (kids are insanely busy and need extra support that only I can provide), I manage important items for my elderly parents and manage our rental properties, get in a quick home improvement project or help at the kids school and they are home and we are ferrying them to activities. My husband helps with child care and housework as he is able to always but he also gets to go to every work dinner and event without worrying about coordinating childcare. With my small contribution and his rising salary we are in the high six figures and there is real peace and stability in our home. Not sure I see that as much in the two parent full time work out of the home scenarios. It gets crazy.

Guessing you don’t know many couples that both have cushy WFH jobs. Our neighborhood is full of them and nothing is remotely “crazy.”

You have to admit that everyone having WFH jobs is a relatively new development. A lot of people started SAH before this was widely available.

Keep those excuses coming!

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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. I’m not sure if it is a strategy but I think busy kids tend to stay out of trouble. My kids play sports, play an instrument, we travel, I help organize social gatherings since none of my kids can drive.

Starting in middle school, kids get into trouble with vaping and drugs. I don’t want my kids to do drugs as their extracurricular activities.

That's very, very sad. All I wanted to do at those ages was run around with my neighborhood friends and be a kid. I don't think busy equals better behaved. I'd kids want to do drugs/drink they will no matter what. Also, busy kids don't learn how to entertain themselves without causing trouble or excessive screen time.

So what does lead to vaping and drug use with teens? I think back to OP’s question, there could be an argument that being home during the middle school years would allow you to be more involved and have more knowledge as to what they are doing and curb the drug use if it starts.

But that’s what we are saying and you are not hearing. I am home when my kids are home. And I work. And same with all my friends. My husband works too and he’s home most days too. We are on it, don’t you worry.

I am the pp who said that busy kids stay out of trouble. I did not mention anything about working parents. My oldest is in middle school and the vast majority of his friends’ parents work.

My child hangs out with the high achieving crowd. Most of his friends seem to be very good at something whether it be orchestra, band, ice hockey, tennis, basketball, baseball or swimming. If you are a competitive gymnast or ice hockey player, you are going to practice 5+ times per week and practice times don’t cater to working schedules like a person posted above. Anyone with a teen who does any sport or activity at a competitive level knows they need to be driven.

I have kids who have done science Olympiad at 2:30, sports practice at 4, swim practice at 10am during summers, tennis matches at 9:30am or 2:00pm. Of course my kids could not do these activities but activities absolutely do not cater to working parents’ schedules.

There are 15 families whose children live in our neighborhood and take the same bus our kids do. We all have elementary school kids, from grades 1-5. Two families have children who aren't yet in K. In 14 of the 15 families, both parents work full-time. In only one of the families does only the husband work, although the mom used to have her own business but sold it when they moved here for his work so she is working a bit now to try to get another shop up and running.

Our kids do all the things you mentioned above and then some. Point is, our kids all do sports, music, theater, academics, etc. Their schedules are all over the place and their activities are all over the map. The parents are lawyers, doctors, military, HR, IT, teacher, engineers, financial advisors, executives, veterinarians, and orthodontists/dentists. We all make it work. Some have nannies. Some have part-time sitters. Have some local family. Some work at home. Some are in the office every day. Some are deployed for extended periods of time.

My point is that of course not all activities are going to cater to working families' scheduled. Some will, but many will not (and most in summer time will not, like camps from 9-1). Between flexible work schedules, help from friends, hired help, family, and good planning, all of us have kids going all over the place all the time. That's 15 families with varying set ups and issues all making it work with two working parents. Of course we're all in the same socio-economic bracket because we all live near each other, and we're all UMC, which of course helps immensely when it comes to being able to throw money at certain problems. But I have to say I do roll my eyes at the SAHMs whose husbands make seven figures who say "oh I just can't work because there's so many places I have to shuttle my school-aged kids." Just acknowledge that you don't want to work. That's fine. But stop acting like so many of us don't make it happen without losing our minds.

I think families differ in what standards of parenting, marriage, household, socializing, financial success, security, extended family, social mobility, education and health they strive for. In the end, we all only have 24 hours in the day.

I am a sahm of ACs. DH does not make 7 figures. But, in his DCUM MC salary (and with a bit of luck and planning) we have done very well. I have seen many seasons of parenting and married life. I can look back and feel pretty good about what we have achieved in our personal life and what DH has achieved professionally. Remaining in my job would have been a huge mistake and my DH is incredibly happy that I agreed to stay at home. I have two masters and multiple certifications. I am glad that my education and time was used in being a guide to my kids, instead of working for corporate America.

No. I do not want to work if I do not need the money. My being employed would mean that some person who needs the job is unemployed.

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Anonymous wrote:0-5 (or until school starts) is the best bang for your buck as the kids are actually home all day.

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So to have 6 hours of free time / me time every day while the kids are at school while the other parent works full time to take on 100% of all financial responsibilities of having children isn't an example I would set for my kids nor one that would create an equal marriage.

So I have been with my husband for 24 years and married for 15. As a SAHM let me tell you I do not have 6 hrs free time/me time every day. I get the kids off to school at 9:15 (late bell school) and it’s a race to do my part time job, clean up after breakfast, do all the housework be it laundry, Cleaning, organizing. Do our food planning, be it shopping prep or cooking, organize kids sports and activities and all kid related things (kids are insanely busy and need extra support that only I can provide), I manage important items for my elderly parents and manage our rental properties, get in a quick home improvement project or help at the kids school and they are home and we are ferrying them to activities. My husband helps with child care and housework as he is able to always but he also gets to go to every work dinner and event without worrying about coordinating childcare. With my small contribution and his rising salary we are in the high six figures and there is real peace and stability in our home. Not sure I see that as much in the two parent full time work out of the home scenarios. It gets crazy.

Sure, you successfully fill your day with activities that make you busy. Those of us who work have the whole family clean up after breakfast by actually having people put their dishes in the dishwasher when they're done eating, we do laundry in the morning before work and in the evenings after work and on the weekends or outsource it, we have cleaners or the family chips in and does cleaning throughout the week, we keep things organized as we go or take some time when we have a minute to dedicate it to a particular task, we do food planning as a family after dinner or we do it while on a conference call or sitting in traffic, we shop on our way home from work or place an order during lunch and have it delivered when we're at home, we cook as a family or plan accordingly by having easier meals during the week and making some things ahead on the weekends, we organize kids sports and activities and all kid-related things in the evenings or while on calls or while with our children, we manage items for our elderly parents during the day or on the weekends, we also manage our rental properties at the same time, and somehow we manage to do home improvements tasks when we're at gome.

I get it, you want to say you're so busy, but I just can't help but laugh and wonder what you think families with two working parents do. We literally do everything you do, we just manage to also work while doing it.

NP. One big benefit of being a SAHM is that the family doesn’t have to spend weekends and after work ours doing errands. Obviously a ton of people make it work and I’m glad you are happy with your decisions but your life sounds stressful and IMO shouldn’t be the default.

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I truly feel sorry for women whose husbands are SO preoccupied with work that they literally cannot imagine any scenario where a family could function properly with two working parents and not be unhappy or stressed. A 7 figure income is not worth that level of absenteeism to me. I got married to have a partner.

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MS-HS years.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:0-5 (or until school starts) is the best bang for your buck as the kids are actually home all day.

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So to have 6 hours of free time / me time every day while the kids are at school while the other parent works full time to take on 100% of all financial responsibilities of having children isn't an example I would set for my kids nor one that would create an equal marriage.

So I have been with my husband for 24 years and married for 15. As a SAHM let me tell you I do not have 6 hrs free time/me time every day. I get the kids off to school at 9:15 (late bell school) and it’s a race to do my part time job, clean up after breakfast, do all the housework be it laundry, Cleaning, organizing. Do our food planning, be it shopping prep or cooking, organize kids sports and activities and all kid related things (kids are insanely busy and need extra support that only I can provide), I manage important items for my elderly parents and manage our rental properties, get in a quick home improvement project or help at the kids school and they are home and we are ferrying them to activities. My husband helps with child care and housework as he is able to always but he also gets to go to every work dinner and event without worrying about coordinating childcare. With my small contribution and his rising salary we are in the high six figures and there is real peace and stability in our home. Not sure I see that as much in the two parent full time work out of the home scenarios. It gets crazy.

Sure, you successfully fill your day with activities that make you busy. Those of us who work have the whole family clean up after breakfast by actually having people put their dishes in the dishwasher when they're done eating, we do laundry in the morning before work and in the evenings after work and on the weekends or outsource it, we have cleaners or the family chips in and does cleaning throughout the week, we keep things organized as we go or take some time when we have a minute to dedicate it to a particular task, we do food planning as a family after dinner or we do it while on a conference call or sitting in traffic, we shop on our way home from work or place an order during lunch and have it delivered when we're at home, we cook as a family or plan accordingly by having easier meals during the week and making some things ahead on the weekends, we organize kids sports and activities and all kid-related things in the evenings or while on calls or while with our children, we manage items for our elderly parents during the day or on the weekends, we also manage our rental properties at the same time, and somehow we manage to do home improvements tasks when we're at gome.

I get it, you want to say you're so busy, but I just can't help but laugh and wonder what you think families with two working parents do. We literally do everything you do, we just manage to also work while doing it.

NP. One big benefit of being a SAHM is that the family doesn’t have to spend weekends and after work ours doing errands. Obviously a ton of people make it work and I’m glad you are happy with your decisions but your life sounds stressful and IMO shouldn’t be the default.

DP here. It’s not stressful. We run errands during the workday easily. I think your imagination is running away with you.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly feel sorry for women whose husbands are SO preoccupied with work that they literally cannot imagine any scenario where a family could function properly with two working parents and not be unhappy or stressed. A 7 figure income is not worth that level of absenteeism to me. I got married to have a partner.

I can imagine one, just not for our particular situation. And my husband isn’t an absentee husband or partner, just an absentee (or more like lackadaisical) driver, meal planner, IEP meeting participant, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp again. I’m not sure if it is a strategy but I think busy kids tend to stay out of trouble. My kids play sports, play an instrument, we travel, I help organize social gatherings since none of my kids can drive.

Starting in middle school, kids get into trouble with vaping and drugs. I don’t want my kids to do drugs as their extracurricular activities.

That's very, very sad. All I wanted to do at those ages was run around with my neighborhood friends and be a kid. I don't think busy equals better behaved. I'd kids want to do drugs/drink they will no matter what. Also, busy kids don't learn how to entertain themselves without causing trouble or excessive screen time.

So what does lead to vaping and drug use with teens? I think back to OP’s question, there could be an argument that being home during the middle school years would allow you to be more involved and have more knowledge as to what they are doing and curb the drug use if it starts.

But that’s what we are saying and you are not hearing. I am home when my kids are home. And I work. And same with all my friends. My husband works too and he’s home most days too. We are on it, don’t you worry.

I am the pp who said that busy kids stay out of trouble. I did not mention anything about working parents. My oldest is in middle school and the vast majority of his friends’ parents work.

My child hangs out with the high achieving crowd. Most of his friends seem to be very good at something whether it be orchestra, band, ice hockey, tennis, basketball, baseball or swimming. If you are a competitive gymnast or ice hockey player, you are going to practice 5+ times per week and practice times don’t cater to working schedules like a person posted above. Anyone with a teen who does any sport or activity at a competitive level knows they need to be driven.

I have kids who have done science Olympiad at 2:30, sports practice at 4, swim practice at 10am during summers, tennis matches at 9:30am or 2:00pm. Of course my kids could not do these activities but activities absolutely do not cater to working parents’ schedules.

There are 15 families whose children live in our neighborhood and take the same bus our kids do. We all have elementary school kids, from grades 1-5. Two families have children who aren't yet in K. In 14 of the 15 families, both parents work full-time. In only one of the families does only the husband work, although the mom used to have her own business but sold it when they moved here for his work so she is working a bit now to try to get another shop up and running.

Our kids do all the things you mentioned above and then some. Point is, our kids all do sports, music, theater, academics, etc. Their schedules are all over the place and their activities are all over the map. The parents are lawyers, doctors, military, HR, IT, teacher, engineers, financial advisors, executives, veterinarians, and orthodontists/dentists. We all make it work. Some have nannies. Some have part-time sitters. Have some local family. Some work at home. Some are in the office every day. Some are deployed for extended periods of time.

My point is that of course not all activities are going to cater to working families' scheduled. Some will, but many will not (and most in summer time will not, like camps from 9-1). Between flexible work schedules, help from friends, hired help, family, and good planning, all of us have kids going all over the place all the time. That's 15 families with varying set ups and issues all making it work with two working parents. Of course we're all in the same socio-economic bracket because we all live near each other, and we're all UMC, which of course helps immensely when it comes to being able to throw money at certain problems. But I have to say I do roll my eyes at the SAHMs whose husbands make seven figures who say "oh I just can't work because there's so many places I have to shuttle my school-aged kids." Just acknowledge that you don't want to work. That's fine. But stop acting like so many of us don't make it happen without losing our minds.

Uh huh. None of that matters. How many of the families have children in middle school and high school (or older?) I'm guessing none, or you would have mentioned it.

You are claiming to be an expert on raising teenagers and how to organize teen schedules, when you have no experience with it. So arrogant!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:0-5 (or until school starts) is the best bang for your buck as the kids are actually home all day.

…

So to have 6 hours of free time / me time every day while the kids are at school while the other parent works full time to take on 100% of all financial responsibilities of having children isn't an example I would set for my kids nor one that would create an equal marriage.

So I have been with my husband for 24 years and married for 15. As a SAHM let me tell you I do not have 6 hrs free time/me time every day. I get the kids off to school at 9:15 (late bell school) and it’s a race to do my part time job, clean up after breakfast, do all the housework be it laundry, Cleaning, organizing. Do our food planning, be it shopping prep or cooking, organize kids sports and activities and all kid related things (kids are insanely busy and need extra support that only I can provide), I manage important items for my elderly parents and manage our rental properties, get in a quick home improvement project or help at the kids school and they are home and we are ferrying them to activities. My husband helps with child care and housework as he is able to always but he also gets to go to every work dinner and event without worrying about coordinating childcare. With my small contribution and his rising salary we are in the high six figures and there is real peace and stability in our home. Not sure I see that as much in the two parent full time work out of the home scenarios. It gets crazy.

Sure, you successfully fill your day with activities that make you busy. Those of us who work have the whole family clean up after breakfast by actually having people put their dishes in the dishwasher when they're done eating, we do laundry in the morning before work and in the evenings after work and on the weekends or outsource it, we have cleaners or the family chips in and does cleaning throughout the week, we keep things organized as we go or take some time when we have a minute to dedicate it to a particular task, we do food planning as a family after dinner or we do it while on a conference call or sitting in traffic, we shop on our way home from work or place an order during lunch and have it delivered when we're at home, we cook as a family or plan accordingly by having easier meals during the week and making some things ahead on the weekends, we organize kids sports and activities and all kid-related things in the evenings or while on calls or while with our children, we manage items for our elderly parents during the day or on the weekends, we also manage our rental properties at the same time, and somehow we manage to do home improvements tasks when we're at gome.

I get it, you want to say you're so busy, but I just can't help but laugh and wonder what you think families with two working parents do. We literally do everything you do, we just manage to also work while doing it.

NP. One big benefit of being a SAHM is that the family doesn’t have to spend weekends and after work ours doing errands. Obviously a ton of people make it work and I’m glad you are happy with your decisions but your life sounds stressful and IMO shouldn’t be the default.

DP here. It’s not stressful. We run errands during the workday easily. I think your imagination is running away with you.

A full-time job that lets me run errands during the workday indeed exists only in my imagination. But it seems like a lot of posters here cannot imagine a job beyond the decently flexible, well-paying, white collar UMC jobs they have.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly feel sorry for women whose husbands are SO preoccupied with work that they literally cannot imagine any scenario where a family could function properly with two working parents and not be unhappy or stressed. A 7 figure income is not worth that level of absenteeism to me. I got married to have a partner.

This is depressing. I’m the previous poster, above; my husband misses two dinners a week, big deal, he’s home to kiss our kids at bedtime. The rest of the time he works from home, coordinates so many family things, including afternoon carpools and more. We both have social lives away from the family too plus we have lunch together at home a few times a week or have day dates going out for lunch or working out. It’s a great life with a true partner and I would not have that if I was a work drone like you getting my validation from my external job instead of my intrinsic value to my family . You’ve been fooled I to thinking your super essential world saving job helps validate your education and your existence just to keep you chained to 9-5, if you had the money you’d quit in a heartbeat.

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The truth is, with work from home, flex schedules, part time, professions where people don't do 9-5 or summers like teaching and some doctors/nurses, etc. I have NO earthly idea whose parents work full time, from home, etc. for the most part, unless they are the ones where I've seen both parents in suits before or I've talked to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly feel sorry for women whose husbands are SO preoccupied with work that they literally cannot imagine any scenario where a family could function properly with two working parents and not be unhappy or stressed. A 7 figure income is not worth that level of absenteeism to me. I got married to have a partner.

This may blow your mind but there are some families where both parents don’t have to work. We live in an area where many people cashed out of companies and are retired.

Yes, my DH earns a few million per year but he doesn’t have to work. I certainly don’t have to work. Our investments have done so well. While I don’t technically have a job, I manage our investments and I “earn” more than I would from any flexible WFH job.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:0-5 (or until school starts) is the best bang for your buck as the kids are actually home all day.

…

So to have 6 hours of free time / me time every day while the kids are at school while the other parent works full time to take on 100% of all financial responsibilities of having children isn't an example I would set for my kids nor one that would create an equal marriage.

So I have been with my husband for 24 years and married for 15. As a SAHM let me tell you I do not have 6 hrs free time/me time every day. I get the kids off to school at 9:15 (late bell school) and it’s a race to do my part time job, clean up after breakfast, do all the housework be it laundry, Cleaning, organizing. Do our food planning, be it shopping prep or cooking, organize kids sports and activities and all kid related things (kids are insanely busy and need extra support that only I can provide), I manage important items for my elderly parents and manage our rental properties, get in a quick home improvement project or help at the kids school and they are home and we are ferrying them to activities. My husband helps with child care and housework as he is able to always but he also gets to go to every work dinner and event without worrying about coordinating childcare. With my small contribution and his rising salary we are in the high six figures and there is real peace and stability in our home. Not sure I see that as much in the two parent full time work out of the home scenarios. It gets crazy.

Sure, you successfully fill your day with activities that make you busy. Those of us who work have the whole family clean up after breakfast by actually having people put their dishes in the dishwasher when they're done eating, we do laundry in the morning before work and in the evenings after work and on the weekends or outsource it, we have cleaners or the family chips in and does cleaning throughout the week, we keep things organized as we go or take some time when we have a minute to dedicate it to a particular task, we do food planning as a family after dinner or we do it while on a conference call or sitting in traffic, we shop on our way home from work or place an order during lunch and have it delivered when we're at home, we cook as a family or plan accordingly by having easier meals during the week and making some things ahead on the weekends, we organize kids sports and activities and all kid-related things in the evenings or while on calls or while with our children, we manage items for our elderly parents during the day or on the weekends, we also manage our rental properties at the same time, and somehow we manage to do home improvements tasks when we're at gome.

I get it, you want to say you're so busy, but I just can't help but laugh and wonder what you think families with two working parents do. We literally do everything you do, we just manage to also work while doing it.

NP. One big benefit of being a SAHM is that the family doesn’t have to spend weekends and after work ours doing errands. Obviously a ton of people make it work and I’m glad you are happy with your decisions but your life sounds stressful and IMO shouldn’t be the default.

DP here. It’s not stressful. We run errands during the workday easily. I think your imagination is running away with you.

A full-time job that lets me run errands during the workday indeed exists only in my imagination. But it seems like a lot of posters here cannot imagine a job beyond the decently flexible, well-paying, white collar UMC jobs they have.

I have a decently flexible, well-paying, white collar UMC job and I still can’t run errands regularly during the workday. Maybe Fridays, but not every week. If you are able to do that then you are basically working a PT job.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly feel sorry for women whose husbands are SO preoccupied with work that they literally cannot imagine any scenario where a family could function properly with two working parents and not be unhappy or stressed. A 7 figure income is not worth that level of absenteeism to me. I got married to have a partner.

This may blow your mind but there are some families where both parents don’t have to work. We live in an area where many people cashed out of companies and are retired.

Yes, my DH earns a few million per year but he doesn’t have to work. I certainly don’t have to work. Our investments have done so well. While I don’t technically have a job, I manage our investments and I “earn” more than I would from any flexible WFH job.

Lol, you’re so happy with your life, you spend it on DCUM telling people how rich you are 😂