And why are my Dem reps not standing up to Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

I'm not a republican. I see the red team blue team stuff for what it is. This isn't football. Both parties are failing the average American because they are beholden to their large donors. It's rich vs poor and has been for a long time. Both parties represent the interests of the rich. And I don't mean dcum rich.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Well you already blew it. It's now year ten of the Trump era, because your efforts to "protect the country and the citizens from a con man" were so ham-handed and undemocratic and gross. You tried everything to "protect the country," and the country said, "No thanks, we prefer Trump." They know him pretty well by now, con-man tendencies and all, and they still chose him over you.

You guys, led by Trump, stormed Congress and tried to assassinate the Vice President.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

I'm not a republican. I see the red team blue team stuff for what it is. This isn't football. Both parties are failing the average American because they are beholden to their large donors. It's rich vs poor and has been for a long time. Both parties represent the interests of the rich. And I don't mean dcum rich.

Shouldn't you be in class?

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

"People wish for a recession so people can understand how harmful Trump is." Ick. Everything has been about Trump every day for the past 10 years. People know him and the objections to him. And they still prefer him to Democrats, as evidenced by the election and by current approval ratings, which have plummetted for Democratic leaders even SINCE the election.

Democrats need better policies and better results. Wishing for the entire country to suffer "so people can understand" is gross. You've had many chances to make your case for the American people, and they didn't find it compelling. Letting in all those illegal immigrants was a big mistake, and voters kicked you out for doing it.

Now Democrats keep praying for stock market collapse, recession, no jobs for college graduates, etc., "so people can understand." It's sociopathic. Democrats sound like an evil mother wanting her children to be punished.

And unfortunately, this is such bad politics that Democrats will be punished AGAIN at the ballot box next time. The Republican attack ads write themselves. Lots of quotable quotes by Democrats out there "fighting" for tenure for bureaucrats and unlimited deficit spending, while wishing for private-sector taxpayers to suffer economicially, not just from all the wasted taxes, but from a hoped-for economic collapse.

We need to healthy parties, both with policies voters actually want.

But the Democrats refuse to listen to voter feedback. It's The Party's way or the highway. The peons WILL have men on their girls' sports team, they WILL have more third-world immigrants, they WILL pay for every pet government program, and if they don't like it, they should SUFFER!

If Democrats keep this up, there really WILL be no checks on Republican power, because the Democratic Party won't be relevant anymore. Get it together. Ask the voters what they want, and give it to them. No-one cares if a straight white politician wants to FEEL holy for bringing in sacred illegal third-worlders. They want leaders who deliver what the voters want.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

I'm not a republican. I see the red team blue team stuff for what it is. This isn't football. Both parties are failing the average American because they are beholden to their large donors. It's rich vs poor and has been for a long time. Both parties represent the interests of the rich. And I don't mean dcum rich.

Shouldn't you be in class?

Funny. I have the morning off. Care to respond to what I said? Or you can't, so now you want to attack me?

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DP. You're not listening to voters right now. If we had an election today, Trump would lose.

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Anonymous wrote:So far the Democrats in Congress have acted as a unit. They've fought against everything Trump is trying to do. They've fought against audits and transparency, they've fought against cost-savings in government, they've fought against fraud reduction in government, and they've fought against border control. And they've fought FOR men in girls' sports.

Polls show that voter approval of the Democratic Party is dropping fast. Democrats are in a worse position than they were in back in November.

Four years of unpopular obstructionism will put Democratic re-election candidates in a terrible position. They need some actual achievements to point to, not just obstructionism. And the only achievements available will be bipartisan ones.

Whichever Democrats defect first and start working with Trump to pass popular parts of his agenda will be best positioned to hold onto their seats.

Exactly what are the popular parts of his agenda for Democrats?

None of his agenda is popular with hyperpartisan powerful Democrats like us. We're outraged that the Republican Party is even allowed to exist, and it's absolutely intolerable that was allowed to beat us, take office, etc.

But much of his agenda IS popular with independents, flyover state middle and working class Dems, soccer moms, etc. Dramatically reducing illegal immigration, getting men out of girls' sports, getting LGBTQIA+ sex ed out of elementary schools, reducing waste and fraud in government, restoring meritocracy in hiring instead of DEI quotas, ending forever wars, etc.

Democratic Party politicians can take their pick. Survey their constituents and see which Trump policies are most popular. And work WITH him on a couple of those. The fraud and waste thing might be a good one. Dems could agree and amplify and turn the spotlight on the areas of Republican waste and fraud--the Pentagon, subsidies for oil and gas, etc etc. That would play better in Peoria than the Democratic position so far, which IS nuanced, but LOOKS to voters like an oppostion to ANY audits or spending cuts.

Trump literally promised them nothing.

And he has delivered

Unfortunately the cult of personality only allows some of us to get away with this. The rest actually have to come up with policies

We always say the same thing--the voters are stupid or in a cult. This is incorrect. Go to a flyover state and ask some independents and soccer moms what they want. They prefer Republican policies to Democratic ones.

They didn't enjoy the millions of new illegal immigrants the Biden administration brought in. They didn't enjoy lifetime tenure for bureaucrats. They didn't enjoy white men being blackballed from corporate hiring or promotions due to DEI quotas. They didn't enjoy Democrats' endlessly promoting "trans folks."

Of course WE think our policies are better, of course we know Trump is a liar. But it doesn't change the fact that a lot of things in our policy platform are unpopular with voters.

As an example, take the men in girls' sports that our Democratic Senators just voted to CONTINUE. Obviously that's unpopular among mainstream Democrats. 90% of the country is against it. But our leaders insisted. Why? To oppose Trump, to appease trans folk, and because we believe its the right thing to do whether the voters like it or not. We believe that some of our commitments to oppressed minorities are too important to compromise on even when we KNOW they hurt us at the ballot box. Maybe that's good. But it IS unpopular, just on the numbers.

The same thing is true with open borders. When we say "no human is illegal," the average American voter doesn't like it. When we say, "Sanctuary Cities," the average American voter doesn't like it. Maybe they are racist, maybe they are stupid, maybe they are in thrall to a cult-leader. But for whatever reason, more than half the voters DISAGREE with Democratic border and immigration policies. By definition, our border and immigration polices are unpopular.

Voters in red areas are turning out in droves for Bernie. And I can assure you he's not talking about those things you listed.

The average voter doesn't like immigration because they've been told that this is why they can't achieve the American dream. Not anything that corporate America is doing to defraud them

Pointing at immigration is the biggest distraction from what is really keeping average Americans from having a good living for them and their families. The Rs conveniently leave out who some of their biggest backers are.

And trans? GMAFB. None of that affects the average American. If you have a future for you and your family, you are worrying if so.e man is wearing a dress.

Your are responding to a dedicated troll when spews Fox News talking points and says "we Democrats" to troll you.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

I'm not a republican. I see the red team blue team stuff for what it is. This isn't football. Both parties are failing the average American because they are beholden to their large donors. It's rich vs poor and has been for a long time. Both parties represent the interests of the rich. And I don't mean dcum rich.

Shouldn't you be in class?

Funny. I have the morning off. Care to respond to what I said? Or you can't, so now you want to attack me?

That was me who wrote the message earlier and I have to get to work. Maybe later.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Well you already blew it. It's now year ten of the Trump era, because your efforts to "protect the country and the citizens from a con man" were so ham-handed and undemocratic and gross. You tried everything to "protect the country," and the country said, "No thanks, we prefer Trump." They know him pretty well by now, con-man tendencies and all, and they still chose him over you.

You guys, led by Trump, stormed Congress and tried to assassinate the Vice President.

LOL. Who is "you guys"? The Democrats have lost the plot. If the American people agreed with your "Jan6" takes, Trump wouldn't have won the election.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

I'm not a republican. I see the red team blue team stuff for what it is. This isn't football. Both parties are failing the average American because they are beholden to their large donors. It's rich vs poor and has been for a long time. Both parties represent the interests of the rich. And I don't mean dcum rich.

Shouldn't you be in class?

Funny. I have the morning off. Care to respond to what I said? Or you can't, so now you want to attack me?

You'll understand when you're older.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. You're not listening to voters right now. If we had an election today, Trump would lose.

But we don't. We had an election in November. Kamala lost. Any other facets of reality you need clarified?

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Well you already blew it. It's now year ten of the Trump era, because your efforts to "protect the country and the citizens from a con man" were so ham-handed and undemocratic and gross. You tried everything to "protect the country," and the country said, "No thanks, we prefer Trump." They know him pretty well by now, con-man tendencies and all, and they still chose him over you.

You guys, led by Trump, stormed Congress and tried to assassinate the Vice President.

LOL. Who is "you guys"? The Democrats have lost the plot. If the American people agreed with your "Jan6" takes, Trump wouldn't have won the election.

Even Trump's voters are getting more and more sick of him, after less than 2 months

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/5187064-trump-approval-rating-drops/amp/

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Anonymous wrote:DP. You're not listening to voters right now. If we had an election today, Trump would lose.

That is incorrect. It's wishful thinking. All leading Democratic politicians have seen their approval ratings fall MORE than Trump's since the election. They are all on record opposing audits and transparency and supporting endless spending and tenure for all bureaucrats. Look at some polls. Would Kamala beat Trump today? Would Biden? Would Buttigieg? Would Warren? No no no and no.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point it's political suicide to stand up to Trump. The only Democrats who survive in elected office will be the ones who cooperate and help him with his agenda. Sad but true.

Absolutely wrong and tone deaf.

Tone deaf to dcurbanmoms, but right on with the national electorate. Approval ratings for Democrats have plunged during Trump's two months in office. Trump's ratings have slipped a little too, but nothing like what's happened to Democrats. We struggle to grok it here in DC, but "all the craziness" of Trump's first 60 days have HELPED Republicans relative to Democrats. The numbers don't lie.

Back in calmer times, Republicans and Democrats worked together. Think of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. But now Democrats have been "fighting" for 8 years, and the voters' response was to deliver Trump every single swing state and for every Demographic group to shift toward Republicans. The number of voters who want Democrats to just obstruct for the next four years is too small to deliver election victories to Democrats.

I understand the calculus that many Democratic office holders are using. They know that Trump hate is the most important motivation for the most active Democrats. And they are afraid of being primaried from the Left. BUT...they aren't going to be able to win general elections if they do nothing but obstruct. They won't be able to win back the flyover state folks and independents and soccer moms if they reject the message those voters just sent--that they want populist Republicanism right now, not establishment Democratic obstructionism.

Republicans for years having voted No on almost everything. Congress has the lowest approval rating and each year it continues to be lower. So Democrats should just vote No or be absent.

Stop with the propaganda that all these folk want populist Republicanism. It’s a lie. What most people want and desire is an ALTERNATIVE. Quite frankly I expect more people to become Independents.

That just means checked out at this point.

I expect people to vote one way or another based on their wallet, not worry so much about belonging to one party or another

The voters consistently report trusting Republicans more with the economy than they trust Democrats. We've gotten awfully excited about the stock market backing down 10% off its highs. We're hoping that an economic downturn will make people wish they had voted for Kamala Harris. I would argue that's an unlikely outcome. That's not really how human psychology works. And hope is not a strategy. What are we going to DO, other than loudly wish for the American people to suffer a recession? (which is obviously not a great look. they know we want power, but do we have to be SO obvious about wanting Americans to suffer for daring to oppose us?)

No we don’t want “power” you disingenuous fool. We want to protect our country and the citizens from a con man who will sell us all out.

Wishing for everyone who disagrees with you to suffer doesn't exactly sound like you want to "protect" the country. It sounds like you're mad you didn't get want you want and want to hurt people now in response, or at least you hope they get hurt.

Democrats try to claim the moral high ground on everything, but your true colors show every time you don't get what you want. You dint actually care about people. You wear a costume of caring about people as part of your strategy. But the mask slips when you're angry.

We get it.

You hate democrats, but if you really are a flyover state person, you need to know the national Rs are selling you out, lock stock and barrel.

I'm not saying you might not have good local R government. I live in a place like that. The local Rs are more moderate. They care for their constituents. But the national Republicans are only acting in the best interests of their very rich supporters right now. There are a lot of guardrails being removed ( let's be honest, placed there by Democrats) which used to protect the little guy, the average American.

If people wish for a recession it's so people can understand how harmful some of these new policies are and how Trump is dismantling the country so it's no longer "of the people, for the people, by the people."

I'm not a republican. I see the red team blue team stuff for what it is. This isn't football. Both parties are failing the average American because they are beholden to their large donors. It's rich vs poor and has been for a long time. Both parties represent the interests of the rich. And I don't mean dcum rich.

Shouldn't you be in class?

Funny. I have the morning off. Care to respond to what I said? Or you can't, so now you want to attack me?

That was me who wrote the message earlier and I have to get to work. Maybe later.

Lol so no, you can't. 🤣

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Anonymous wrote:DP. You're not listening to voters right now. If we had an election today, Trump would lose.

But we don't. We had an election in November. Kamala lost. Any other facets of reality you need clarified?

We get reality. You and your guy do what you want because you can get away with it, regardless of the will of the people or the law or Court rulings.