Pledge of Allegiance in HS

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Anonymous wrote:Whether you say the pledge or not is your business. But, sitting during the pledge is disrespectful--and any "educated" eprson would know that.

just like you don't talk during a prayer--even if you are an atheist. It is disrespectful to those around you.

Most forms of protest are “disrespectful “ but it’s not dishonoring vats.

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Ask the Vietnam vets about what dishonoring vets means.

And, the "vet" who posted said that most vets feel the same way he does. I strongly disagree and I am married to a highly educated vet who cannot believe it when people choose to disrespect the flag.

Of course, they have the "right" to do it. It doesn't mean it is not disrespectful. It also doesn't mean that most vets feel the way he does.

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Have you ever attended any of the School Board meetings? Have you ever visited classrooms in FCPS where you see many Rainbow/Trans/ BLM flags and barely any U.S. flagS?

You can also ask your children, if you have any. They’ll tell you the difference in attitude at school when referring to the U.S. flag and the activist flags.

Nice try. A mare existence of a pride flag does not equal to what you claimed which is that teachers are asking students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag instead of the American flag. Don't back paddle now. Im sorry that it offends you so greatly that teachers are trying to be inclusive of all of their students. I guess you're only patriotic as long as the country is straight and white.

How inclusive are you when it comes to patriotic, or white, or Christian, or straight students? Are you inclusive of the students’ parents who serve in the military and to whom the U.S. flag represents their sacrifice? How about people who are not white, are you inclusive enough to see them as your equal by not labeling them as victims or oppressed? How about women, are you inclusive enough to treat them in word and action as equal to men, meaning you don’t label them as opposed or victims?
The U.S. flag is a symbol that represents everything we have overcome to become the nation we are today and the sacrifices made by those who serve in the military to protect EVERYONE, not just a certain sector of the population.

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Have you ever attended any of the School Board meetings? Have you ever visited classrooms in FCPS where you see many Rainbow/Trans/ BLM flags and barely any U.S. flagS?

You can also ask your children, if you have any. They’ll tell you the difference in attitude at school when referring to the U.S. flag and the activist flags.

Nice try. A mare existence of a pride flag does not equal to what you claimed which is that teachers are asking students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag instead of the American flag. Don't back paddle now. Im sorry that it offends you so greatly that teachers are trying to be inclusive of all of their students. I guess you're only patriotic as long as the country is straight and white.

How inclusive are you when it comes to patriotic, or white, or Christian, or straight students? Are you inclusive of the students’ parents who serve in the military and to whom the U.S. flag represents their sacrifice? How about people who are not white, are you inclusive enough to see them as your equal by not labeling them as victims or oppressed? How about women, are you inclusive enough to treat them in word and action as equal to men, meaning you don’t label them as opposed or victims?
The U.S. flag is a symbol that represents everything we have overcome to become the nation we are today and the sacrifices made by those who serve in the military to protect EVERYONE, not just a certain sector of the population.

Literally, no one is persecuting any of these groups you mentioned. No one is "preventing patriotic, or white, or Christian, or straight students" from pledging allegiance to the US flag. In fact, they do it every day. The rest of your nonsense is not even worth responding to.

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Have you ever attended any of the School Board meetings? Have you ever visited classrooms in FCPS where you see many Rainbow/Trans/ BLM flags and barely any U.S. flagS?

You can also ask your children, if you have any. They’ll tell you the difference in attitude at school when referring to the U.S. flag and the activist flags.

DP
Which schools are you visiting? Do you work in a school? DW and I are both teachers (ES and MS). Every classroom has a U. S. flag. Neither of us recall ever seeing a BLM flag. Perhaps a small Pride flag or sticker in a MS. Definitely not “many”.

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Have you ever attended any of the School Board meetings? Have you ever visited classrooms in FCPS where you see many Rainbow/Trans/ BLM flags and barely any U.S. flagS?

You can also ask your children, if you have any. They’ll tell you the difference in attitude at school when referring to the U.S. flag and the activist flags.

DP
Which schools are you visiting? Do you work in a school? DW and I are both teachers (ES and MS). Every classroom has a U. S. flag. Neither of us recall ever seeing a BLM flag. Perhaps a small Pride flag or sticker in a MS. Definitely not “many”.

He/She is not visiting any schools, of course. Just like there are no litter boxes in the bathrooms. All of this is just Fox news propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This country is great because we have strong values that enabled us to resist the theocratic forces that tried to force a loyalty pledge.

God Bless America!

Civic nationalism is only thing that unities america.

And shopping

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Anonymous wrote:interestingly it seems there is zero allegiance to this country. not surprising.

Because kids aren't reciting a pledge? Read West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette sometime.

Exactly Pledging Allegiance is voluntary. What does it say about the state of our society when less than 7% of a class is willing to voluntarily pledge allegiance?

That it's a dumb ritual and has nothing to do with how one feels about one's country?

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares? Honestly. Why would pledging the flag make any difference on 9/11? If anything, 9/11 represents the start of a 20 year+ immoral war that unjustifiably killed so many people and spanned two generations of men who were conned into joining the military for it.

Any kid or adult CAN stand and any kid or adult can sit. I’m a teacher. I’m not saying it.

Tell it to the U.S. soldiers who proudly recite the Pledge of Allegiance on a daily basis as they serve and even sacrifice their lives in order to protect your right to have choices and to live in freedom.

Visit veterans and learn from them about the concept of service to others, including those who think differently than they do. You will get a glimpse of the real meaning of pride as reflected in their sacrifice. Similar to being a parent, we love our kids even when we disagree with them.

You do know vets and military did not die on 9/11 right?

And if you talk to an educated vet they will tell you they fought for freedom, fought to protect the constitution and they fought so HS students can't be forced to stand during the PoA.

Vets went out when cops were beating protestor to explain to them that they had put their life on the line so we don't live in a military state.

Incorrect military and vets died

https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Experience/Pentagon-Memorial/

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Pride flag is under the American flag at child's school so they do turn and Facebook it.

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Have you ever attended any of the School Board meetings? Have you ever visited classrooms in FCPS where you see many Rainbow/Trans/ BLM flags and barely any U.S. flagS?

You can also ask your children, if you have any. They’ll tell you the difference in attitude at school when referring to the U.S. flag and the activist flags.

DP
Which schools are you visiting? Do you work in a school? DW and I are both teachers (ES and MS). Every classroom has a U. S. flag. Neither of us recall ever seeing a BLM flag. Perhaps a small Pride flag or sticker in a MS. Definitely not “many”.

He/She is not visiting any schools, of course. Just like there are no litter boxes in the bathrooms. All of this is just Fox news propaganda.

Oh, I’m sure, but it doesn’t hurt to press the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Whether you say the pledge or not is your business. But, sitting during the pledge is disrespectful--and any "educated" eprson would know that.

just like you don't talk during a prayer--even if you are an atheist. It is disrespectful to those around you.

Most forms of protest are “disrespectful “ but it’s not dishonoring vats.

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Ask the Vietnam vets about what dishonoring vets means.

And, the "vet" who posted said that most vets feel the same way he does. I strongly disagree and I am married to a highly educated vet who cannot believe it when people choose to disrespect the flag.

Of course, they have the "right" to do it. It doesn't mean it is not disrespectful. It also doesn't mean that most vets feel the way he does.

What vets like your husband don’t understand is that people don’t HAVE to respect the military and if they don’t it’s because the US military goes into other countries, destroys them, kills their citizens, creates massive upheaval to economic systems, etc. in the name of US hegemony. I get that people who enlist are told they’re “protecting their country” so they feel they’re doing good work but they’re really just advancing US dominance over other sovereign countries. American citizens are not obligated to respect a massive military that gobbles resources that could be used to sustain life for citizens in the US and that functionally destroys other countries to protect and hoard US assets.

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Retired Air Force here and the Flag doesn't belong to the military. It is the people's symbol.

Choosing to Pledge or not is not a sign of disrespect for veterans and active duty; it is the right of the citizen that the flag represents.

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Yes I said educated.

Wow. This person thinks that educated people do not respect this country. I don't know what group he/she hangs with, but I have been around many highly educated military people and the ones I know respect the flag.

Wonder is this vet is teaching in FCPS--sounds like one whose "wife" tweets a lot.

I'm not surprised you don't understand. She did say "educated."

You must belong to the “tolerant” party.

Education is something you can definitely obtain even on your own, so no, I don't tolerate ignorance. You choose to be ignorant and that's on you.

Educated one, what is your take on this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3tVryT7ZU

what does this have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

It has everything to do with FCPS encouraging students allegiance to the Rainbow flag while discouraging them from allegiance to what the U.S. flag represents. No one can serve two masters.

Watch the entire video for context.

Who at FCPS is encouraging students to pledge allegiance to the pride flag? You are insane.

Have you ever attended any of the School Board meetings? Have you ever visited classrooms in FCPS where you see many Rainbow/Trans/ BLM flags and barely any U.S. flagS?

You can also ask your children, if you have any. They’ll tell you the difference in attitude at school when referring to the U.S. flag and the activist flags.

DP
Which schools are you visiting? Do you work in a school? DW and I are both teachers (ES and MS). Every classroom has a U. S. flag. Neither of us recall ever seeing a BLM flag. Perhaps a small Pride flag or sticker in a MS. Definitely not “many”.

He/She is not visiting any schools, of course. Just like there are no litter boxes in the bathrooms. All of this is just Fox news propaganda.

It must be propaganda. New conservative bogey man? I have Facebook friends in other parts of the country who recently posted almost the exact same thing, HSers not reciting pledge

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Anonymous wrote:Whether you say the pledge or not is your business. But, sitting during the pledge is disrespectful--and any "educated" eprson would know that.

just like you don't talk during a prayer--even if you are an atheist. It is disrespectful to those around you.

Most forms of protest are “disrespectful “ but it’s not dishonoring vats.

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Ask the Vietnam vets about what dishonoring vets means.

And, the "vet" who posted said that most vets feel the same way he does. I strongly disagree and I am married to a highly educated vet who cannot believe it when people choose to disrespect the flag.

Of course, they have the "right" to do it. It doesn't mean it is not disrespectful. It also doesn't mean that most vets feel the way he does.

I'm not sure which vet you're talking about about but you're assuming that vet is a male. I'm a vet and I've posted twice, once about not saying the pledge in hs yet still managing to serve for 8 years and once about military members trying to make sure they are inside at "retreat." I am a woman. It discredits your argument when you make broad assumptions about the gender of service members and/or their commitment to country over something so trite as "the pledge" or even retreat. You really have no idea. I support(ed) and defend(ed) the Constitution, and took the oath to it and it says people have freedom of speech, the right to assemble, etc. I do not worry nor find it "disrespectful" when someone chooses not stand for the pledge or the national anthem, yet I do both. I don't even worry whether they kneel. It bothers me not because that is what I fought for, their right to choose.

I do find it rather hypocritical when the same people bleating about standing/saying the pledge, and how disrespectful it is not to stand, or whatever, wear those God awful flag shirts/shorts, etc. Guess what, that too is actually against the rules as per the US Flag Code (Public Law 94-344 https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/flagdisplay.pdf). I don't worry about them either because again, I care more about someone's freedoms than whether they are obeying an archaic flag law.

Oh and for that ridiculous person blathering about how I must be a terrible parent or whatever, my child and I do stand for the pledge along with the national anthem. We also don't wear flag clothes. It's really not about that and if you can't see why I have no problem with those who choose differently then I really can't help you.

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I do find it rather hypocritical when the same people bleating about standing/saying the pledge, and how disrespectful it is not to stand, or whatever, wear those God awful flag shirts/shorts, etc. Guess what, that too is actually against the rules as per the US Flag Code (Public Law 94-344 https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/flagdisplay.pdf). I don't worry about them either because again, I care more about someone's freedoms than whether they are obeying an archaic flag law.

You don't understand the difference in wearing an image of the flag and the flag itself? Go read the code again. It only addresses not putting it on something that is temporary and will be trashed--like paper napkins.