Pledge of Allegiance in HS

Anonymous
When I was in HS we were required to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I guess I never really considered that in HS today kids don't need to stand and they don't need to recite it. Teachers can't enforce it and it is of course a right of freedom of expression. On 9/11 my child and 1 of 2 teachers took the time to stand and recite the pledge out of the 30ish people in the class. The one teacher that recited it said "really even on 9/11". What a change...
Anonymous
My kid is an atheist. He says the pledge but does not say "under God." I have zero issues with kids not saying it. It feels a little weird to be requiring school children to pledge their allegiance to this country every morning.
Anonymous
If you feel passionately about this issue, you should recite the pledge every morning before you begin work. Truly. See how many days you keep it up.
Anonymous
The opportunity is there every morning. If they don’t say it they don’t say it, as long as they are respectful (quietly seated or standing). I have no problem with that. It’s probably good to understand the meaning of the Pledge. Requiring recitation wouldn’t seem right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid is an atheist. He says the pledge but does not say "under God." I have zero issues with kids not saying it. It feels a little weird to be requiring school children to pledge their allegiance to this country every morning.


The money he uses and asks you for says In God We Trust so I guess he isn't asking for anymore money?
Anonymous
Why are we requiring/recommending that kids recite the pledge every morning, but we are not requiring/recommending adults to do so? (Unless they work in a school system.)
Anonymous
Half of my kids’ school either isn’t American at all or has dual citizenship with another country as mine do. I hope my kids aren’t pledging allegiance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why are we requiring/recommending that kids recite the pledge every morning, but we are not requiring/recommending adults to do so? (Unless they work in a school system.)


Here is part of the state law, FWIW:

Each school board shall require the daily recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in each classroom of the school division and shall ensure that the flag of the United States is in place in each such classroom. Each school board shall determine the appropriate time during the school day for the recitation of the Pledge. During such Pledge of Allegiance, students shall stand and recite the Pledge while facing the flag with their right hands over their hearts or in an appropriate salute if in uniform; however, no student shall be compelled to recite the Pledge if he, his parent or legal guardian objects on religious, philosophical or other grounds to his participating in this exercise. Students who are thus exempt from reciting the Pledge shall remain quietly standing or sitting at their desks while others recite the Pledge and shall make no display that disrupts or distracts others who are reciting the Pledge. School boards shall provide appropriate accommodations for students who are unable to comply with the procedures described herein due to disability.
Anonymous
interestingly it seems there is zero allegiance to this country. not surprising.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:interestingly it seems there is zero allegiance to this country. not surprising.


Because kids aren't reciting a pledge? Read West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette sometime.
Anonymous
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Kumbaya, people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:interestingly it seems there is zero allegiance to this country. not surprising.


Because kids aren't reciting a pledge? Read West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette sometime.


Exactly Pledging Allegiance is voluntary. What does it say about the state of our society when less than 7% of a class is willing to voluntarily pledge allegiance?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When I was in HS we were required to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I guess I never really considered that in HS today kids don't need to stand and they don't need to recite it. Teachers can't enforce it and it is of course a right of freedom of expression. On 9/11 my child and 1 of 2 teachers took the time to stand and recite the pledge out of the 30ish people in the class. The one teacher that recited it said "really even on 9/11". What a change...


This is not North Korea. We do not do forced or performative patriotism here. "Freedom" applies to this, regardless of whether you agree. And that teacher should be ashamed of his/herself. Hopefully, they don't teach history or government.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:interestingly it seems there is zero allegiance to this country. not surprising.


You no sh-- about this country and what it stands for if you think this should be a forced activity. So pipe down.
Anonymous
I stand for it, but haven't recited it since March 12, 2020.
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