Very pretty, educated and successful 30-something women single or with unattractive and/or unsuccessful men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um, maybe people in your daughter’s generation are less judgy, petty, and concerned with surface level things such as appearance? Maybe social status is not as important to them?

The appeal of facial symmetry, beauty, and outward health are baked into our DNA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

I must be butt ugly then because I was making $300-400k a year in my early 30’s a few years ago and barely got any matches on the apps (no longer single thankfully, I found someone great but it took a while)

Are you a man?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah Larry Ellison and Leo Decaprio are definitely dating 20 something’s because they can’t get a woman in her 30’s!

Again, why are we talking about millionaires like they are a regular occurrence or even appropriate to this discussion? Such an obsession here.

My workplace has one "beautiful" guy who is 35 and single and no motivation and one beautiful woman who is pretty dumb as well. There are around 100 other mediocre looking people all who have similar beauty and skill between sexes. You would think most of them would just pair up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

I must be butt ugly then because I was making $300-400k a year in my early 30’s a few years ago and barely got any matches on the apps (no longer single thankfully, I found someone great but it took a while)

Are you a man?

Yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter hosted a gathering this weekend. She and her friends are all 30 to 35 years old. This may sound terrible but I couldn’t help but notice how many of her stunning lifelong friends were either long-term single or their male companions (husbands, fiancés, and live-in boyfriends) were optics mismatches and also, many of them didn’t seem to have a lot going on professionally. I’m not just saying this because I’ve known them for so long. My daughter’s friends are very attractive, very sporty lifestyles, most have two degrees, and they are successful professionally. I’m sorry for noticing, but most of the men they were with just were not handsome at all. Even my husband noticed and he never makes comments like that.

Is this reflective of how challenging it is out there for women my daughter’s age?

DC is not known for having oodles of handsome men, for one thing. But, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

This is true, and he doesn't even have to commit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The other part of the Stepford wives that never made sense was that these men who had no social skills or looks would somehow have made the money they did. It's a dream that men can somehow achieve high monetary status without actually being agreeable themselves, hardworking, and good looking.

Have you ever heard of Michael Burry or Bill Gates or Harvey Weinstein?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other part of the Stepford wives that never made sense was that these men who had no social skills or looks would somehow have made the money they did. It's a dream that men can somehow achieve high monetary status without actually being agreeable themselves, hardworking, and good looking.

Have you ever heard of Michael Burry or Bill Gates or Harvey Weinstein?

Or oodles of other men… especially in tech. I’m from the Bay Area and plenty of disagreeable, socially awkward and unattractive guys have achieved high monetary status there in the last 30 years!

[Anonymous]

Go visit a beach on the Outer Banks this summer. Nothing but land whales, ages 20-80. Now go visit a beach in Japan. Nothing but thin, trim, attractive women, ages 20-80.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

There are no 9s in dc

If 9s existed in dc, the athletes here wouldn’t be flying in women.

Go to Madrid or Milan and dc is gross when one returns.

Salt Lake City has more head turners than dc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not trying to be a jerk here, but this is the future for women in DC and many other large metropolitan areas. This is very common and, frankly, accepted in DC these days. Scrubby dudes with great ladies is the norm. A guy who loves video games and is a college dropout with a half-assed job can easily bag a 9 here in DC.

I must be butt ugly then because I was making $300-400k a year in my early 30’s a few years ago and barely got any matches on the apps (no longer single thankfully, I found someone great but it took a while)

Are you a man?

Pp is probably in shape but a minority guy and/or below 5’10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

Esp if they are white

I find poc women more realistic / accepting of their aging than white women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

I think it boils down to the early and mid 30s “girl boss” women — even if they are still very attractive — just tend to have a lot of baggage and hangups. Not their fault. How can you not have a lot of baggage and trauma if you’ve been unsuccessfully dating men for 15 to 20 years. Plus decades of birth control screwing up your hormones, maybe an abortion, and all the stress that comes with a career, which requires you to be a bit pushy and elbowy.

[Anonymous]

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

An issue I have noticed is single 30-something women rarely act their age. They tend to force this wannabe hip persona, trying to dress like and using lexicon as if they are a Gen Z who just graduated from college. It doesn’t dupe men their age, it comes across as very desperate and cringe, for lack of a better word.