Very pretty, educated and successful 30-something women single or with unattractive and/or unsuccessful men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

I think it boils down to the early and mid 30s “girl boss” women — even if they are still very attractive — just tend to have a lot of baggage and hangups. Not their fault. How can you not have a lot of baggage and trauma if you’ve been unsuccessfully dating men for 15 to 20 years. Plus decades of birth control screwing up your hormones, maybe an abortion, and all the stress that comes with a career, which requires you to be a bit pushy and elbowy.

What a misogynist!

Oh and birth control didn't screw up my hormones and also made it so I never needed an abortion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

Esp if they are white

I find poc women more realistic / accepting of their aging than white women

That's racist, and also an inaccurate assumption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

An issue I have noticed is single 30-something women rarely act their age. They tend to force this wannabe hip persona, trying to dress like and using lexicon as if they are a Gen Z who just graduated from college. It doesn’t dupe men their age, it comes across as very desperate and cringe, for lack of a better word.

I've noticed this as well. Newsflash, 34 isn't 25.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

An issue I have noticed is single 30-something women rarely act their age. They tend to force this wannabe hip persona, trying to dress like and using lexicon as if they are a Gen Z who just graduated from college. It doesn’t dupe men their age, it comes across as very desperate and cringe, for lack of a better word.

I've noticed this as well. Newsflash, 34 isn't 25.

It's all about looks. Truly beautiful women remain attractive to opposite gender though whole life. An average 40 something man would take a truly beautiful 40s woman over a mediocre 30 y.o. anytime. And because women are less visual than man, beauties have wide choices at any age. They trade down in looks for their male partner but not in other areas (education, finances etc).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

An issue I have noticed is single 30-something women rarely act their age. They tend to force this wannabe hip persona, trying to dress like and using lexicon as if they are a Gen Z who just graduated from college. It doesn’t dupe men their age, it comes across as very desperate and cringe, for lack of a better word.

I've noticed this as well. Newsflash, 34 isn't 25.

Reminds me of the Parks and Recreation scene where the terminally single 30-something superiors ask the young intern (Aubrey Plaza) what sort of hip music she's listening to.

[Anonymous]

If the women were as beautiful as OP imagined, they would not struggle to find a successful/attractive partner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

I think it boils down to the early and mid 30s “girl boss” women — even if they are still very attractive — just tend to have a lot of baggage and hangups. Not their fault. How can you not have a lot of baggage and trauma if you’ve been unsuccessfully dating men for 15 to 20 years. Plus decades of birth control screwing up your hormones, maybe an abortion, and all the stress that comes with a career, which requires you to be a bit pushy and elbowy.

What a misogynist!

Oh and birth control didn't screw up my hormones and also made it so I never needed an abortion.

If a woman in her 30s and both single and childless, after four years of undergrad, X years of advanced degrees, a career in a major city, and various boyfriends and hookups through the years, it is very likely she’s been on birth control off and on for upwards of 20 years and possibly has had an abortion. BC is not 100% and women go off it from time to time, especially when single.

Whether you want to admit to it or not, this is all BAGGAGE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the women were as beautiful as OP imagined, they would not struggle to find a successful/attractive partner.

You must not live in a major city. It is hard out there. The good men are taken by late 20s or they want a younger conservative woman, not a liberal girl boss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the women were as beautiful as OP imagined, they would not struggle to find a successful/attractive partner.

You must not live in a major city. It is hard out there. The good men are taken by late 20s or they want a younger conservative woman, not a liberal girl boss.

Maybe in NYC or Miami. Maybe. But in DC there is a dearth of attractive people of both sexes. Any woman in DC, liberal or conservative, who is actually beautiful will have successful men beating down her door. There are a lot of successful men and women in DC, not a lot of attractive people in their 30s though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter hosted a gathering this weekend. She and her friends are all 30 to 35 years old. This may sound terrible but I couldn’t help but notice how many of her stunning lifelong friends were either long-term single or their male companions (husbands, fiancés, and live-in boyfriends) were optics mismatches and also, many of them didn’t seem to have a lot going on professionally. I’m not just saying this because I’ve known them for so long. My daughter’s friends are very attractive, very sporty lifestyles, most have two degrees, and they are successful professionally. I’m sorry for noticing, but most of the men they were with just were not handsome at all. Even my husband noticed and he never makes comments like that.

Is this reflective of how challenging it is out there for women my daughter’s age?

Maybe you are lesbian?

Maybe the husbands have long tongues?

Maybe smart women have learned what matters in a relationship?

[Anonymous]

Hope Hicks is nearly 35. Still childless and unmarried. It is an epidemic. There are so few good men out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the women were as beautiful as OP imagined, they would not struggle to find a successful/attractive partner.

Not necessarily. Finding people is all about proximity. In midlife it is very hard to get into the environments where successful people are. Even if she is successful herself, on one income she is likely to have less access to those circles than married people do. I can see why dating services would be a consideration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

I think it boils down to the early and mid 30s “girl boss” women — even if they are still very attractive — just tend to have a lot of baggage and hangups. Not their fault. How can you not have a lot of baggage and trauma if you’ve been unsuccessfully dating men for 15 to 20 years. Plus decades of birth control screwing up your hormones, maybe an abortion, and all the stress that comes with a career, which requires you to be a bit pushy and elbowy.

What a misogynist!

Oh and birth control didn't screw up my hormones and also made it so I never needed an abortion.

If a woman in her 30s and both single and childless, after four years of undergrad, X years of advanced degrees, a career in a major city, and various boyfriends and hookups through the years, it is very likely she’s been on birth control off and on for upwards of 20 years and possibly has had an abortion. BC is not 100% and women go off it from time to time, especially when single.

Whether you want to admit to it or not, this is all BAGGAGE.

Ok now I know you are nuts. No, most women on bc have not had an abortion, and most women have not had an abortion. And whether or not she has had one or been on birth control is not baggage in the least. It’s basic human hygiene. This is like saying that thirty years of brushing your teeth is baggage. Ludicrous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope Hicks is nearly 35. Still childless and unmarried. It is an epidemic. There are so few good men out there.

And her taste isn’t too good either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe OP.

Mid-30s the top tier men are either married and fathers or soon-to-be fathers or dating younger.

The relatively good looking divorced dads of means are dating much younger women. 40-yr old neighbor, dad of two young boys, moved in when he and his (successful, pretty, same-age-as-him) wife separated. Within 6 months he had a 25 year-old girlfriend who clearly thought he hung the moon. The 25-yr old (who doesn't even seem to have a job) has since moved in. A 35-yr old would know this guy doesn't hang the moon, and he knows it. He isn't picking the young dummy because she's pretty, he's picking her because he knows that deep down he's a loser and older women would sniff it out quickly.

So there's that phenomenon going on. Divorced men dating 20-something women because they know the 30-something women wouldn't want them anyway (or they at least fear this).

Yeah, the guy couldn’t be dating a 25-year-old because she’s hotter, more youthful and more fertile (qualities that men have valued since time immemorial). It must be that he is intimidated by the 35-year-old.

Middle-age woman cope is really a sight to behold!

I think it boils down to the early and mid 30s “girl boss” women — even if they are still very attractive — just tend to have a lot of baggage and hangups. Not their fault. How can you not have a lot of baggage and trauma if you’ve been unsuccessfully dating men for 15 to 20 years. Plus decades of birth control screwing up your hormones, maybe an abortion, and all the stress that comes with a career, which requires you to be a bit pushy and elbowy.

What a misogynist!

Oh and birth control didn't screw up my hormones and also made it so I never needed an abortion.

If a woman in her 30s and both single and childless, after four years of undergrad, X years of advanced degrees, a career in a major city, and various boyfriends and hookups through the years, it is very likely she’s been on birth control off and on for upwards of 20 years and possibly has had an abortion. BC is not 100% and women go off it from time to time, especially when single.

Whether you want to admit to it or not, this is all BAGGAGE.

Ok now I know you are nuts. No, most women on bc have not had an abortion, and most women have not had an abortion. And whether or not she has had one or been on birth control is not baggage in the least. It’s basic human hygiene. This is like saying that thirty years of brushing your teeth is baggage. Ludicrous.

We are not talking about “most women,” the cohort the thread is about are successful 30-something girl bosses. The thread has digressed into single 30-something women who are unmarried and childless. If you get to such an advanced age without a marriage or baby, safe bet some history of BC, Plan B, and/or an abortion. They are not “hygiene” and they do impact your body and mind.