If you are moderate Dem, would you consider an establishment Republican in 2024? Why/why not

Anonymous
I will also never vote for another Republican after 1/6.

Voted for Hogan in Maryland, but never again after that disgusting GOP attempt at a coup.
Anonymous
I’m a lifelong, Occupy Wall Street type Democrat. By pre-2016 standards, I’m ultra, ultra liberal. Nonetheless, I’d definitely take a good look at any non-Trump Republican in 2024. We have two highly problematic, anti-American parties each of whom has taken terrible positions on different social issues. Ds are crazy on gender ideology. Rs are crazy on abortion. Neither party deserves any trust or loyalty.
Anonymous
I voted for an establishment Republican in 2020. His name is Joe Biden.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I voted for an establishment Republican in 2020. His name is Joe Biden.


Good one
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m a lifelong, Occupy Wall Street type Democrat. By pre-2016 standards, I’m ultra, ultra liberal. Nonetheless, I’d definitely take a good look at any non-Trump Republican in 2024. We have two highly problematic, anti-American parties each of whom has taken terrible positions on different social issues. Ds are crazy on gender ideology. Rs are crazy on abortion. Neither party deserves any trust or loyalty.


Please, I'd love you to explain how some Democrats' feelings about gender are in any way parallel to Republicans literally banning abortion. I guess I missed the law that makes all kids have to transition, or something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a lifelong, Occupy Wall Street type Democrat. By pre-2016 standards, I’m ultra, ultra liberal. Nonetheless, I’d definitely take a good look at any non-Trump Republican in 2024. We have two highly problematic, anti-American parties each of whom has taken terrible positions on different social issues. Ds are crazy on gender ideology. Rs are crazy on abortion. Neither party deserves any trust or loyalty.


Please, I'd love you to explain how some Democrats' feelings about gender are in any way parallel to Republicans literally banning abortion. I guess I missed the law that makes all kids have to transition, or something.

No longer content to pose as “MoDeRaTe DeMs,” republicans here have decided to go whole hog and pretend to be “Occupy Wall Street” types. Basically: ignore them.
Anonymous
Ds are crazy on gender ideology.


the heck, what? we're not. we're protective of those oppressed. Case closed. And a clump of cells isn't one.
Anonymous
I'm a progressive Democrat and if it meant a guarantee that the MAGA phenomenon was dead and buried for good, I'd absolutely put up with four years of moderate Republican government.

Of course, the problem is how do you define "moderate?" Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis ain't it - Hell, DeSantis is an outright fascist. Romney? Sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a progressive Democrat and if it meant a guarantee that the MAGA phenomenon was dead and buried for good, I'd absolutely put up with four years of moderate Republican government.

Of course, the problem is how do you define "moderate?" Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis ain't it - Hell, DeSantis is an outright fascist. Romney? Sure.

The wag upthread who said Biden is a moderate Republican wasn’t wrong. There are no moderate Republicans. None. I’d put up with Eisenhower in office. That was the last sane Republican in the White House (and yes, I’m including HW.).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a lifelong, Occupy Wall Street type Democrat. By pre-2016 standards, I’m ultra, ultra liberal. Nonetheless, I’d definitely take a good look at any non-Trump Republican in 2024. We have two highly problematic, anti-American parties each of whom has taken terrible positions on different social issues. Ds are crazy on gender ideology. Rs are crazy on abortion. Neither party deserves any trust or loyalty.


Please, I'd love you to explain how some Democrats' feelings about gender are in any way parallel to Republicans literally banning abortion. I guess I missed the law that makes all kids have to transition, or something.

No longer content to pose as “MoDeRaTe DeMs,” republicans here have decided to go whole hog and pretend to be “Occupy Wall Street” types. Basically: ignore them.


Uh yeah. I'm a moderate Dem and absolutely loathed the whole occupy wall street types. I voted for Hogan in his last election and Moore in the latest. My wife and I would love a moderate Republican to come along that could tame the crazies. Hogan was fine and kept the worst tendencies of the Democratic legislature in check. If we had a Republican like Charlie Baker or perhaps Phil Scott, I imagine I'd carefully consider them. What's the commonality here? It's a Republican elected in a very blue state.

The problem is what positions do they take to tame the worst elements of the Republican Party? We don't need more tax cuts. We don't need massive deregulation. We don't need more defense spending. We need to protect abortion rights as well as the rights of minorities.

I'd love a functioning Republican Party that negotiated in good faith, was willing to compromise, and recognized that when they lose, Democrats are legitimate governing party. Unfortunately, every election cycle just tosses out whoever was most moderate in the primaries. If you want a moderate Republican (i.e., your Reagan Democrat in 80s), look to the Democratic Party. They need to fix gerrymandering and/or penalize the extremists. Unfortunately, until there are consistent consequences for elected Republican officials, I don't see things changing.
Anonymous
Mitch McConnell is an establishment Republican. So is Kevin McCarthy. Is that who you mean? No thanks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Mitch McConnell is an establishment Republican. So is Kevin McCarthy. Is that who you mean? No thanks.


Mitch McConnell is establishment but has never been a moderate. He also doesn't negotiate in good faith.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a progressive Democrat and if it meant a guarantee that the MAGA phenomenon was dead and buried for good, I'd absolutely put up with four years of moderate Republican government.

Of course, the problem is how do you define "moderate?" Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis ain't it - Hell, DeSantis is an outright fascist. Romney? Sure.


Haley is quite moderate, another Mitt Romney who will pretend to be conservative. She is part of the neocon warmonger crowd. The only difference is she pretended to be with Trump and the NeverTrumpers pretended to be against her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What I’ve learned in 4 pages of this thread:

There is literally no living Republican DCUM would ever vote for. (and those of you answered “Eisenhower” clearly know nothing about Dwight D. Eisenhower, lol! Ike would be too conservative for the [i]Republican[i/] party today!)

Also, no one attempted to define what a “moderate” Democrat is. Which makes perfect sense, because you [i]can’t[i/] define something that doesn’t exist - otherwise it could be defined.


And I almost spit my coffee out laughing at the poster who “pleaded with their Republican friends to support Kasich instead”, as if they themselves would’ve voted for Kasich over Hillary in the general?!?! Laughable!


Don’t ever change, DCUM.



You're absolutely right there is no chance I would have supported him over Hillary. As I pointed out in my earlier post the Republicans have too much of a certain tiki torch wielding fringe element for me to actually vote for any of them.

My hope was that on election night I would have been able to go to sleep knowing that no matter who won we wouldn't have a president that cared more about staying in power than the strength of our democracy. You know, someone who's not a POS... I know tall order.

Anonymous
NP. I’m a moderate Democrat who has voted Republican in the past, though not since the insane, Trumpist end of the party took power. I’d vote for a reasonable Republican but I don’t think there are any on the national scale now. De Santis seems too fascist to me.

I feel increasingly alienated from the Democrat party as well because of their wholesale embrace of misogyny. I expected that from Republicans but it hurts more from Democrats. I can’t vote Republican so long as their extremist, anti-choice wing remains in control, but I may just start sitting out of elections entirely depending on who is running.
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