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Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an immigrant.

We had to pay and wait a very long time, while navigating the U.S. immigration system, legally.

It makes me irate that millions of others try to scam the system and cheat by jumping in line through coming here illegally.

They just have to go back.

But many of those being targeted did follow the rules. They applied for asylum and attended all their check in appointments. They work. They pay taxes. They follow the laws.

Others are simply desperate for a better life. Not what you or I consider a better life but to have the absolute basics. They deserve to live free of fear. All people do.

I have a SIL who did it all legally and it took years. But she was coming to the US from the UK. She wasn’t escaping anything. It’s a totally different story. And she recognizes that and shows compassion for immigrants who weren’t as lucky.

No, they DID NOT follow the rules.

They knowingly broke the law to illegally enter the U.S.

Only after breaking in, did they apply for asylum here. The overwhelming majority of asylum claims filed in the USA are bogus and are denied. That is not following the rules at all.

Yes true. And another thing to mention, I was in traffic court recently and a lot of people who were driving erratically or pulled over and found without a driver's license. They did not possess one at all and they were just asked by the judge if they needed a translator because they didn't speak English and there were a lot of those at the court that day and the judge asked them if they could get their driver's license and he could waive the charge or they could pay the fine and they all opted to pay the fine because they knew they couldn't get a driver's license.

Yea well you wouldn’t have had to see any of that if you opened the traffic laws and
stayed out of traffic court yourself.

I was accompanying my older legal Hispanic law abiding relative to traffic court not for myself. But thanks for your snark.

Your law abiding relative isn’t very law abiding apparently. Careful now. They may end up having their citizenship revoked.

Anonymous wrote:I'll add that our legal immigration system does not meet the needs of our economic system or our country. Native born people are not having enough babies and are not willing to work the jobs that immigrants work. It's not because of low wages. It's because those jobs are really tough. There will always be economic demand for low skilled labor and more and more as birth rates go down among all groups. And frankly, employers love the current system because keeping their workers undocumented makes it easier to exploit them.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the children of legal immigrants. My parents worked hard to follow all the rules and came here to fill a need for workers in which there was a shortage. They worked in healthcare their whole careers.

I understand people want to have better lives but they need to do it legally. They can't just come here expecting us to take them. I understand exceptions for refugees in specific cases but we don't have the resources for all the undocumented. There is a need for borders and allowing for the people here to have access to the resources they need. We can't help everyone. There is a huge strain for housing, healthcare, etc and native born people have trouble getting access as well. Immigration should be for those people in which we have a need for workers like farms and childcare.

Again, you don’t understand how the current immigration system works. For most people there is no way as a practical matter to come here legally and remain here. Your parents’ experience is not relevant to today.

Nothing worse than strivers who get off on pulling up the ladder behind them.

Your POV is based on the idea that people that want to come here and stay here should be allowed to if they want to.

People enter legally with visas and down the.road become citizens all the time.

No, they don’t. Not legally at least. They come here on tourist visas or student visas and don’t leave. It’s illegal. You simply have no idea what you’re talking about. It is virtually impossible for the vast majority of the undocumented immigrants who we are seeing in this country to come here legally and gain citizenship or permanent legal status.

Yes, for those that are undocumented it probably is virtually impossible. That doesn't mean they have the right to be here and come just because they want to.

We’re talking in circles. The point is that the “get in line and do it legal” is bullshit. There is no legal way for most people.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the children of legal immigrants. My parents worked hard to follow all the rules and came here to fill a need for workers in which there was a shortage. They worked in healthcare their whole careers.

I understand people want to have better lives but they need to do it legally. They can't just come here expecting us to take them. I understand exceptions for refugees in specific cases but we don't have the resources for all the undocumented. There is a need for borders and allowing for the people here to have access to the resources they need. We can't help everyone. There is a huge strain for housing, healthcare, etc and native born people have trouble getting access as well. Immigration should be for those people in which we have a need for workers like farms and childcare.

Again, you don’t understand how the current immigration system works. For most people there is no way as a practical matter to come here legally and remain here. Your parents’ experience is not relevant to today.

Nothing worse than strivers who get off on pulling up the ladder behind them.

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I am an immigrant, now a US citizen. I am not for unchecked illegal immigration. The USA has rules and laws and think they should be followed. Today I can’t go and live in another country, work and expect to stay there forever. I need to follow foreign countries laws and rules to immigrate.

I see a lot of people say that these immigrants are seeking asylum. I think the definition for asylum seekers needs to be clarified, tightened down.

I go to a Hispanic church and 70% of them are here illegally. I would never turn them in, ever. Most of them are looking for “asylum” but it’s just a way to get into the country. Can’t speak for everyone by so many return every year for a vacation.