Undocumented

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Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.
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Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an immigrant.

We had to pay and wait a very long time, while navigating the U.S. immigration system, legally.

It makes me irate that millions of others try to scam the system and cheat by jumping in line through coming here illegally.

They just have to go back.


But many of those being targeted did follow the rules. They applied for asylum and attended all their check in appointments. They work. They pay taxes. They follow the laws.

Others are simply desperate for a better life. Not what you or I consider a better life but to have the absolute basics. They deserve to live free of fear. All people do.

I have a SIL who did it all legally and it took years. But she was coming to the US from the UK. She wasn’t escaping anything. It’s a totally different story. And she recognizes that and shows compassion for immigrants who weren’t as lucky.


No, they DID NOT follow the rules.

They knowingly broke the law to illegally enter the U.S.

Only after breaking in, did they apply for asylum here. The overwhelming majority of asylum claims filed in the USA are bogus and are denied. That is not following the rules at all.


Yes true. And another thing to mention, I was in traffic court recently and a lot of people who were driving erratically or pulled over and found without a driver's license. They did not possess one at all and they were just asked by the judge if they needed a translator because they didn't speak English and there were a lot of those at the court that day and the judge asked them if they could get their driver's license and he could waive the charge or they could pay the fine and they all opted to pay the fine because they knew they couldn't get a driver's license.


Yea well you wouldn’t have had to see any of that if you opened the traffic laws and
stayed out of traffic court yourself.


I was accompanying my older legal Hispanic law abiding relative to traffic court not for myself. But thanks for your snark.


Your law abiding relative isn’t very law abiding apparently. Careful now. They may end up having their citizenship revoked.


Sure, this is the first time in her 45 years of driving in the United States that she has had something like this occur. I'm sure your kind does not even look both ways before crossing the street.


Well, with her on the road I’ll start looking now!


Like you ever looked. Too bad we can't deport people like you
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Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you
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Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an immigrant.

We had to pay and wait a very long time, while navigating the U.S. immigration system, legally.

It makes me irate that millions of others try to scam the system and cheat by jumping in line through coming here illegally.

They just have to go back.


But many of those being targeted did follow the rules. They applied for asylum and attended all their check in appointments. They work. They pay taxes. They follow the laws.

Others are simply desperate for a better life. Not what you or I consider a better life but to have the absolute basics. They deserve to live free of fear. All people do.

I have a SIL who did it all legally and it took years. But she was coming to the US from the UK. She wasn’t escaping anything. It’s a totally different story. And she recognizes that and shows compassion for immigrants who weren’t as lucky.


No, they DID NOT follow the rules.

They knowingly broke the law to illegally enter the U.S.

Only after breaking in, did they apply for asylum here. The overwhelming majority of asylum claims filed in the USA are bogus and are denied. That is not following the rules at all.


Yes true. And another thing to mention, I was in traffic court recently and a lot of people who were driving erratically or pulled over and found without a driver's license. They did not possess one at all and they were just asked by the judge if they needed a translator because they didn't speak English and there were a lot of those at the court that day and the judge asked them if they could get their driver's license and he could waive the charge or they could pay the fine and they all opted to pay the fine because they knew they couldn't get a driver's license.


Yea well you wouldn’t have had to see any of that if you opened the traffic laws and
stayed out of traffic court yourself.


I was accompanying my older legal Hispanic law abiding relative to traffic court not for myself. But thanks for your snark.


Your law abiding relative isn’t very law abiding apparently. Careful now. They may end up having their citizenship revoked.


Sure, this is the first time in her 45 years of driving in the United States that she has had something like this occur. I'm sure your kind does not even look both ways before crossing the street.


Well, with her on the road I’ll start looking now!


Like you ever looked. Too bad we can't deport people like you


She’ll be thrown out before me. And that’s what you voted for.
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Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you


You mean the big bad Hispanic people? Racist piece of shit.
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Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an immigrant.

We had to pay and wait a very long time, while navigating the U.S. immigration system, legally.

It makes me irate that millions of others try to scam the system and cheat by jumping in line through coming here illegally.

They just have to go back.


But many of those being targeted did follow the rules. They applied for asylum and attended all their check in appointments. They work. They pay taxes. They follow the laws.

Others are simply desperate for a better life. Not what you or I consider a better life but to have the absolute basics. They deserve to live free of fear. All people do.

I have a SIL who did it all legally and it took years. But she was coming to the US from the UK. She wasn’t escaping anything. It’s a totally different story. And she recognizes that and shows compassion for immigrants who weren’t as lucky.


No, they DID NOT follow the rules.

They knowingly broke the law to illegally enter the U.S.

Only after breaking in, did they apply for asylum here. The overwhelming majority of asylum claims filed in the USA are bogus and are denied. That is not following the rules at all.


Yes true. And another thing to mention, I was in traffic court recently and a lot of people who were driving erratically or pulled over and found without a driver's license. They did not possess one at all and they were just asked by the judge if they needed a translator because they didn't speak English and there were a lot of those at the court that day and the judge asked them if they could get their driver's license and he could waive the charge or they could pay the fine and they all opted to pay the fine because they knew they couldn't get a driver's license.


Yea well you wouldn’t have had to see any of that if you opened the traffic laws and
stayed out of traffic court yourself.


I was accompanying my older legal Hispanic law abiding relative to traffic court not for myself. But thanks for your snark.


Your law abiding relative isn’t very law abiding apparently. Careful now. They may end up having their citizenship revoked.


Sure, this is the first time in her 45 years of driving in the United States that she has had something like this occur. I'm sure your kind does not even look both ways before crossing the street.


Well, with her on the road I’ll start looking now!


Like you ever looked. Too bad we can't deport people like you


She’ll be thrown out before me. And that’s what you voted for.


Uh huh fortunately it doesn't matter because she came legally here and she has already been through the ice raids in the 70s and 80s. She's from generational wealth but I'm sure your kind classes all Hispanics the same. Very familiar with your kind here
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you


You mean the big bad Hispanic people? Racist piece of shit.

So that means you're open to living there?? I am Hispanic and would not live there
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you


You mean the big bad Hispanic people? Racist piece of shit.

So that means you're open to living there?? I am Hispanic and would not live there


You’re a disgrace to Hispanics. That’s what you are.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you


You mean the big bad Hispanic people? Racist piece of shit.

So that means you're open to living there?? I am Hispanic and would not live there


You’re a disgrace to Hispanics. That’s what you are.


Because I won't live in Venezuela or Cuba. How does that even make sense? But you said you would live there so you're saying you're not a disgrace?
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you


You mean the big bad Hispanic people? Racist piece of shit.

So that means you're open to living there?? I am Hispanic and would not live there


You’re a disgrace to Hispanics. That’s what you are.


Because I won't live in Venezuela or Cuba. How does that even make sense? But you said you would live there so you're saying you're not a disgrace?


I’m done with you. I have no time for haters. Go take a drive with you terrible old lady relative and if we’re lucky she’ll drive you off a cliff.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.


Matthew 25:40 of the King James Version of the Bible, Jesus states

"Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Treating everyone with dignity and respect costs nothing.


I’m an atheist and anyone here illegally needs to go.


Agree. There's no other way around it. People are not vetted thoroughly. Too much scum. There are a lot of good law abiding Hispanics but unfortunately they never stay but leave eventually by their own choice.


Ok, Donald.


I'm sure you would be much happier in Venezuela or Cuba. More people like you


You mean the big bad Hispanic people? Racist piece of shit.

So that means you're open to living there?? I am Hispanic and would not live there


You’re a disgrace to Hispanics. That’s what you are.


Because I won't live in Venezuela or Cuba. How does that even make sense? But you said you would live there so you're saying you're not a disgrace?


I’m done with you. I have no time for haters. Go take a drive with you terrible old lady relative and if we’re lucky she’ll drive you off a cliff.


You have no time for haters yet. You sound like a hater. You make no sense. And on top of that you say your law abiding yet you wish for unlawful things. You're confused lady like most people in this area.
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I’m not sure if my comment was deleted or if it never posted.

I am an immigrant, now a US citizen. I am not for unchecked illegal immigration. The USA has rules and laws and think they should be followed. Today I can’t go and live in another country, work and expect to stay there forever. I need to follow foreign countries laws and rules to immigrate.

I see a lot of people say that these immigrants are seeking asylum. I think the definition for asylum seekers needs to be clarified, tightened down.

I go to a Hispanic church and 70% of them are here illegally. I would never turn them in, ever. Most of them are looking for “asylum” but it’s just a way to get into the country. Can’t speak for everyone by so many return every year for a vacation.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like the Democratic Party is the OP

I have several undocumented acquaintances. They are hard working reliable trustworthy people. But I recognize in admitting them we’ve effectively created a lower class that serves upper class Americans and screws low wage workers whose wages and rights are undercut. Also the remittance economy we’ve enabled in several immigrant countries is not healthy or sustainable. It’s a dysfunctional system mostly that benefits wealthy Americans.

I think the Dignity Act is a reasonable start. But we need to make it impossible to work under the table in the US. We need to stop economic migration. Otherwise we continue to erode and undermine the lower and middle class.



This is an important piece of the problem in this country is this is part of what pushes the lower class to the right. It undermines the heart of our country.
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Anonymous wrote:I am the children of legal immigrants. My parents worked hard to follow all the rules and came here to fill a need for workers in which there was a shortage. They worked in healthcare their whole careers.

I understand people want to have better lives but they need to do it legally. They can't just come here expecting us to take them. I understand exceptions for refugees in specific cases but we don't have the resources for all the undocumented. There is a need for borders and allowing for the people here to have access to the resources they need. We can't help everyone. There is a huge strain for housing, healthcare, etc and native born people have trouble getting access as well. Immigration should be for those people in which we have a need for workers like farms and childcare.


Let me guess Indian? Different nationalities have very different experiences. H1B to citizen is a different path.

I will tell you this though, the people going after undocumented immigrants do not want you or their parents here either. Why do you think Trump keeps going after birthright citizenship and threatening to de naturalize people.



What sort of judgy (and kinda racist) cultural generalization is that?!?


I'm confused by that comment myself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am glad they are here. They are the future of our country. To quote noted do-gooder Cher Horowitz, “may I please remind you it does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty.”


This country is very different from what it was in the 1800s. The number of undocumented persons almost destroyed California. Don't lie to yourself, it affects infrastructure, health, everything.
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