Undocumented

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Above- have you looked at a map of El Salvador? See how many countries are between the US and El Salvador? And he didn’t escape to any of them but kept on going until he reached the US?
Do you know why?
Money.

True, they came through an open border for the free room and board in NY hotels, free cell phones and pre-loaded credit cards. Excellent policies.

They did not stay in any countries between El Salvador and the US because they would not have been allowed to do so. They would have been deported.

That's because those countries are full of racists that want to flee to America.

[Anonymous]

It’s understandable why they come, and for most of them they are probably just decent people who are seeking a better life. They should be treated humanely, of course, but they have to go back. Our society cannot assimilate immigrants at these levels.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really do not understand how people cannot care when other people are treated cruelly.

Picture someone you care about. Now picture them in a prison cell with many others being tortured, not being fed properly. And imagine if hearing about this, your coworkers and friends laughed and joked that they were food for alligators. And what did you friend do to deserve this? Nothing beyond trying to survive.

Except no one is being tortured or underfed, so you have a problem. There are jokes about alligators though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really do not understand how people cannot care when other people are treated cruelly.

Picture someone you care about. Now picture them in a prison cell with many others being tortured, not being fed properly. And imagine if hearing about this, your coworkers and friends laughed and joked that they were food for alligators. And what did you friend do to deserve this? Nothing beyond trying to survive.

How are they being tortured? I don’t think they are getting due process and I think that is 100% not ok. I don’t want the hard working people in restaurants, farms, construction, etc deported for no reason. They don’t really pay taxes and it’s a massive problem for our health care system and schools.

People not getting due process are those deemed to be national security risks (gang members). Otherwise, people convicted of crimes received due process and people with outstanding deportation orders received due process. I do believe that people who overstay visas can be automatically deported as well because they misrepresented their stay to the government. None of these cases deserve sympathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.

Should I care about fake christians who allow their leadership sexusally abuses children for years?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an immigrant.

We had to pay and wait a very long time, while navigating the U.S. immigration system, legally.

It makes me irate that millions of others try to scam the system and cheat by jumping in line through coming here illegally.

They just have to go back.

You’re the WORST. There is no “line,” moron. Your husband was able to become a citizen for the sole reason that he married YOU. Maybe that’s why he did it? Ever ask yourself that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the children of legal immigrants. My parents worked hard to follow all the rules and came here to fill a need for workers in which there was a shortage. They worked in healthcare their whole careers.

I understand people want to have better lives but they need to do it legally. They can't just come here expecting us to take them. I understand exceptions for refugees in specific cases but we don't have the resources for all the undocumented. There is a need for borders and allowing for the people here to have access to the resources they need. We can't help everyone. There is a huge strain for housing, healthcare, etc and native born people have trouble getting access as well. Immigration should be for those people in which we have a need for workers like farms and childcare.

Again, you don’t understand how the current immigration system works. For most people there is no way as a practical matter to come here legally and remain here. Your parents’ experience is not relevant to today.

Nothing worse than strivers who get off on pulling up the ladder behind them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My spouse is an immigrant.

We had to pay and wait a very long time, while navigating the U.S. immigration system, legally.

It makes me irate that millions of others try to scam the system and cheat by jumping in line through coming here illegally.

They just have to go back.

Do you think those people are living cushy lives without the right papers? Do you think they are working in nice white collar jobs getting decent wages? Would you like to switch places with them, since you think they didn't have to wait?

-signed another legal immigrant married to another legal immigrant.

I would rather wait years to do it legally and not live in fear of deportation than jump the line and be here illegally working low wage jobs, with no social security coming my way when I retire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the children of legal immigrants. My parents worked hard to follow all the rules and came here to fill a need for workers in which there was a shortage. They worked in healthcare their whole careers.

I understand people want to have better lives but they need to do it legally. They can't just come here expecting us to take them. I understand exceptions for refugees in specific cases but we don't have the resources for all the undocumented. There is a need for borders and allowing for the people here to have access to the resources they need. We can't help everyone. There is a huge strain for housing, healthcare, etc and native born people have trouble getting access as well. Immigration should be for those people in which we have a need for workers like farms and childcare.

Again, you don’t understand how the current immigration system works. For most people there is no way as a practical matter to come here legally and remain here. Your parents’ experience is not relevant to today.

Nothing worse than strivers who get off on pulling up the ladder behind them.

Too bad, don't be surprised when we kick you out then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel awful for them from a simply human point. Being torn away from their homes and family, some being forced to live in absolute awful conditions. I don't know how you can't feel bad even if you don't necessarily agree with undocumented people.

We have a family friend who went through a ton to immigrate here and eventually bring over her family. She absolutely hates undocumented people for cheating the system

I don't feel awful for them.
Being undocumented is a calculated risk.
No one forced them here. It was voluntary and they knew they were flouting the laws.
I feel awful for the kids who had no choice. The judgment is on the parents who put risk on the whole family.

I don't understand why everyone talks about the undocumented as if they had no agency in this matter, infantilizing them in effect.
These are adults who well understood the decision and gamble they were undertaking.

Many years ago I was talking to a handyman I hired. He probably wasn’t that much older than I was at the time. He was from el Salvador and told me that there was a war there and he and his dad would have to go and remove dead bodies from in front of his house or they’d just sit there and rot. It was unfathomable to me. He didn’t just come here for the fun of it.

+1

If there were a civil war in the US, and our kids tried to flee, they would be undocumented.

If there was another civil war in the US, my kids would be making certain your kids fled the country and won’t be coming back. Because you will have started that war, and we are going to punish your children for your starting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the children of legal immigrants. My parents worked hard to follow all the rules and came here to fill a need for workers in which there was a shortage. They worked in healthcare their whole careers.

I understand people want to have better lives but they need to do it legally. They can't just come here expecting us to take them. I understand exceptions for refugees in specific cases but we don't have the resources for all the undocumented. There is a need for borders and allowing for the people here to have access to the resources they need. We can't help everyone. There is a huge strain for housing, healthcare, etc and native born people have trouble getting access as well. Immigration should be for those people in which we have a need for workers like farms and childcare.

Again, you don’t understand how the current immigration system works. For most people there is no way as a practical matter to come here legally and remain here. Your parents’ experience is not relevant to today.

Nothing worse than strivers who get off on pulling up the ladder behind them.

Too bad, don't be surprised when we kick you out then.

Not the ones I know. I’ll hide them and you’ll never find them, you Nazi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should I care about the undocumented immigrants in this country? I’m a little confused about it all.

What are you confused about?

They contribute to the do in a huge way. Most are not criminals like by 98 or more percent. They pick your food wool in chicken and beef plants do jobs you don’t want your kids doing for little pay and no benefits

Of course people should come here legally how’re our system sucks

Go on maga let your little white sons work for pennies on the dollar with no benefits and no injury protect project 2025 and your daughters be raped by old white guys

OP you started this I will finish it

Melania should go back to the hell she came from Einstein Visa BS

Amazing his white immigrants are not being targeted only brown maga fools cannot wait for your daughters to be married by age ten and breeding for Stephen Miller and Betsey Devos you do know they have started building maternity homes Iowa and Idaho and Oklahoma ? Over course you don’t know you haven’t read project 2025

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really do not understand how people cannot care when other people are treated cruelly.

Picture someone you care about. Now picture them in a prison cell with many others being tortured, not being fed properly. And imagine if hearing about this, your coworkers and friends laughed and joked that they were food for alligators. And what did you friend do to deserve this? Nothing beyond trying to survive.

Except no one is being tortured or underfed, so you have a problem. There are jokes about alligators though.

Yes, they are. Read the news. There are reports of only getting one or two meals per day, no showers or privacy when using the bathroom.

And yes, they are being beaten in those prisons.

https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/g-s1-75775/abrego-garcia-el-salvador-prison-beaten-torture

https://www.wral.com/story/it-was-a-nightmare-venezuelans-deported-from-us-describe-conditions-in-salvadoran-prison/22095624/

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/05/nx-s1-5413364/concerns-over-conditions-in-u-s-immigration-detention-were-hearing-the-word-starving

"I had a client who was at Krome," says Miami based lawyer Jeff Botelho, who adds the client recently told him that "they had been sleeping on the floor for a week or two. For food, he said they were given a cup of rice and a glass of water a day. It was very concerning."

I'm sure you would say, "That's their fault for coming here illegally", right? Yes, they shouldn't have come illegally, that doesn't mean that the US government, or the American people should only give them a cup of rice a day. I guess you and Trump are no better than 3rd world despots.

[Anonymous]

What I find so interesting is that so many people will ask “why can’t they do it legally?”

If it were that easy there wouldn’t be so many people going through such desperate measures to get here.

People just don’t understand the immigration system.

[Anonymous]

Last time there was unchecked migration to North America the native populations were decimated and those that remained placed on reservations.

Do you all not expect history to repeat itself. Especially since today’s immigrants are not the best and brightest of their homeland.

Glad to see a restoration of US borders and the deportation of undesirable immigrants.