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Anonymous wrote:I believe that was a misfired Hamas rocket that hit Al-Shifa hospital.

IDF denied it but the NBC journalist who witnessed it said it was an idf drone
Israel just bombed the biggest hospital in Gaza, Al-Shifa hospital
And did you know that in the last hour, there was a new Massacre at the first day of Eid, more than 50 children were playing in a park west of Gaza when the F16s targeted them.10 children killed in one strike."TEN INNOCENT CHILDREN! Who will not celebrate Eid
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Muslima wrote:Allah says in Qur'an that they neither killed him nor crucified him, but it was made to appear so unto them.

Surah 4, Verses 157 & 158:

 

“and their saying : we killed Christ Jesus, son of Mary, The messenger of Allah - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so; and those who disagree concerning it are full of doubts; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; For surely they killed him not; but Allah took him up unto Himself; and Allah is ever mighty, wise.”

From the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), we get a more detailed account. The Muslim belief is that Allah changed the face of the person who betrayed Jesus, showing to the rulers the place where he was hiding, into a face resembling Jesus. So, they crucified that betrayer instead of Jesus and thought they killed him but that wasnt Jesus, he was already elevated to the heavens

The Quran says about God:
Say, He is the One and Only
   Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 
  He begetteth not nor is He begotten. 
  And there is none like unto Him.
                         
So in the islamic tradition, we consider Jesus as a miracle of God but a human, he is not a God or son of God. We consider ALLAH to be unique. Jesus peace be upon him is in the heavens right now elevated to Allah, he will come back on earth at the end of times





Thanks for posting! Another reminder that I really, REALLY need to read the Qur'an.
Signed, A Christian


You're welcome. Jesus, son of Mary, peace be upon him is one of the beloved prophets of Islam. We love him very much and there are only 4 perfect women till the end of times, and one of them is Mary, mother of Jesus, she is one of the most beloved to Allah.
The return of Jesus will occur AFTER the Anti-Christ (known in Islam as the Dajjal, meaning the Deceiver who claims to be God) appears and attempts to deceive people into worshipping him. Then, Jesus (the Messiah)will descend from Heaven, pursue and kill the Anti-Christ, and destroy the savage and unbelieving armies of Gog and Magog, and bring peace and brotherhood to the World.

Christians will accept Jesus as a Muslim Prophet and Messenger of God. . There will be no more oppression  or wars, and peace will Every human being will be financially well-off and no one will accept charity. Jesus will perform Hajj (pilgrimage), marry, begets children, and die after living on Earth.(Remember, we don't believe he was killed on the cross, so he has to die because every soul shall taste death, God is the only immortal ) His death will signal the beginning of the last days for humanity before the Day of Judgment.

 
And I tell you again , you are wrong. I just came from the Eid prayer and trust me , the imam and the people there don't care. You can believe what you want to believe, that doesn't make it true. Yes I believe I would know more about what Sunnis believe since I have been one my entire life, just like a buddhist would know more about Budda than I do. The shias are our brothers in faith, though we don't agree with some of their practices and this is the MAJORITY sunni belief. As Muslims, we all follow one book , the Quran and there's no mention of shias or sunnis in it. The divisions are political but for you to make it a Sunni ideology shows a lot of misunderstanding of Islam regardless of whether you speak arabic or not.
I think that's what comes with anonymity. Most of these people wouldn't be this nasty in real life, so don't let that deter you from participating. Welcome
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Muslima wrote:
Not true. I have been Muslim all of my life, I am a sunni and 90% of the Muslims i know are Sunnis and we don't go around wishing death to the Shi'a. Yes there are Sunni/Shia conflicts around the world but those are in very specific areas and very politicized , religion is really secondary in those conflicts even though people use religion's name most of the time to justify their actions.

I am sure you don't, and this is not about individual attitudes of Sunnis to Shias. Yes, it is political, but the whole Sunni/Shia split was political and has since been enshrined in the mainstream Sunni ideology, which serves to cement the dominant position of Sunnis over the Muslim "community", whatever that means (and it honestly means nothing in the absence of external enemy). Saudi textbooks, which AlSaud's money has spread around the world as the chapter-and-verse of true Islam refers to Shia blood and property as halal to kill and take over. Of course the conflict in Iraq is about political power but that feeling of entitlement to domination both politically and economically is very much a part of mainstream Sunni discourse bolstered by the ideology. If you don't know this, you simply haven't read it, which is OK, but don't say it doesn't exist.

Lol. You really think you know what sunnis believe more than I do because of what you think you learn or read or saw? I live this religion, I don't just watch it in the news or listen to debates about it. I will say it again, Sunnis don't wake up thinking "jeez , what are we going to do about shias today" the same way catholics don't wake up thinking about protestants .There is 1.6 Billion of Muslims in the world, the majority being sunni, and they are not exporting their vision of Islam anywhere, nor are they fighting around the world about who is who or believe in what. Saudi arabia has a branch of wahadism that teaches what you re referring to. But let me tell you that this is no way the majority Sunni beliefs or teachings. You don't hear 90% of the sunnis ever in the media, that should tell you something. The other conflicts that you're talking about are the minority who again because of political strategies, agendas export their own version of islam. But don't tell me that's what the Sunnis believe because that is definitely not true
Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to wish Muslima Eid Mubarak!


Thank you so much. I appreciate it. God bless you
Allah says in Qur'an that they neither killed him nor crucified him, but it was made to appear so unto them.

Surah 4, Verses 157 & 158:

 

“and their saying : we killed Christ Jesus, son of Mary, The messenger of Allah - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so; and those who disagree concerning it are full of doubts; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; For surely they killed him not; but Allah took him up unto Himself; and Allah is ever mighty, wise.”

From the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), we get a more detailed account. The Muslim belief is that Allah changed the face of the person who betrayed Jesus, showing to the rulers the place where he was hiding, into a face resembling Jesus. So, they crucified that betrayer instead of Jesus and thought they killed him but that wasnt Jesus, he was already elevated to the heavens

The Quran says about God:
Say, He is the One and Only
   Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; 
  He begetteth not nor is He begotten. 
  And there is none like unto Him.
                         
So in the islamic tradition, we consider Jesus as a miracle of God but a human, he is not a God or son of God. We consider ALLAH to be unique. Jesus peace be upon him is in the heavens right now elevated to Allah, he will come back on earth at the end of times



Anonymous wrote:Let us not forget our Muslim pals in Nigeria, Boko Haram. Muslima, how are they working to help the world?


That's another organization that needs to be stopped. I have cried over those girls, it has been 104 days and they have not been found.
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, did not the UN help to create Israel? So, I guess you believe in the sanctity of Israel's original borders as mandated by the UN? Do you recocognize Israel's right to exist?


You might want to read this http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/10/26/the-myth-of-the-u-n-creation-of-israel/ if you think the UN "created" Israel.


They question was Muslima, do you recognize Israel's right to exist? And I'll add another, is Hamas a terrorist organization?


I recognize Palestine's right to exist. I don't believe Hamas is a terrorist organization, they have a military wing that has done terrorist acts that I am against. I have said it many times here, I do not support everything Hamas does, but they are way more than their military wing. Fact : the UN doesn't recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization.
Anonymous wrote:They do profess to be Muslims. No other group in the world states their religion as a reason to kill....


So that makes it true?
Anonymous wrote:Religion is secondary in those conflicts?? Is that why they are slaughtering women and children in Iraq?


You think there is a religion in the world that profess the slaughter of women and children?
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Muslima wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why not get a little more worked up about what ISIS is doing in the Middle East?


They are all related. There are allegations made by Snowden that ISIS was created by the British, American intelligence and Mossad :

The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”.
NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet’s nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans.

According to documents released by Snowden, “The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state “is to create an enemy near its borders”.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593


I can tell you one thing about ISIS. All the Muslims that i know say that I SIS are clearly non-muslims and trained assassins to serve Zionism. This is the current discourse in Muslim communities. The main basis, is that we do not bomb mosques especially ones made in respect of a Prophet. We love and respect all Prophets. . We do not drive out people of other religions from our land and call out to annihilate them.


OK. I was with you when you discussed Palestine but you're very, very off the track here. If ALL the Muslims you know think ISIS is clearly non-Muslim, you must run in very rarified Muslim circles or you are a recent convert. Because the mainstream Sunni discourse has always had a "submit or die" attitude to Shia, and a "raze'em down" attitude to Shia mosques, shrines and sacred places. The term "rafidah" wasn't invented by Zionists. See what happened in Iraq, and what's happening in Pakistan now. The ideology of the caliphate wasn't invented by Zionists. For that, you can thank our good friend and ALLY Mr. Abdullah Al-Saud and all his predecessors who fueled the Wahhabi filth and fanned it all over the world with petrodollars. Let's call things by their proper names.


Not true. I have been Muslim all of my life, I am a sunni and 90% of the Muslims i know are Sunnis and we don't go around wishing death to the Shi'a. Yes there are Sunni/Shia conflicts around the world but those are in very specific areas and very politicized , religion is really secondary in those conflicts even though people use religion's name most of the time to justify their actions.
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