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Anonymous wrote:I am Jewish and pro-Israel. I fully support a two-state solution, but feel as though Hamas doesn't support this as they do not acknowledge Israel's right to exist. That being sad, even though I am pro-Israel, any news of a civilian death (especially a child) is heartbreaking. No Jewish person I know rejoices to hear an innocent Palestinian is killed and I can't imagine how terrible life is in Gaza right now. I just don't know what better options Israel has.

Very simple, stop the illegal occupation and give people back their land. It is not rocket science....


Since it's very simple, what land are you suggesting should be given back?


The entire land that wasn't theirs to begin with. There is only one solution : A one state solution. I will repeat what I said yesterday. Palestine/Israel is as unpartitionable as was South Africa and Northern Ireland, where similar ethnic conflicts had also defied resolution for generations. In both places, it was only when the dominant group dropped its insistence on supremacy that a political settlement could be reached. What was once unimaginable happened: Nelson Mandela's African National Congress and F.W. de Klerk's National Party joined hands in a national unity government in 1994. Leaders in Northern Ireland made similar progress .


And what do you see happening to the Israelis, their families and their homes? Wholesale evictions based on where someone claims their grandfather lived 60 years ago?

Do you think that's what happened in South Africa? Were White people evicted at the end of the Apartheid? We must begin to construct a vision of a nonracial, nonsectarian Palestine-Israel, which belongs to all the people who live in it, Israeli Jews, Palestinians, and all exiles who want to return and live in peace with their neighbors. Do you think Nelson Mandela would have been what he is today and South Africa what it is today, if they decided on a 2 state solutions asking all the Blacks to stay in SOWETO and giving the Whites the Best Part of the country? How many times in History do we have to go through this for people to understand that you can't come into someone's country, occupy it, terrorize them, push them into the most impoverished part and expect that they will just sit there peacefully and live happily ever after
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Anonymous wrote:The Palestinians are not the world's first dispossessed people, but they are the first to be asked to legitimize what happened to them.


OMG, there is nothing unique about their situation. The only thing unique about it is that they cannot tolerate living with, beside or in another country -- Israel. Can you imagine if people behaved this way when Pakistan was created, or any of the other countries that were created or dissolved in just the last 100 years? It's a ridiculous argument.


They are not living "with" or "beside" Israel, Israel is occupying their land and limiting their ability to live, even in Gaza.


Isn't that because of the actions of the Palestinians?


Please go educate yourself about this conflict before you start commenting....
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Anonymous wrote:I am Jewish and pro-Israel. I fully support a two-state solution, but feel as though Hamas doesn't support this as they do not acknowledge Israel's right to exist. That being sad, even though I am pro-Israel, any news of a civilian death (especially a child) is heartbreaking. No Jewish person I know rejoices to hear an innocent Palestinian is killed and I can't imagine how terrible life is in Gaza right now. I just don't know what better options Israel has.

Very simple, stop the illegal occupation and give people back their land. It is not rocket science....


Since it's very simple, what land are you suggesting should be given back?


The entire land that wasn't theirs to begin with. There is only one solution : A one state solution. I will repeat what I said yesterday. Palestine/Israel is as unpartitionable as was South Africa and Northern Ireland, where similar ethnic conflicts had also defied resolution for generations. In both places, it was only when the dominant group dropped its insistence on supremacy that a political settlement could be reached. What was once unimaginable happened: Nelson Mandela's African National Congress and F.W. de Klerk's National Party joined hands in a national unity government in 1994. Leaders in Northern Ireland made similar progress .
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Anonymous wrote:The Palestinians are not the world's first dispossessed people, but they are the first to be asked to legitimize what happened to them.


OMG, there is nothing unique about their situation. The only thing unique about it is that they cannot tolerate living with, beside or in another country -- Israel. Can you imagine if people behaved this way when Pakistan was created, or any of the other countries that were created or dissolved in just the last 100 years? It's a ridiculous argument.


For the Pakistan situation to be equivalent, the British would have had to promise the same land to the Hindus and Pakistanis. Then they would have had to divide the land up so that Muslims got half, and Hindus got half, despite the fact that Hindus outnumbered Muslims 10:1. This would have required the displacement of about 390 million Hindus from their homes instead of the modest 7 million Hindus.

So even given the more equitable division of India, they still had four wars: 47, 65, 71 and 99. They had decades of communal riots. Mahatma Gahndi was assassinated, and so was Indira Gandhi. Again to make the situation comparable today, India would be occupying Pakistan and Bangladesh. They would strictly control the goods and people going into and out of these two countries. And if Pakistanis did so much as throw rocks in protest, they would be considered terrorists.


Actually, it wasn't even 50.50 They allocate 56% of Palestine for a Jewish state when the Jews at the time only owned 6% of the land and formed 30% of the population.
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Interesting article : http://www.haaretz.com/general/the-country-that-wouldn-t-grow-up-1.186721

It would entail acknowledging that Israel no longer has any special claim upon international sympathy or indulgence; that the United States won't always be there; that weapons and walls can no more preserve Israel forever than they preserved the German Democratic Republic or white South Africa; that colonies are always doomed unless you are willing to expel or exterminate the indigenous population. Other countries and their leaders have understood this and managed comparable realignments: Charles De Gaulle realized that France's settlement in Algeria, which was far older and better established than Israel's West Bank colonies, was a military and moral disaster for his country. In an exercise of outstanding political courage, he acted upon that insight and withdrew. But when De Gaulle came to that realization he was a mature statesman, nearly 70 years old. Israel cannot afford to wait that long. At the age of 58 the time has come for it to grow up.
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