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Oh get off of your high horses. I pay as much taxes as you do if not more. I am against the terrorist state of Israel and against the blind support of the American government to the state of Israel and the fact that we contribute $3billion/year to the slaughter and dehumanization of a people. Now if that makes me Un-American and Anti-semetic in your world, so be it. That won't keep me up at night~
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/25/Reports-Massive-Terrorist-Invasion-of-Israel-Thwarted-by-Security-Forces
The IDF is reporting that 30 tunnels have been destroyed thus far and that captured members of Hamas are claiming there was to be a huge attack on Israel planned for the Jewish New Year.
I've always liked Aljazeera - http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/23/gaza-undergroundhamastunnels.html
Gaza’s underground: A vast tunnel network that empowers Hamas
However, much of the present combat will continue over the cross-border tunnels. Raw footage from Hamas released by The Associated Press shows Hamas fighters marching through a sophisticated tunnel. A video released by the IDF shows soldiers reportedly blowing up tunnels they discovered.
Another clip has troops explaining the operation, and pointing out some of the accommodations constructed by Hamas tunnel crews.
“Hamas wants to get a little something in terms of relief, letting goods and services flow," said Robert Hunter, former White House representative to Arab-Israeli peace talks. But, he added, "Israel probably won’t stop until they destroy most or all of the [attack] tunnels.”
Hamas marches through tunnels, what do you want them to do? March on Land? Go show themselves so that they can be all killed? Israelis use their jets to bomb Ghaza because they control the airspace, why don't they give up their jets and march through Ghaza on foot? It is really hypocritical to condemn Hamas's tunnels but don't even raise your finger at Israel's tanks, F-16S, Bombs, artillery, and what not. Of course Israel won't use tunnels to get through Ghaza, why the heck would they build tunnels? They have arms, armored vehicles, tanks, artillery, missiles, planes, helicopters, and warships. What does Hamas have?Not a single jet, not a single vehicle, they have ROCKETS. If you were hunted like a rat, you would build tunnels like the jews did in the warsaw ghetto. HAMAS need the Tunnels to SURVIVE. Once it was Nazis Leveling the Warsaw Ghetto, Now it’s Israel’s IDF Leveling Gaza. The irony!
Why haven't you gone back to fight with Hamas?
I thought you'd never ask. You think it's easy to go to Ghaza? Funny anecdote: Even Palestinians dont have the right to return.. Another funny anecdote, the UN doesn't consider Hamas a terrorist organization....Do I agree with everything Hamas does? Of Course Not, but then again, you probably never heard that Hamas runs preschools, youth clubs, and health clinics. It provides needy people with assistance, and even holds free weddings. It is that face of Hamas that many Palestinians see first.Hamas was created as an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brothers. In Gaza, it provided a network of social welfare institutions supporting the poor. During the first Palestinian Intifada, a Hamas resistance military wing was formed. That military wing is the one that attacks Israel and defends Ghaza, but really Hamas is much bigger than that!
From what country is your passport?
That is irrelevant to the present discussion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You just decide to stay ignorant, dont you? Following media propaganda, and thinking you understand something. We are in 2014 for crying out loud, information is everywhere, you have no excuse to stay ignorant. The tunnels were built to smuggle FOOD and Medicine because holly Israel controls everything in Ghaza and restricts food and medicine when and how they want. Imagine that you lived in an openair prison surrounded by security walls and even you can not enter medical supply, foods , and etc. . You are not allowed also get helps from other countries, because there is a blockade on your conutry.But hey believe whatever you want, oh the ignoramus!
Right. And you can't even spell Gaza correctly.
You fool, she's just transliterating the proper Arabic way to pronounce Gaza.
+1000
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/25/Reports-Massive-Terrorist-Invasion-of-Israel-Thwarted-by-Security-Forces
The IDF is reporting that 30 tunnels have been destroyed thus far and that captured members of Hamas are claiming there was to be a huge attack on Israel planned for the Jewish New Year.
I've always liked Aljazeera - http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/23/gaza-undergroundhamastunnels.html
Gaza’s underground: A vast tunnel network that empowers Hamas
However, much of the present combat will continue over the cross-border tunnels. Raw footage from Hamas released by The Associated Press shows Hamas fighters marching through a sophisticated tunnel. A video released by the IDF shows soldiers reportedly blowing up tunnels they discovered.
Another clip has troops explaining the operation, and pointing out some of the accommodations constructed by Hamas tunnel crews.
“Hamas wants to get a little something in terms of relief, letting goods and services flow," said Robert Hunter, former White House representative to Arab-Israeli peace talks. But, he added, "Israel probably won’t stop until they destroy most or all of the [attack] tunnels.”
Hamas marches through tunnels, what do you want them to do? March on Land? Go show themselves so that they can be all killed? Israelis use their jets to bomb Ghaza because they control the airspace, why don't they give up their jets and march through Ghaza on foot? It is really hypocritical to condemn Hamas's tunnels but don't even raise your finger at Israel's tanks, F-16S, Bombs, artillery, and what not. Of course Israel won't use tunnels to get through Ghaza, why the heck would they build tunnels? They have arms, armored vehicles, tanks, artillery, missiles, planes, helicopters, and warships. What does Hamas have?Not a single jet, not a single vehicle, they have ROCKETS. If you were hunted like a rat, you would build tunnels like the jews did in the warsaw ghetto. HAMAS need the Tunnels to SURVIVE. Once it was Nazis Leveling the Warsaw Ghetto, Now it’s Israel’s IDF Leveling Gaza. The irony!
Why haven't you gone back to fight with Hamas?
I thought you'd never ask. You think it's easy to go to Ghaza? Funny anecdote: Even Palestinians dont have the right to return.. Another funny anecdote, the UN doesn't consider Hamas a terrorist organization....Do I agree with everything Hamas does? Of Course Not, but then again, you probably never heard that Hamas runs preschools, youth clubs, and health clinics. It provides needy people with assistance, and even holds free weddings. It is that face of Hamas that many Palestinians see first.Hamas was created as an offshoot of the Egyptian Muslim Brothers. In Gaza, it provided a network of social welfare institutions supporting the poor. During the first Palestinian Intifada, a Hamas resistance military wing was formed. That military wing is the one that attacks Israel and defends Ghaza, but really Hamas is much bigger than that!
Anonymous wrote:OP you are muslim. Get some muslim friends and leave those jewish friends alone. There is a chance they would not be your friends if they knew you were muslim. They probably do know you are, but as part of their game are teasing you with their opinions
Why are you saying this? Do you think Muslims & Jews can't be friends?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:apparently not. Two people not under the direction of Hamas killed three youth. Instead if treating it as a triple homicide, they started bulldozing houses, rounding up civilians by the hundreds and killing people.Anonymous wrote:But Hamas started this particular fight. And is losing ...
Incorrect. According to Wikipedia, the operation began after Hamas launched a higher than usual number of missiles at Israel.
Incorrect. According to Wikipedia "An escalation of the Gaza-Israel conflict occurred mid-May 2014 following a series of events."
Here is a description of those events:
"On May 15 two unarmed Palestinian teenagers were killed by the IDF and eight civilians wounded during commemorations of Nakba day. On May 20 video evidence became available showing that the tenagers were posing no threat at the time.[73] The US called for an inquiry. The IDF reported that “live fire” had not been used, a claim refuted by B’Tselem based on bullets obtained from one of the victims’ backpacks. On May 22, as Michael Oren (former Israeli ambassador to the US) suggested on CNN that the boys may not be dead, the UN released a report of a sharp increase in Palestinian casualties over recent periods.[74] On June 9 the body of one of the teens, Nadim Numara, was exhumed and an autopsy performed which found that a live bullet had killed the teenager."
Thank you for sharing this. Everyone talks about the slain 3 jewish teenagers, forgetting about the teens who were killed in May~
Anonymous wrote:A one state solution will NEVER work. A two state is the only viable option but admittedly it is a monstrous undertaking which will required tremendous overseeing by the international community.
Why a one state will not work? Because in no time it would be predominately Arab who would have zero tolerance for an Israeli neighbor and certainly they would not hold office not receiving the popular vote. It has ZERO chance of happening.
I don't agree. South Africa is 8% White,and 80% Black. I am pretty sure Blacks did not chase the 8% out of the country after the end of Apartheid. With the 2 sate solution, you would be creating separate, ethnically homogenous states for the colonizing society, on the one hand, and for the victims of the colonization, on the other ,along the lines of apartheid South Africa's Bantustan system, history has shown that this has failed. And Palestinians will never accept this...By isolating and alienating they see each other as enemies. A one state solution could help them revise their views.One person...one vote Israel has made it impossible for two states. Anyone who has gone to the occupied territories already knows that. Right now, Israel is an Apartheid state where occupied Palestinians have no say in the people controlling their destiny. The only way this horrid occupation is going to be stopped is for all people n Palestine/Israel to join together in one state for everyone. Also note that when David Ben-Gurion declared Israel’s independence in 1948, the Jews were not a majority west of the Jordan River. Demographics in this region change rapidly and often, especially with the ingathering of the Jews still in full swing.
It's been done in Germany. It's been done in South Africa. There is no reason why the Jews, Christians and Muslims can't learn how to share the sandbox
Read a book? 
New York ~
He is very charismatic
Its like as if a tsunami has hit Shujae'ya; The geographical looks of the neighbourhood have changed; No houses are left; everything is destroyed! Most people didn't distinguish their homes, They didn't know where they used to live because everything for them looks the same; There were lots of burt and decomposed bodies, people looking for the rest of their families, everyone is on a rush before they change their minds about the ceasefire and start shooting again.. Shujaeya has turned into nothing; nothing , just empty! nothing
Watch Shujaeya on TVs. its totaly tragic, the biggest neigbourhood in Gaza doesn't exist any more; Shujaeya is totaly wiped out..
Shujaeya was in Gaza.
Watch Shujaeya on TVs. its totaly tragic, the biggest neigbourhood in Gaza doesn't exist any more; Shujaeya is totaly wiped out..
Shujaeya was in Gaza.
I can totally believe this.1000+ souls have been plucked in Gaza by the israeli killing machines within 20 days of the continuous aggression against civilian Gazans...! This is so incredibly sad. During the first 4 hours of the ceasefire, more than 40 bodies were found in khuzaa, and the medics are still searching for more..Unbelievable destruction in Alshojaeya and Biet-Hanoon, houses burnt and destroyed and bodies were found in the streets.. Khuzaa isn't included in the truce; medics and civil services crews aren't allowed to get inside the area.. But nobody is reporting this, people just think there is a ceasefire so all is calm now. It doesn't work that way in Palestine 
People are killed in an inhumane way .. then they ask for a humanitarian truce ..
People are killed in an inhumane way .. then they ask for a humanitarian truce ..
I don't think there should be a "typical look'' for a religion. However, as you have noticed a lot of people like to judge and discriminate based on how you look or what they think you should look/do. You should just ignore them and teach your kids that they are an integral part of that faith and make them feel as comfortable as can be so that they grow up with a tough skin and feeling part of the religion even if they look "different", or maybe find other members who look like them so they don't feel so alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/25/Reports-Massive-Terrorist-Invasion-of-Israel-Thwarted-by-Security-Forces
The IDF is reporting that 30 tunnels have been destroyed thus far and that captured members of Hamas are claiming there was to be a huge attack on Israel planned for the Jewish New Year.
I've always liked Aljazeera - http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/23/gaza-undergroundhamastunnels.html
Gaza’s underground: A vast tunnel network that empowers Hamas
However, much of the present combat will continue over the cross-border tunnels. Raw footage from Hamas released by The Associated Press shows Hamas fighters marching through a sophisticated tunnel. A video released by the IDF shows soldiers reportedly blowing up tunnels they discovered.
Another clip has troops explaining the operation, and pointing out some of the accommodations constructed by Hamas tunnel crews.
“Hamas wants to get a little something in terms of relief, letting goods and services flow," said Robert Hunter, former White House representative to Arab-Israeli peace talks. But, he added, "Israel probably won’t stop until they destroy most or all of the [attack] tunnels.”
Hamas marches through tunnels, what do you want them to do? March on Land? Go show themselves so that they can be all killed? Israelis use their jets to bomb Ghaza because they control the airspace, why don't they give up their jets and march through Ghaza on foot? It is really hypocritical to condemn Hamas's tunnels but don't even raise your finger at Israel's tanks, F-16S, Bombs, artillery, and what not. Of course Israel won't use tunnels to get through Ghaza, why the heck would they build tunnels? They have arms, armored vehicles, tanks, artillery, missiles, planes, helicopters, and warships. What does Hamas have?Not a single jet, not a single vehicle, they have ROCKETS. If you were hunted like a rat, you would build tunnels like the jews did in the warsaw ghetto. HAMAS need the Tunnels to SURVIVE. Once it was Nazis Leveling the Warsaw Ghetto, Now it’s Israel’s IDF Leveling Gaza. The irony!
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Palestinians are not the world's first dispossessed people, but they are the first to be asked to legitimize what happened to them.
OMG, there is nothing unique about their situation. The only thing unique about it is that they cannot tolerate living with, beside or in another country -- Israel. Can you imagine if people behaved this way when Pakistan was created, or any of the other countries that were created or dissolved in just the last 100 years? It's a ridiculous argument.
They are not living "with" or "beside" Israel, Israel is occupying their land and limiting their ability to live, even in Gaza.
Isn't that because of the actions of the Palestinians?
Please go educate yourself about this conflict before you start commenting....
Why don't you educate me? I asked a question.
I don't know a lot about this situation but I see plenty of asshole posts like these and worse supporting the Palestinians with no convincing logical arguments, on most of the threads about this topic. They aren't helping convince anyone you are right.
I am sorry, I was not trying to be an asshole. I said go educate yourself because this is 60 year old conflict and it would be hard to educate someone about it in 5 minutes on a Forum. You need to at least know the basics, how it started, why it is ongoing to understand the current situation. How about you watch this video that I shared yesterday? It was done by Americans & Israelis and explains it very well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8twvXHUNrXY&app=desktop