Magruder HS Shooting

[Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/KevinLewis7News/status/1486019856008888323


John McCarthy on SROs:

"The decision to take them out was made before the study group I was on finished their study. So, I was disappointed by the process because the groups I was working with didn't get to finish their work before the decision was made they'd be out of there."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not reassuring


Jones: “The first call, as I noted, was an injured person call that went out first. So, therefore a police officer would not have been dispatched in an injured person call at a school.”

Lewis: “The dispatch says a possible stabbing victim”

Jones: “That’s not how No, not at first.”

Lewis: “That’s what the recording says...”

Jones: “But in the end Please help me. I’m trying to help you understand. Okay. Once we understood that, again, this was the sheriff’s deputy that arrived at 1:12 p.m. who was the CEO assigned to that school handling another incident. He arrived there in seven minutes. Then you have to think about the time that it takes him to get out of the car, go into the school, find where the scene is, assess what’s happening, okay, and then based upon the needs and based upon the info that’s being shared, and remember what I said, the victim did not share, okay, the victim did not share information that would have helped us get police officers there quicker to deal with what we dealt with. So, we had a school lockdown. We had the building locked down. So, that was already taken care of. So, now it was really a matter of slowing everything down for us to be able to figure out where the suspect was.”

Lewis: “But, if there’s a school lockdown at a high school. Shouldn’t that automatically call for a priority response from police? And just to be clear, the recording says at 1:03 p.m., a possible stabbing victim.”

Jones: “But again, at the end of the day, we still had everything. We had enough officers on the scene based upon what we had. There was never a problem with that.”

True Lewis is an idiot. The question was answered multiple times... they did not need more cops, the decision was made, it was the right decision, move on Kevin... Kevin is such an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/KevinLewis7News/status/1486019856008888323


John McCarthy on SROs:

"The decision to take them out was made before the study group I was on finished their study. So, I was disappointed by the process because the groups I was working with didn't get to finish their work before the decision was made they'd be out of there."

But in the end the study group would have gotten rid of the SRO's is the part he did not say. All he cares about is an election. He didn't like the 'PROCESS" ... he never said he is mad SRO's were removed.

He's on thin ice so he might as well obfuscate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not reassuring


Jones: “The first call, as I noted, was an injured person call that went out first. So, therefore a police officer would not have been dispatched in an injured person call at a school.”

Lewis: “The dispatch says a possible stabbing victim”

Jones: “That’s not how No, not at first.”

Lewis: “That’s what the recording says...”

Jones: “But in the end Please help me. I’m trying to help you understand. Okay. Once we understood that, again, this was the sheriff’s deputy that arrived at 1:12 p.m. who was the CEO assigned to that school handling another incident. He arrived there in seven minutes. Then you have to think about the time that it takes him to get out of the car, go into the school, find where the scene is, assess what’s happening, okay, and then based upon the needs and based upon the info that’s being shared, and remember what I said, the victim did not share, okay, the victim did not share information that would have helped us get police officers there quicker to deal with what we dealt with. So, we had a school lockdown. We had the building locked down. So, that was already taken care of. So, now it was really a matter of slowing everything down for us to be able to figure out where the suspect was.”

Lewis: “But, if there’s a school lockdown at a high school. Shouldn’t that automatically call for a priority response from police? And just to be clear, the recording says at 1:03 p.m., a possible stabbing victim.”

Jones: “But again, at the end of the day, we still had everything. We had enough officers on the scene based upon what we had. There was never a problem with that.”

True Lewis is an idiot. The question was answered multiple times... they did not need more cops, the decision was made, it was the right decision, move on Kevin... Kevin is such an idiot.

Pot, kettle.

The trolling to cya MCPS and MCPD re: this incident is ineffective, at best.

They got very lucky that there were not multiple victims. Time will tell if a faster transport for the victim might have changed the outcome. Even the EMS were uneasy re: security en route.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked the teachers don't have a text or intranet system of some sort to warn them of danger without alerting the students.
All that needed to happen was a mass alert to staff "where is alston?"

One of the articles said that was how he was found -- texts were sent to the teachers of his picture with a question about whether he was in their classroom. I'd imagine the teacher who got the text and thought "Oh, crap, that was one of the kids I pulled in out of the hallway when the lockdown was called" was pretty shaken.

I'm also wondering why the kids who saw him throw the gun under a chair didn't say something but maybe they were too scared to have Alston see them alert the teacher. That is, I think, different than not calling for help when there's a kid bleeding out on the floor. Or maybe they really didn't see if he was sneaky enough about sliding it under someone else's stuff.

There are a lot of unanswered questions here, including why it took 2 hours to find him.

The photo I saw looked like it had probably been tucked underneath his backpack.

Thus has been an issue I have brought to the BOE and central office's attention MANY times. Some schools in this area are scary. My DD and DS attend blake hs and are always coming home with stories. Kids smoking in the bathrooms, kids being bullied in the bathrooms, kids being disrespectful to teachers, kids fighting and staff refuses to get involved. Just today a.group of kids inane class were tossing a Gatorade bottle around during class. These are the kids no one messes with. The teacher is powerless and afraid to get in the middle of it and just ignores it. How is that for a great learning environment? My DDs friend was smacked in the head by a kid because she glanced at him and he assumed it was because of his hairstyle. One kid calls the french teacher a pussy every day! This is the environment at some schools. Kids are out of control and they need to be removed if they can't behave. My kids want to go to another school but obviously can't and we're hoping for virtual so they don't have to deal with all these behavior issues that just keep happening. I would love for central office and boe to pop in a surprise visit and go to a few classrooms and I'm not talking the AP classes. It's time to cut the.social justice, restorative justice and discipline these kids or put them in a special school.

[Anonymous]

There is a security officer in the school. The removal of SROs did not create a vacuum. In this case, the security officer (who is not an employee of MCPD) found the student, called for help, and played an integral role in getting safety measures going.

You don’t need a police officer for that.

[Anonymous]

My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

This! All you “these kids who didn’t help are sociopaths” people are 100% clueless. My 7th grader at Eastern had his shirt torn by another kid. I asked if he said anything to a teacher. He looked at me and said “snitches get stitches”. He’s 12!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

Sadly I agree but I would expect my child to call 911 or get help. But, those students in there could have easily been kids who supported or wanted the shooting and not just bystanders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a security officer in the school. The removal of SROs did not create a vacuum. In this case, the security officer (who is not an employee of MCPD) found the student, called for help, and played an integral role in getting safety measures going.

You don’t need a police officer for that.

If you want to bring in more school security vs. SRO's fine but the real issue is funding. SRO's come out of the police department funding. Security guards are out of the MCPS budget. Either way we need SRO's to return or more security guards, or better, both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not reassuring


Jones: “The first call, as I noted, was an injured person call that went out first. So, therefore a police officer would not have been dispatched in an injured person call at a school.”

Lewis: “The dispatch says a possible stabbing victim”

Jones: “That’s not how No, not at first.”

Lewis: “That’s what the recording says...”

Jones: “But in the end Please help me. I’m trying to help you understand. Okay. Once we understood that, again, this was the sheriff’s deputy that arrived at 1:12 p.m. who was the CEO assigned to that school handling another incident. He arrived there in seven minutes. Then you have to think about the time that it takes him to get out of the car, go into the school, find where the scene is, assess what’s happening, okay, and then based upon the needs and based upon the info that’s being shared, and remember what I said, the victim did not share, okay, the victim did not share information that would have helped us get police officers there quicker to deal with what we dealt with. So, we had a school lockdown. We had the building locked down. So, that was already taken care of. So, now it was really a matter of slowing everything down for us to be able to figure out where the suspect was.”

Lewis: “But, if there’s a school lockdown at a high school. Shouldn’t that automatically call for a priority response from police? And just to be clear, the recording says at 1:03 p.m., a possible stabbing victim.”

Jones: “But again, at the end of the day, we still had everything. We had enough officers on the scene based upon what we had. There was never a problem with that.”

What an incompetent boob.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not reassuring


Jones: “The first call, as I noted, was an injured person call that went out first. So, therefore a police officer would not have been dispatched in an injured person call at a school.”

Lewis: “The dispatch says a possible stabbing victim”

Jones: “That’s not how No, not at first.”

Lewis: “That’s what the recording says...”

Jones: “But in the end Please help me. I’m trying to help you understand. Okay. Once we understood that, again, this was the sheriff’s deputy that arrived at 1:12 p.m. who was the CEO assigned to that school handling another incident. He arrived there in seven minutes. Then you have to think about the time that it takes him to get out of the car, go into the school, find where the scene is, assess what’s happening, okay, and then based upon the needs and based upon the info that’s being shared, and remember what I said, the victim did not share, okay, the victim did not share information that would have helped us get police officers there quicker to deal with what we dealt with. So, we had a school lockdown. We had the building locked down. So, that was already taken care of. So, now it was really a matter of slowing everything down for us to be able to figure out where the suspect was.”

Lewis: “But, if there’s a school lockdown at a high school. Shouldn’t that automatically call for a priority response from police? And just to be clear, the recording says at 1:03 p.m., a possible stabbing victim.”

Jones: “But again, at the end of the day, we still had everything. We had enough officers on the scene based upon what we had. There was never a problem with that.”

True Lewis is an idiot. The question was answered multiple times... they did not need more cops, the decision was made, it was the right decision, move on Kevin... Kevin is such an idiot.

What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

Sadly I agree but I would expect my child to call 911 or get help. But, those students in there could have easily been kids who supported or wanted the shooting and not just bystanders.

High school kids have phones.
Not one of these kids called their parents and said someone was SHOT?
What kind of parents are these that their own children don't tell their parents they witnessed a shootingduring lunch at school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

This! All you “these kids who didn’t help are sociopaths” people are 100% clueless. My 7th grader at Eastern had his shirt torn by another kid. I asked if he said anything to a teacher. He looked at me and said “snitches get stitches”. He’s 12!

Of course he didn't tell the teacher about a ripped shirt.

This is a student SHOT. You think your kid wouldn't see the difference in gravity of the situation???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alston Jr. sure seems to have had a lot of power over the actions of others, including the teacher in the room he wandered into for lockdown, not his class. Why might that be? Was it a regular teacher or a sub not familiar with the students? Were some kind of prison gang dynamics operating?

Fear can be a powerful motivator.

This could have been so much worse with mass casualties.

The victim could have gotten to the hospital much sooner, would that have changed the outcome? No siren vs. medivac for example.

Why in a school that had repeated threats as recently as December was the response so inept?

What? Prison gang dynamics?

Seems much more likely he ducked into the nearest classroom when they called the lockdown, and made up a story to explain why he was wandering the halls. No teacher is going to leave a student out in the hallway during a lockdown situation, especially if they don’t know why it’s been called.

For a long time teachers weren’t given much info about what was happening, until police figured out who they were looking for and determined that he didn’t seem to have fled off campus. Police didn’t know whether he was still armed, so they had to go slowly and carefully so they could apprehend him without further casualties. Nothing I’ve seen suggested he was holding the class hostage, or threatening the teacher or anything.

I don’t even know what “prison gang dynamics“ might even mean in this context.

This thread seems to imply that the shooter was let into the classroom after lockdown initiated. Would love to hear what this guy has to say.