Magruder HS Shooting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a security officer in the school. The removal of SROs did not create a vacuum. In this case, the security officer (who is not an employee of MCPD) found the student, called for help, and played an integral role in getting safety measures going.

You don’t need a police officer for that.

Well apparently you do need a police officer to recognize a BULLET HOLE in a child. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alston Jr. sure seems to have had a lot of power over the actions of others, including the teacher in the room he wandered into for lockdown, not his class. Why might that be? Was it a regular teacher or a sub not familiar with the students? Were some kind of prison gang dynamics operating?

Fear can be a powerful motivator.

This could have been so much worse with mass casualties.

The victim could have gotten to the hospital much sooner, would that have changed the outcome? No siren vs. medivac for example.

Why in a school that had repeated threats as recently as December was the response so inept?

What? Prison gang dynamics?

Seems much more likely he ducked into the nearest classroom when they called the lockdown, and made up a story to explain why he was wandering the halls. No teacher is going to leave a student out in the hallway during a lockdown situation, especially if they don’t know why it’s been called.

For a long time teachers weren’t given much info about what was happening, until police figured out who they were looking for and determined that he didn’t seem to have fled off campus. Police didn’t know whether he was still armed, so they had to go slowly and carefully so they could apprehend him without further casualties. Nothing I’ve seen suggested he was holding the class hostage, or threatening the teacher or anything.

I don’t even know what “prison gang dynamics“ might even mean in this context.

This thread seems to imply that the shooter was let into the classroom after lockdown initiated. Would love to hear what this guy has to say.

They need to bring someone in from the state or federal level to investigate what happened at Magruder.
The dad said a lockdown was called but students were doing testing, which continued. The students were then released from class and called back in because the lockdown was ongoing.
After the door was locked for a second time, the shooter was let into the classroom.
Error after arror after error.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alston Jr. sure seems to have had a lot of power over the actions of others, including the teacher in the room he wandered into for lockdown, not his class. Why might that be? Was it a regular teacher or a sub not familiar with the students? Were some kind of prison gang dynamics operating?

Fear can be a powerful motivator.

This could have been so much worse with mass casualties.

The victim could have gotten to the hospital much sooner, would that have changed the outcome? No siren vs. medivac for example.

Why in a school that had repeated threats as recently as December was the response so inept?

What? Prison gang dynamics?

Seems much more likely he ducked into the nearest classroom when they called the lockdown, and made up a story to explain why he was wandering the halls. No teacher is going to leave a student out in the hallway during a lockdown situation, especially if they don’t know why it’s been called.

For a long time teachers weren’t given much info about what was happening, until police figured out who they were looking for and determined that he didn’t seem to have fled off campus. Police didn’t know whether he was still armed, so they had to go slowly and carefully so they could apprehend him without further casualties. Nothing I’ve seen suggested he was holding the class hostage, or threatening the teacher or anything.

I don’t even know what “prison gang dynamics“ might even mean in this context.

This thread seems to imply that the shooter was let into the classroom after lockdown initiated. Would love to hear what this guy has to say.

Yes, since the school was going into lockdown anyone in the hall was told to get in a classroom. Are the teachers supposed to frisk people first? I know it’s horrible for those parents but I don’t see how this could be avoided. Is the teacher supposed to see this guy, assume that he’s the shooter and leave him in the hall? Or is she supposed to see this guy, assume he’s not the shooter, and get him in a room to safety? How is it up to her to make that judgment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alston Jr. sure seems to have had a lot of power over the actions of others, including the teacher in the room he wandered into for lockdown, not his class. Why might that be? Was it a regular teacher or a sub not familiar with the students? Were some kind of prison gang dynamics operating?

Fear can be a powerful motivator.

This could have been so much worse with mass casualties.

The victim could have gotten to the hospital much sooner, would that have changed the outcome? No siren vs. medivac for example.

Why in a school that had repeated threats as recently as December was the response so inept?

What? Prison gang dynamics?

Seems much more likely he ducked into the nearest classroom when they called the lockdown, and made up a story to explain why he was wandering the halls. No teacher is going to leave a student out in the hallway during a lockdown situation, especially if they don’t know why it’s been called.

For a long time teachers weren’t given much info about what was happening, until police figured out who they were looking for and determined that he didn’t seem to have fled off campus. Police didn’t know whether he was still armed, so they had to go slowly and carefully so they could apprehend him without further casualties. Nothing I’ve seen suggested he was holding the class hostage, or threatening the teacher or anything.

I don’t even know what “prison gang dynamics“ might even mean in this context.

This thread seems to imply that the shooter was let into the classroom after lockdown initiated. Would love to hear what this guy has to say.

Yes, since the school was going into lockdown anyone in the hall was told to get in a classroom. Are the teachers supposed to frisk people first? I know it’s horrible for those parents but I don’t see how this could be avoided. Is the teacher supposed to see this guy, assume that he’s the shooter and leave him in the hall? Or is she supposed to see this guy, assume he’s not the shooter, and get him in a room to safety? How is it up to her to make that judgment?

You did not read the thread on Twitter.
Lockdown had happened and the teacher let the kids out during lockdown then brought them back in again and locked the door a second time.

Either way, there is a flaw with the protocol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

This! All you “these kids who didn’t help are sociopaths” people are 100% clueless. My 7th grader at Eastern had his shirt torn by another kid. I asked if he said anything to a teacher. He looked at me and said “snitches get stitches”. He’s 12!

But that’s the things it’s not like these kids were silent about the incident Bc they were scared....that’s makes sense. Bc obviously they sent the victim and shooters name over Twitter. Does “snitches get stitches” not apply in Twitter land? Just because it’s thru Twitter? That’s the part I don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

Any word on the victim?

[Anonymous]

Once you do the sweep and secure the door, no one else is allowed in. I know it’s cruel but this is what we were taught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

This! All you “these kids who didn’t help are sociopaths” people are 100% clueless. My 7th grader at Eastern had his shirt torn by another kid. I asked if he said anything to a teacher. He looked at me and said “snitches get stitches”. He’s 12!

Of course he didn't tell the teacher about a ripped shirt.

This is a student SHOT. You think your kid wouldn't see the difference in gravity of the situation???

You think a kid would not want to avoid being NEXT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alston Jr. sure seems to have had a lot of power over the actions of others, including the teacher in the room he wandered into for lockdown, not his class. Why might that be? Was it a regular teacher or a sub not familiar with the students? Were some kind of prison gang dynamics operating?

Fear can be a powerful motivator.

This could have been so much worse with mass casualties.

The victim could have gotten to the hospital much sooner, would that have changed the outcome? No siren vs. medivac for example.

Why in a school that had repeated threats as recently as December was the response so inept?

What? Prison gang dynamics?

Seems much more likely he ducked into the nearest classroom when they called the lockdown, and made up a story to explain why he was wandering the halls. No teacher is going to leave a student out in the hallway during a lockdown situation, especially if they don’t know why it’s been called.

For a long time teachers weren’t given much info about what was happening, until police figured out who they were looking for and determined that he didn’t seem to have fled off campus. Police didn’t know whether he was still armed, so they had to go slowly and carefully so they could apprehend him without further casualties. Nothing I’ve seen suggested he was holding the class hostage, or threatening the teacher or anything.

I don’t even know what “prison gang dynamics“ might even mean in this context.

This thread seems to imply that the shooter was let into the classroom after lockdown initiated. Would love to hear what this guy has to say.

Yes, since the school was going into lockdown anyone in the hall was told to get in a classroom. Are the teachers supposed to frisk people first? I know it’s horrible for those parents but I don’t see how this could be avoided. Is the teacher supposed to see this guy, assume that he’s the shooter and leave him in the hall? Or is she supposed to see this guy, assume he’s not the shooter, and get him in a room to safety? How is it up to her to make that judgment?

That is the point of lockdown. Shut the door. Do.Not.Open.It.Again. That's how a lockdown works. Why? Because of exactly what happened here. Don't let the shooter in your classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Once you do the sweep and secure the door, no one else is allowed in. I know it’s cruel but this is what we were taught.

Kids reported friends texting that someone was knocking on classroom doors. Guess it was Alston, the shooter. This was noted in some local news reports too.

https://twitter.com/PBienenfeld/status/1485750169882738689


"Thx for keeping on this story. How did the suspect get into this classroom during lockdown? I am hearing he knocked on the door and someone (the teacher?) let him in, is that correct? The timeline seems sketchy."

So not teacher "pulled him in" a teacher in a locked room admitted him. To a class he was not supposed to be in.

When there were repeated threats at Magruder as recently as December, why did the adults besides the nurse perform in a way that escalated the danger to the other kids? WTH?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids would keep their mouths shut because they would be terrified that they would be targeted. Seriously, some of these schools are frightening.

This! All you “these kids who didn’t help are sociopaths” people are 100% clueless. My 7th grader at Eastern had his shirt torn by another kid. I asked if he said anything to a teacher. He looked at me and said “snitches get stitches”. He’s 12!

Of course he didn't tell the teacher about a ripped shirt.

This is a student SHOT. You think your kid wouldn't see the difference in gravity of the situation???

You think a kid would not want to avoid being NEXT?

Apparently the witnesses didn't care since they went and posted what happened on Twitter.

[Anonymous]

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/confusion-rumors-concern-magruder-student-parents-describe-scene-after-fridays-shooting/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a security officer in the school. The removal of SROs did not create a vacuum. In this case, the security officer (who is not an employee of MCPD) found the student, called for help, and played an integral role in getting safety measures going.

You don’t need a police officer for that.

Well apparently you do need a police officer to recognize a BULLET HOLE in a child. Duh.

+1 even if they thought initially it might be a stab wound, why didn't they call the cops?

Cops are trained to assess threat. Security officers are not.

Bring back the SROs. I'm signing that petition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a security officer in the school. The removal of SROs did not create a vacuum. In this case, the security officer (who is not an employee of MCPD) found the student, called for help, and played an integral role in getting safety measures going.

You don’t need a police officer for that.

Well apparently you do need a police officer to recognize a BULLET HOLE in a child. Duh.

+1 even if they thought initially it might be a stab wound, why didn't they call the cops?

Cops are trained to assess threat. Security officers are not.

Bring back the SROs. I'm signing that petition.

You can’t train security officers to assess a wound but you can teach cops education and psychology?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a security officer in the school. The removal of SROs did not create a vacuum. In this case, the security officer (who is not an employee of MCPD) found the student, called for help, and played an integral role in getting safety measures going.

You don’t need a police officer for that.

Well apparently you do need a police officer to recognize a BULLET HOLE in a child. Duh.

+1,000,000