It’s already been answered. If the parents won’t, call 911. Danger to self and others. Trespassing. No parental consent required. |
What bizarre fantasy world are you living in? This never happened, not even in whatever imaginary world you think used to exist. Stick to reality, please. |
Hahahaha OMG. No, the police did not used to be at the heck and call of school administrators. What an idiot you are. |
First of all, most parents didn't recuse a school's request. Also, parents knew they didn't really have the option to decline. "Ma'am, if you don't remove your son from the premises, we'll call the police; and you can pick him up at the station. Your choice." |
No, honey. The idiots are the ones defending the school district and handwringing saying “but what else could they doooooooo?” They are going to lose a MASSIVE civil suit and it will be well deserved. |
I'm a retired educator. Yes, the police did come and remove high school students. |
Michigan is not like VA and MD with county-wide district leaders. Each and every school boundary in Michigan has its own staff of bureaucrats and their own school board. A fiefdom of six-figure salary jefes and a school board controls tiny Oxford's 7,000 students and 2,000 high school. A dozen plus administration brass making $100,000 to $205,000 plus a year in wages alone to run a handful of schools. These so-called experts all have bachelor's, master's, and even doctorate degrees. This is why they're paid the big bucks. They all dropped the ball. I safely assume the most famous civil attorney in Michigan, Geoffrey Feiger -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Fieger -- will have a press conference next week announcing he's suing the district for a nine figure sum on behalf of the shooting victims and any students present at the high school that day. |
| Oxford High School has a full-time school resource officer, who is a sworn Oakland County sheriff's deputy. There was no need to "call the police," the resource officer literally has an office in the school, presumably mere feet from the principal's office where these meetings took place. The high school brass, for whatever reason, did not loop the deputy into any of this. That is pure negligence. |
Duh—they are not the same posters! I am for the school and parents being held accountable, and I think a government’s job is to protect its citizens (including from Americans with guns!!) |
"Like many schools across the country, Oxford High School has a police officer assigned to patrol its halls and campus. On Tuesday, according to a law enforcement official, that deputy and a responding deputy disarmed and arrested a 15-year-old student." https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/11/30/oxford-high-shooting-police-school-liaison-officer/8813723002/ Why wasn't this deputy looped into the documented violent psych issues of the kid, calls to the parents, and the two meetings with the kid and the other with his parents? The deputy was INTENTIONALLY not looped in and not included in the meetings. The district is so screwed in a civil suit. |
| Yeah I’m really struggling on this. I’ve heard of schools calling the cops on 5/6 year old black kids, putting hand cuffs on them cause they can’t control them and such….but this kid gets to hang out at the school after clearly threatening to shoot it up? Then he shoots it and the police apprehend him with no shots fired after he kills 3 three and injures countless others, but the cops roll up on Tamir Rice and kill him within 5 seconds and he hadn’t killed anyone. |
He could have been kept in an administrative office. I've seen it done before for in-school suspensions. That, and his locker and backpack. He gave up his right to privacy when he made his artwork. |
I agree with these, the school could have done more and they will likely face at least civil lawsuits as they should. |
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There was a report that the disturbing drawing was “updated” after the teacher saw it and reported it, prior to the meeting with the parents. The school did many things right. Probably more things than most large HS’s in this country would’ve done. Teacher reported the note and the school admin called for urgent, immediate meeting with parents. But the drawing changed before the meeting and the enabling/head-in-the sand parents pushed back on taking kid home. He had no prior disciplinary issues.Where the school failed IMHO 1.) didn’t ask whether they had guns in their home that were currently accounted for and 2.) didn’t insist on searching kids backpack and locker before sending back to class.
I agree the families that lost their children should be compensated through the civil suits that will likely follow.I hope that monies will be found to outfit every HS with metal detectors to avoid future gun violence in schools. This HS did many things right but it still wasn’t enough to prevent this tragedy. |
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Such a horrible situation. After listening to the latest news on Channel 4 Detroit, I was struck by how similar the guidance counselors in this case compared to the police who stopped Brian Laundry and Gabby Petition. Only in this case, the counselors were presumably trained more in looking for warning signs associated with people on the verge.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/12/05/school-threat-investigations-in-wayne-county-lead-to-charges-against-7-minors/ |