Friday's "snow?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

OMG you think that snow tires were needed on Friday? Give me a break! Let me guess - you are from Florida.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

OMG you think that snow tires were needed on Friday? Give me a break! Let me guess - you are from Florida.

I grew up and learned to drive in a very snowy area (lake effect snow from one of the Great Lakes). I do not think snow tires were necessary on Friday, nor do I have snow tires on my car. I was just trying to fathom what preparations pp thinks people are making as we speak. I suspect none at all.

[Anonymous]

No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

I lived in Canada and learned to drive there. Snow removal was far better there. Driver’s ed instruction spent a lot of time on what to do when you skid, etc . . . Sidewalks were clear so no one was walking in the street with skidding vehicles.

But in addition, the majority of the time if there was fresh snow it was landing on previous snow, it didn’t melt and freeze. It stayed frozen and became packed snow, not freezing rain, or ice, or slush that refroze. That’s a different driving experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

People drive in snow because they have to get to work and rely on wages to pay the bills. Doesnt matter where you live. Friday's decision in MONTGOMERY COUNTY Maryland put students and drivers at risk.
-someone who lived in all those regions

[Anonymous]

Probably Taylor's kids don't ride a school bus. Why would they care then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

I lived in Canada and learned to drive there. Snow removal was far better there. Driver’s ed instruction spent a lot of time on what to do when you skid, etc . . . Sidewalks were clear so no one was walking in the street with skidding vehicles.

But in addition, the majority of the time if there was fresh snow it was landing on previous snow, it didn’t melt and freeze. It stayed frozen and became packed snow, not freezing rain, or ice, or slush that refroze. That’s a different driving experience.

My husband works for dot and said they make it worse by half ass treating the roads so it starts to melt and then ices back over. Instead of snow pack you just get black ice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

OMG you think that snow tires were needed on Friday? Give me a break! Let me guess - you are from Florida.

Bless your heart

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably Taylor's kids don't ride a school bus. Why would they care then?

Some of the people running the system sound like they are really out of touch with their average constituent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

I lived in Canada and learned to drive there. Snow removal was far better there. Driver’s ed instruction spent a lot of time on what to do when you skid, etc . . . Sidewalks were clear so no one was walking in the street with skidding vehicles.

But in addition, the majority of the time if there was fresh snow it was landing on previous snow, it didn’t melt and freeze. It stayed frozen and became packed snow, not freezing rain, or ice, or slush that refroze. That’s a different driving experience.

My husband works for dot and said they make it worse by half ass treating the roads so it starts to melt and then ices back over. Instead of snow pack you just get black ice.

That might be true if we get a snow storm in the middle of a cold snap in the midwinter, but the kind of snowpack you get when it’s been below zero for a month is not going to happen in early December in DC no matter what you do. The ground isn’t cold enough to keep the snow frozen when cars are driving on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

People drive in snow because they have to get to work and rely on wages to pay the bills. Doesnt matter where you live. Friday's decision in MONTGOMERY COUNTY Maryland put students and drivers at risk.
-someone who lived in all those regions

It didn't, though, as indicated by what happened. The experience demonstrated opening was safe. Getting stuck on a bus for a while isn't a serious safety issue, not
nor are late buses. Those happen for a variety of reasons throughout the year, as do more serious accidents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

I lived in Canada and learned to drive there. Snow removal was far better there. Driver’s ed instruction spent a lot of time on what to do when you skid, etc . . . Sidewalks were clear so no one was walking in the street with skidding vehicles.

But in addition, the majority of the time if there was fresh snow it was landing on previous snow, it didn’t melt and freeze. It stayed frozen and became packed snow, not freezing rain, or ice, or slush that refroze. That’s a different driving experience.

The conditions you're describing were the same as Friday. Snow stayed snow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

I lived in Canada and learned to drive there. Snow removal was far better there. Driver’s ed instruction spent a lot of time on what to do when you skid, etc . . . Sidewalks were clear so no one was walking in the street with skidding vehicles.

But in addition, the majority of the time if there was fresh snow it was landing on previous snow, it didn’t melt and freeze. It stayed frozen and became packed snow, not freezing rain, or ice, or slush that refroze. That’s a different driving experience.

My husband works for dot and said they make it worse by half ass treating the roads so it starts to melt and then ices back over. Instead of snow pack you just get black ice.

That might be true if we get a snow storm in the middle of a cold snap in the midwinter, but the kind of snowpack you get when it’s been below zero for a month is not going to happen in early December in DC no matter what you do. The ground isn’t cold enough to keep the snow frozen when cars are driving on it.

+1. People here lack a basic understanding of weather and science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares where people on this discussion learned to drive. A decision put kids, drivers and others knowingly at risk.

The point is that there's a common misconception frequently repeated on dcum that schools in the northeast only open because of much better snow removal. That's false. Anyone from the northeast or midwest will tell you people just understand they can drive on snow.

I am GenX and grew up in WNY, where they know snow and how to clear it efficiently. Blizzard conditions and/or at least 10 inches of snow was required for a snow day when I was a kid. I would note, however, that in recent years school districts in WNY are closing more frequently with less snow and some ice because of student safety concerns. So, a complex decision even when you have the means and ability to clear snow.