Friday's "snow?"

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Anonymous wrote:Haha! This makes me so happy my child attends the private school in my neighborhood. No buses, no closures, no missing teachers, no guns, no underperforming students or any other maladies y'all plebians complain about. Guess you all will have to work harder and put your child in private school so you can finally stop your whining.

Lol and yet here you are on the mcps PUBLIC schools forum.

A private school that only pulls both teachers and students from one neighborhood?

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Anonymous wrote:Haha! This makes me so happy my child attends the private school in my neighborhood. No buses, no closures, no missing teachers, no guns, no underperforming students or any other maladies y'all plebians complain about. Guess you all will have to work harder and put your child in private school so you can finally stop your whining.

Lol and yet here you are on the mcps PUBLIC schools forum.

A private school that only pulls both teachers and students from one neighborhood?

I’m betting religious.

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

I’m a teacher and I don’t get why this teacher is cleaning diarrhoea off the floor. Also being physically assaulted? That is too much. Wow! And take a sick day if you have a 102 degree fever. Sub plans are a pain but if you’re sick you’re sick

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

The practice they got this time.

Maybe they'll feel less compelled to try taking pictures while they drive, too. It helps to have two hands available while driving.

So not really any better prepared.

Of course it is. This all comes down to people learning how to drive and walk on a little snow.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS should just be consistent. Err on the side of caution. Period. Sometimes a call will be a false positive. It's worth it when the potential for ACTUAL physical harm is considered.

Decades ago MCPS did something stupid like Friday and a teacher was killed in a car accident driving to school. Will it really take something like that again for people to actually care about safety?

Sadly, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

*I* wrote that I support that teacher and am willing to give her the grace she was requesting. *I* am not that teacher, as you are clearly assuming in this latest post.

*You* have decided to twist that PP’s words into something barely recognizable at this point for reasons that I can’t even begin to understand. For some reason, you have an intense need to take that teacher down.

And, as I’ve said before, you’ve made your point. And, as I’ve also said before, I hope my support of that overworked teacher cancels out your need to criticize. So don’t grant grace, if that’s too hard for you to do. The rest of us will do it instead.

You're the one twisting her words. She was quite clear about what was motivating her desire for delayed/cancelled school. Others here can read her post for themselves.

This has descended into silliness at this point. I can’t imagine why you care this much. There are so many more important things than taking down one teacher because you don’t like the way she expressed her frustrations. You must live such a charmed life that this is your biggest issue.

It's unfair to pin it on that one teacher. She's certainly not the only person that yells for snow days because she wants a day off. She's just more transparent than the others.

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

The practice they got this time.

Maybe they'll feel less compelled to try taking pictures while they drive, too. It helps to have two hands available while driving.

No one needs to get snow tires to deal with a dusting like the one that occurred Friday. McPS Kids have buses or they can walk if they’re close enough that bus service isn’t provided. One of my kids walked and one of my kids bused on Friday and both were perfectly fine.

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

*I* wrote that I support that teacher and am willing to give her the grace she was requesting. *I* am not that teacher, as you are clearly assuming in this latest post.

*You* have decided to twist that PP’s words into something barely recognizable at this point for reasons that I can’t even begin to understand. For some reason, you have an intense need to take that teacher down.

And, as I’ve said before, you’ve made your point. And, as I’ve also said before, I hope my support of that overworked teacher cancels out your need to criticize. So don’t grant grace, if that’s too hard for you to do. The rest of us will do it instead.

You're the one twisting her words. She was quite clear about what was motivating her desire for delayed/cancelled school. Others here can read her post for themselves.

This has descended into silliness at this point. I can’t imagine why you care this much. There are so many more important things than taking down one teacher because you don’t like the way she expressed her frustrations. You must live such a charmed life that this is your biggest issue.

It's unfair to pin it on that one teacher. She's certainly not the only person that yells for snow days because she wants a day off. She's just more transparent than the others.

So you just want to make assumptions about teachers. It doesn’t matter what they post (or what they don’t post). You’ll just let your bias fly.

Thank you for that transparency. We know where you stand.

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Anonymous wrote:Haha! This makes me so happy my child attends the private school in my neighborhood. No buses, no closures, no missing teachers, no guns, no underperforming students or any other maladies y'all plebians complain about. Guess you all will have to work harder and put your child in private school so you can finally stop your whining.

Ha! My kid attended MCPS k-12 and still was offered admission to multiple top 10 colleges. Ha! We saved $$$$ by avoiding private school, which by the way, did you know the best academics are in public schools? I guess private schools cherry pick their students and can expel anyone (well sorta) who doesn’t follow the rules, except when your child attends the same school as an administrator’s kid who relentlessly bullies the others in her class. Total mean girl behavior. But hey! It’s private school! We sweep those problems under the rug!

1. If your kid’s public school is in your neighborhood, no buses either.
2. Y’all lie because private schools definitely close for inclement weather.
3. No guns? Are you 100% sure? They definitely have better drugs. 💉 💊

Did you know… that private schools only work for the middle 50%? So if your kid is gifted or needs a bit of extra support, they are ineffective at differentiating? The more you know! 🌈

Careful trolling because you aren’t that great at it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

Let's guess, you don't have kids? If you do, how unlucky of them to have gotten you. You don't care about a school district of 159,000+ students, 25,000 personnel, 211 schools and 13k+ bus stops.

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

Let's guess, you don't have kids? If you do, how unlucky of them to have gotten you. You don't care about a school district of 159,000+ students, 25,000 personnel, 211 schools and 13k+ bus stops.

It's too late for such FUD. We already opened and it was fine. Your dire predictions were wrong. You were probably similarly wrong during covid.

[Anonymous]

^ no you and those calling no delay Friday morning were wrong endangering many students, bus drivers, and other motorists

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Anonymous wrote:^ no you and those calling no delay Friday morning were wrong endangering many students, bus drivers, and other motorists

Obviously not, because Friday was a huge success.

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

The practice they got this time.

Maybe they'll feel less compelled to try taking pictures while they drive, too. It helps to have two hands available while driving.

So not really any better prepared.

Of course it is. This all comes down to people learning how to drive and walk on a little snow.

Don’t be ridiculous. Do you think that every time there’s been a delay or closure or it snowed on a day there already was no school, people just stayed inside their houses until the snow was completely gone? The vast majority of us have walked and driven on snow a lot more in our lives than we did on Friday, but combine slick patches, darkness until shortly after 7am, and heavy traffic, and you’ve got a recipe for more accidents than usual. It’s not hard to drive on snow when there are no icy spots, but we had random icy spots on Friday. If Monday morning’s weather would be identical to Friday’s, the only way we’d fair much better is if more people bowed out and stayed home or went in later.

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

The practice they got this time.

Maybe they'll feel less compelled to try taking pictures while they drive, too. It helps to have two hands available while driving.

So not really any better prepared.

Of course it is. This all comes down to people learning how to drive and walk on a little snow.

Don’t be ridiculous. Do you think that every time there’s been a delay or closure or it snowed on a day there already was no school, people just stayed inside their houses until the snow was completely gone? The vast majority of us have walked and driven on snow a lot more in our lives than we did on Friday, but combine slick patches, darkness until shortly after 7am, and heavy traffic, and you’ve got a recipe for more accidents than usual. It’s not hard to drive on snow when there are no icy spots, but we had random icy spots on Friday. If Monday morning’s weather would be identical to Friday’s, the only way we’d fair much better is if more people bowed out and stayed home or went in later.

I didn't say much better. I said better. It was already quite good on Friday.