Friday's "snow?"

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

[Anonymous]

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My husband drove our high schooler to BCC this morning, and despite years of driving on snow and ice, slipped a little in the downhill to the parking garage. He said that street had not been brined.

I come from northern Europe, I've driven in far worse. But the expectation around here is that if you open schools, you'd better damn well make sure that the streets are safe around them!

The preparation for a Code Green today was lacking. In previous years, if MCPS and the county could not prepare in time, it meant a closure. I, OTOH, would prefer they prepare better.

As for the childcare closure on Tuesday, that was just bonkers.

School will be extended until July if the expectation this winter is that streets are completely clear before school opens. Of course, half of the kids won't show up.

A lot of these parents would be fine with that as they see school as day care.

No, parents on DCUM have already booked summer camps and will send their kids if they can't get their money back.

And yes, school functions as child care for many parents. Parents are required by law to send our kids to school or get approved for homeschool. Most parents don't wait around at home in case school gets cancelled. We have jobs that get disrupted when school is closed.

Some people choose to have kids. And those that didn't choose, were chosen. Deal with it. Parent. Find a babysitter.

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My husband drove our high schooler to BCC this morning, and despite years of driving on snow and ice, slipped a little in the downhill to the parking garage. He said that street had not been brined.

I come from northern Europe, I've driven in far worse. But the expectation around here is that if you open schools, you'd better damn well make sure that the streets are safe around them!

The preparation for a Code Green today was lacking. In previous years, if MCPS and the county could not prepare in time, it meant a closure. I, OTOH, would prefer they prepare better.

As for the childcare closure on Tuesday, that was just bonkers.

School will be extended until July if the expectation this winter is that streets are completely clear before school opens. Of course, half of the kids won't show up.

A lot of these parents would be fine with that as they see school as day care.

No, parents on DCUM have already booked summer camps and will send their kids if they can't get their money back.

And yes, school functions as child care for many parents. Parents are required by law to send our kids to school or get approved for homeschool. Most parents don't wait around at home in case school gets cancelled. We have jobs that get disrupted when school is closed.

Some people choose to have kids. And those that didn't choose, were chosen. Deal with it. Parent. Find a babysitter.

Yes, we deal with it every time school gets closed unexpectedly and when our kids get sick and when there is a worldwide pandemic. We know. Mostly, we miss work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haha! This makes me so happy my child attends the private school in my neighborhood. No buses, no closures, no missing teachers, no guns, no underperforming students or any other maladies y'all plebians complain about. Guess you all will have to work harder and put your child in private school so you can finally stop your whining.

Lol and yet here you are on the mcps PUBLIC schools forum.

[Anonymous]

Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

Friday’s letter was navel gazing.

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone that’s mad about kids and staff reporting to work 2 hours later, I just wanna know…. Why???

Kids get to sleep in a little, and staff gets to take their time getting to work for once in their life. Why are you hating so much?

It wasn't much different 2 hours later, so what good would that have done?

It was worse 2 hours later in fact. That would have been worse than opening on time.

2 hours later than what? 2 hours after they made the call at 5am? 2 hours later than high school buses leave the depot shortly after 6am? 2 hours after high school starts at 7:45?

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

*I* wrote that I support that teacher and am willing to give her the grace she was requesting. *I* am not that teacher, as you are clearly assuming in this latest post.

*You* have decided to twist that PP’s words into something barely recognizable at this point for reasons that I can’t even begin to understand. For some reason, you have an intense need to take that teacher down.

And, as I’ve said before, you’ve made your point. And, as I’ve also said before, I hope my support of that overworked teacher cancels out your need to criticize. So don’t grant grace, if that’s too hard for you to do. The rest of us will do it instead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

*I* wrote that I support that teacher and am willing to give her the grace she was requesting. *I* am not that teacher, as you are clearly assuming in this latest post.

*You* have decided to twist that PP’s words into something barely recognizable at this point for reasons that I can’t even begin to understand. For some reason, you have an intense need to take that teacher down.

And, as I’ve said before, you’ve made your point. And, as I’ve also said before, I hope my support of that overworked teacher cancels out your need to criticize. So don’t grant grace, if that’s too hard for you to do. The rest of us will do it instead.

You're the one twisting her words. She was quite clear about what was motivating her desire for delayed/cancelled school. Others here can read her post for themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

The practice they got this time.

Maybe they'll feel less compelled to try taking pictures while they drive, too. It helps to have two hands available while driving.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tuesday letter said decisions will be made prioritiizing safety. Friday's decision not to delay or close was doing exactly the opposite of ensuring safety. And then the Friday evening letter, what the f was that? Time for an adult to lead

I understand the worry. I had a puppy as a child, and I remember the first time he walked on snow. He was terrified. But after running around on it, he discovered it wasn't going to hurt him. From that point on he loved running around in the snow.

Friday the district found out that it didn't need to be so scared of snow. It even far better than I'm sure even you expected, and next time people will be better prepared.

How will people be better prepared? They’re not going to run out and buy snow tires. I guess they can make sure their kids are wearing boots, but I don’t think that will make a big difference. Maybe more people will keep their kids home because they no longer trust MCPS’s decision making.

The practice they got this time.

Maybe they'll feel less compelled to try taking pictures while they drive, too. It helps to have two hands available while driving.

So not really any better prepared.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School based staff are all over worked and under paid. Give them a break.

Snow delays and closures should be about safety, not a gift to staff. The uncertainty can be really tough for families, most of whom don't get paid well either. Of course, for safety, it has to be done sometimes.

It's nice to give teachers a break but then let's plan a longer school year and have more days off. I pay for child care for a reason but that doesn't help when they prohibit our provider from opening even though the providers are able to and want to open.

“Give them a break” simply means stop picking on them and calling them entitled.

Nobody is implying to give them a morning delay just to give them a break.

Relax.

Yes, they absolutely are.

Give it a rest. Seriously.

I get that you're trying to spin it, but someone already confessed.

I missed this confession apparently. I did see one teacher who said SHE didn’t witness any struggle getting in, but that she would appreciate erring on the side of caution. I then saw one poster (you?) pick up on her statement that she would use the time to get caught up on work and (gasp!) actually have the time to eat breakfast for once. Apparently that’s the “confession” that you are using to say teachers generally feel entitled to 2-hour delays to get caught up.

Ironically, she simply asked for grace, which is something you’re completely incapable of granting. You’ve proven that already. No need to dig in.

I really hope you're not an English teacher because you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Look at that post again. Did she express safety concerns or talk about burnout?

I care about a lot of things. Guess what? I didn’t add any of them to my latest DCUM post. You can’t make assumptions about a person based on what they didn’t write. Well, at least you can make sound, reasoned assumptions…

People write about the things they care about. You wrote about how the roads were fine, but that you're overworked and would have appreciated the morning off from class. There was a clear line of thinking.

Because it's a few pages back, I'll post it again so people can read it for themselves to decide if it sounds like the author was concerned about roads versus something else:

I’m an MCPS employee and parent of a kid in MS and HS. Did I make it to work by 7:30 in my Honda Civic? Yes. Did the vast majority of students and staff make it to work even if they were late? Yes. The conditions were drivable.

I think a lot of people who say Friday was the right call have never worked in a school. I’ve gone to work with a 102 fever. I’ve gone to work the day following a miscarriage. I took 2 days of bereavement leave when my sibling died. I’ll speak for myself - I show up to work even when I probably shouldn’t. We don’t have jobs where we can just catch up on work the next day. We have to worry about coverage, subs, sub plans. Rescheduling meetings that at least 7 other people have on their calendar. We worry about teaching all of the material. We worry about burdening our colleagues.
We don’t have a flexible schedule like so many other professionals do. Yes, we have unpaid leave in the summer, but many of us work ESY or summer school. Yes, we have winter and spring break but paras don’t even get paid for all of those days.
We, and most students and families appreciate erring on the side of caution. We get to sit down while we drink our coffee. We get to catch up on some work. We get to have breakfast with our families, without feeling like we’re rushing every single morning.
A 2 hour delay doesn’t mean learning doesn’t take place. We don’t even need to add that day onto the calendar.
Staff works hard. Really hard. I’ve had students physically assault me. I’ve been on my hands and knees cleaning diarrhea from a bathroom floor. Can we just a few days a year get some grace?
The email yesterday absolutely feels like gas lighting and makes me as a staff member feel completely unappreciated.
If you disagree with this post then I’m sorry. You also don’t work in a public school and you wouldn’t understand.

*I* wrote that I support that teacher and am willing to give her the grace she was requesting. *I* am not that teacher, as you are clearly assuming in this latest post.

*You* have decided to twist that PP’s words into something barely recognizable at this point for reasons that I can’t even begin to understand. For some reason, you have an intense need to take that teacher down.

And, as I’ve said before, you’ve made your point. And, as I’ve also said before, I hope my support of that overworked teacher cancels out your need to criticize. So don’t grant grace, if that’s too hard for you to do. The rest of us will do it instead.

You're the one twisting her words. She was quite clear about what was motivating her desire for delayed/cancelled school. Others here can read her post for themselves.

This has descended into silliness at this point. I can’t imagine why you care this much. There are so many more important things than taking down one teacher because you don’t like the way she expressed her frustrations. You must live such a charmed life that this is your biggest issue.