How much does religion matter with regard to your kids’ future spouses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eastern Orthodox. Very important, as Orthodox Christians are not permitted to marry someone who has not been baptized. No exceptions. So a prospective spouse being a mainstream trinitarian Christian is the bare minimum.

PP again. My parents were horrible about my wedding and marriage so we would not make a huge crisis out of it. Our daughter is too young to be thinking about marriage but she's very devout and even considering monastic life so unless there's a big change, this will be a priority for her, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Not at all. And we are regular churchgoers. What matters to me is kindness, generosity, honesty and that they're always in each other's corner.

So it won't bother you if they won't go to church with you? If they don't celebrate Christmas? If they ask that you NOT send christmas gifts?

Nope. BTW, Jesus preached love, not frenetic gift buying.

My kids would never ask someone not to send gifts
What religion is against that?

But can you imagine that your child's spouse might not celebrate Christmas? Surely, that's not beyond the pale.

Everything about Christmas except the nativity story is pagan - the tree, the gifts, the lights, the food, the music, the yule, ...... I'm a Christian so we celebrate the birth of Jesus, but I understand that all of the things surrounding the holiday have pagan roots. You certainly don't need to identify as a Christian to celebrate what is now called "Christmas".

Washington Irving and Charles Dickens are the fathers of our modern Christmas traditions.

Regardless
Even if spouse doesn't celebrate Christmas, there is no rule against receiving gifts from a grandparent
Remember the rule honor your mother and your father?
Are you insinuating that it is only proper to honor them if your spouse agrees!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When it’s time for your kids to settle down and marry, how much does the future spouse’s religion matter to you? Does it matter to you which religion your grandkids will be raised?

Obviously it would beyond my control. However, I would be supremely disappointed if spouse was very religious, whatever that religion was.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

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Anonymous wrote:Not at all. And we are regular churchgoers. What matters to me is kindness, generosity, honesty and that they're always in each other's corner.

So it won't bother you if they won't go to church with you? If they don't celebrate Christmas? If they ask that you NOT send christmas gifts?

Nope. BTW, Jesus preached love, not frenetic gift buying.

My kids would never ask someone not to send gifts
What religion is against that?

But can you imagine that your child's spouse might not celebrate Christmas? Surely, that's not beyond the pale.

Everything about Christmas except the nativity story is pagan - the tree, the gifts, the lights, the food, the music, the yule, ...... I'm a Christian so we celebrate the birth of Jesus, but I understand that all of the things surrounding the holiday have pagan roots. You certainly don't need to identify as a Christian to celebrate what is now called "Christmas".

Washington Irving and Charles Dickens are the fathers of our modern Christmas traditions.

Regardless
Even if spouse doesn't celebrate Christmas, there is no rule against receiving gifts from a grandparent
Remember the rule honor your mother and your father?
Are you insinuating that it is only proper to honor them if your spouse agrees!

Dude, if you think that applying "honor your mother and father" to purchasing Christmas presents is the hill you want to die on, be my guest. As for me, if my adult son or daughter tells me that they would prefer that we not give presents at Christmas, I'm totally ok with that because 1) there are many other potential gift-giving occasions; and 2) I want to actually enjoy and get to know my grandchildren and that depends on their parents' being on board.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

Puhleeze. Stop with the drama and wild exaggerations and own your sh!!ty behavior on a mom’s website.

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Anonymous wrote:Not at all. And we are regular churchgoers. What matters to me is kindness, generosity, honesty and that they're always in each other's corner.

So it won't bother you if they won't go to church with you? If they don't celebrate Christmas? If they ask that you NOT send christmas gifts?

Nope. BTW, Jesus preached love, not frenetic gift buying.

My kids would never ask someone not to send gifts
What religion is against that?

But can you imagine that your child's spouse might not celebrate Christmas? Surely, that's not beyond the pale.

Everything about Christmas except the nativity story is pagan - the tree, the gifts, the lights, the food, the music, the yule, ...... I'm a Christian so we celebrate the birth of Jesus, but I understand that all of the things surrounding the holiday have pagan roots. You certainly don't need to identify as a Christian to celebrate what is now called "Christmas".

Washington Irving and Charles Dickens are the fathers of our modern Christmas traditions.

Regardless
Even if spouse doesn't celebrate Christmas, there is no rule against receiving gifts from a grandparent
Remember the rule honor your mother and your father?
Are you insinuating that it is only proper to honor them if your spouse agrees!

Dude, if you think that applying "honor your mother and father" to purchasing Christmas presents is the hill you want to die on, be my guest. As for me, if my adult son or daughter tells me that they would prefer that we not give presents at Christmas, I'm totally ok with that because 1) there are many other potential gift-giving occasions; and 2) I want to actually enjoy and get to know my grandchildren and that depends on their parents' being on board.

Number 2 sounds like blackmail
Number 1 sounds like you are justifying yourself

All in all, situation sounds toxic. Rather you than me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

So you think that because some Christians wear crucifixes or ashes that it’s ok to bully them on DCUM. Do you bully Sikhs who wear turbans on DCUM? Didn’t think so. Get help for your uncontrolled hate issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

So you think that because some Christians wear crucifixes or ashes that it’s ok to bully them on DCUM. Do you bully Sikhs who wear turbans on DCUM? Didn’t think so. Get help for your uncontrolled hate issues.

I do not get what pp is saying either
Xmas is international standard, good for companies to be able to schedule vacation time off at the same time.
Ash Wednesday, boxing day, Orthodox Xmas are not. Most time neither is good Friday

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

So you think that because some Christians wear crucifixes or ashes that it’s ok to bully them on DCUM. Do you bully Sikhs who wear turbans on DCUM? Didn’t think so. Get help for your uncontrolled hate issues.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

Puhleeze. Stop with the drama and wild exaggerations and own your sh!!ty behavior on a mom’s website.

How is the PP drama or exaggeration? I'll wait . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

So you think that because some Christians wear crucifixes or ashes that it’s ok to bully them on DCUM. Do you bully Sikhs who wear turbans on DCUM? Didn’t think so. Get help for your uncontrolled hate issues.

+1

Criticism does not equate to bullying. YOu just don't like to hear the criticism. Which isn't my problem.

[Anonymous]

As long as the future spouse is of the same category as our family - nones - we won’t have any problems. If they are actually believers in whatever religion there’s going to be some pretty serious issues and we won’t support the marriage. I guess they could be “culturally” christian or jewish or muslim or hindu, etc. where they celebrate that faith’s major holidays only in a secular fashion but even that’s going to a stretch for us.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

So you think that because some Christians wear crucifixes or ashes that it’s ok to bully them on DCUM. Do you bully Sikhs who wear turbans on DCUM? Didn’t think so. Get help for your uncontrolled hate issues.

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Criticism does not equate to bullying. YOu just don't like to hear the criticism. Which isn't my problem.

As a straight-up bully and a dishonest DCUM poster, you don’t really deserve a reply. But statements like “all Christians think non-Christians are going to hell” or “Christians worship an old man in the sky” are patently untrue. And since you’ve been told that over and over, that makes you a liar—not a criticizer.

It’s your nasty tone about things like ashes that makes you a bully.

OK, time for you to run to Jeff and complain about “proselytizing” from “fragile Christians” here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to that thread a few days ago where consensus was that major religions, other than Christians, view other religions as equal, and that no single religion is "the religion?"

Concensus, lol. You mean DCUM’s atheists, Jews and Muslims once again ganged up to trash Christianity, and there were no Christians here because we avoid this forum for exactly this reason.

Oh yeah, Christians are so oppressed. If only they could have their religious holidays be national holidays. If only they could openly wear their crucifixes or ashes on their forehead. If only there were a majority of Christians on SCOTUS. If only there were Christian pastors leading prayer in Congress, and Christian messages on our money and other government promulgated items.

GMAFB.

Puhleeze. Stop with the drama and wild exaggerations and own your sh!!ty behavior on a mom’s website.

How is the PP drama or exaggeration? I'll wait . . .

Atheist pp (you?) is avoiding the subject—her own bullying behavior—and instead deflecting with over-the-top drama like “Oh, Christians are so oppressed” and “if only [insert pointless example here]….”

Clearly Atheist pp (you?) is incapable of answering a direct statement with anything besides off-topic, dramatic snark.

You’re welcome.