Can we please stop with the “you don’t want to parent your kids” bs

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DL is not bad for all kids. Its bad for some, especially those who don't have an active parent involved but for other kids its been great for a variety of reasons.

For the minority of kids who benefit from DL because it resolves or at least addresses another issue (bullying, social anxiety, ADHD, etc.) -- great! I will advocate for a DL option for such kids moving forward (though I should note that there basically already was a DL option for these kids -- it's called homeschooling and there are tons of resources available these days for just this situation).

Most kids don't fall into that category. Almost no kids below 3rd grade, honestly. There are no 1st graders who are just thriving via DL, unless by "thriving via DL" you mean "thriving via the tutors and pod their well-resourced parents have been able to provide." That is not an option or most parents.

So while I'm glad that some kids are now getting relief from difficult school situations, that doesn't mean that we should stop caring about the many, many kids who are now in a terrible school situation. Or blame their parents for the problem, when the problem is quite obviously DL.

No problem is pandemic. Problem is mismanagement by Trump. We are continuing to pay for the mistakes of the Orange buffoon and the criminal GOP. Now we have to deal with the big problem of pandemic and we will continue to suffer long term impact of mismanagement by a stupid low-intelligence ignorant Trump. Yes, sucks for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

You had leisure time before the pandemic. Please tell me about it. Lol

I will say I’m the queen of the leisure outfit

Haha, you got me, I did not. Just annoyed at the implication that DL isn't working for my kindergartener because I'm misusing my copious leisure time, or whatever.

I don't even object to the idea that parents should be helping their kids learn outside of school. It's being told that if I am not literally able to standing over my kids making them try to focus while sitting alone in front of a screen, on a schedule that conflicts with my actual job that pays for our mortgage and food and health care, I am literally failing as a parent. THAT'S what gets me. DL not working for a kindergartener? Must just be a bad mom. No such thing as a structural issue, find an individual to blame so you don't have to worry about fixing anything on a larger level.

No one is saying literally sit next to them but you need to help them log on, monitor what they are doing and make sure assignments are turned in (check daily). You can put a desk or child near you and monitor that way.

"Check daily" and "monitor quietly while sitting in the same room" are nowhere NEAR enough for a kindergartener who's rejecting DL. Nowhere near. You have to literally sit next to them and actively try to keep them on task all day. Which doesn't work if you are discussing a complex work issue at the same time. I have, actually, not left my child who is still working on reading fluency to figure out DL completely alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

You had leisure time before the pandemic. Please tell me about it. Lol

I will say I’m the queen of the leisure outfit

Haha, you got me, I did not. Just annoyed at the implication that DL isn't working for my kindergartener because I'm misusing my copious leisure time, or whatever.

I don't even object to the idea that parents should be helping their kids learn outside of school. It's being told that if I am not literally able to standing over my kids making them try to focus while sitting alone in front of a screen, on a schedule that conflicts with my actual job that pays for our mortgage and food and health care, I am literally failing as a parent. THAT'S what gets me. DL not working for a kindergartener? Must just be a bad mom. No such thing as a structural issue, find an individual to blame so you don't have to worry about fixing anything on a larger level.

No one is saying literally sit next to them but you need to help them log on, monitor what they are doing and make sure assignments are turned in (check daily). You can put a desk or child near you and monitor that way.

"Check daily" and "monitor quietly while sitting in the same room" are nowhere NEAR enough for a kindergartener who's rejecting DL. Nowhere near. You have to literally sit next to them and actively try to keep them on task all day. Which doesn't work if you are discussing a complex work issue at the same time. I have, actually, not left my child who is still working on reading fluency to figure out DL completely alone.

The person you’re talking to clearly has never interacted with a child, much less taught one.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

You had leisure time before the pandemic. Please tell me about it. Lol

For sure. I had leisure time for myself. I was able to hit the gym, had time for my hobbies, I could volunteer my time in many charitable organizations. Mostly because I had a cleaning lady who came thrice a week before the pandemic. Sure, I had to manage everything else but I had help. Kids being at school allowed me to be able to figure out what enrichment my kids needed and I was able to teach them when they came back from school and also do the EC activities. Now, I don't have that help and my kids and DH have a full remote schedule with work and school. Which means that I now have to juggle the cooking, cleaning, laundry and the education of the kids too.

Having so much screen time is not good for the children but what choice do they have? My school age niece also comes over during the day to do DL. My sister is my neighbor and she is working remotely. I am keeping an eye on the kids and I also make sure that all the homework is done even though the teachers are not strict about the homework. I also teach the kids painting, piano, arts and crafts in the evening and make sure that they do something fun like playing outdoors when it is not too cold, or even watching a movie etc., so it is like running a small school at home, even if it is family. Plus making sure that the kids all play nicely together...that is hard. Yes, I do not have leisure time at all now. Once upon a time I used to have high standards in how my home was run because I had help. That is bye-bye now. I am just trying to make sure that the kids are ok and doing fine academically.

yes because we are in a pandemic and people are dying we make sacrifices and don't get to do things the way we want to.

btw i work out every single day and haven't had an issue finding time - i don't consider that leisure (but everyone has their own preferences). DH got me a peleton; we go running with the kids; hiking with the kids so no issues there. i even got a trainer for the first time - arms have never looked so good.

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DL is not bad for all kids. Its bad for some, especially those who don't have an active parent involved but for other kids its been great for a variety of reasons.

For the minority of kids who benefit from DL because it resolves or at least addresses another issue (bullying, social anxiety, ADHD, etc.) -- great! I will advocate for a DL option for such kids moving forward (though I should note that there basically already was a DL option for these kids -- it's called homeschooling and there are tons of resources available these days for just this situation).

Most kids don't fall into that category. Almost no kids below 3rd grade, honestly. There are no 1st graders who are just thriving via DL, unless by "thriving via DL" you mean "thriving via the tutors and pod their well-resourced parents have been able to provide." That is not an option or most parents.

So while I'm glad that some kids are now getting relief from difficult school situations, that doesn't mean that we should stop caring about the many, many kids who are now in a terrible school situation. Or blame their parents for the problem, when the problem is quite obviously DL.

No problem is pandemic. Problem is mismanagement by Trump. We are continuing to pay for the mistakes of the Orange buffoon and the criminal GOP. Now we have to deal with the big problem of pandemic and we will continue to suffer long term impact of mismanagement by a stupid low-intelligence ignorant Trump. Yes, sucks for everyone.

The pandemic is arguably worse in the UK but their schools are open.

This is a self-inflicted wound. And it's uneven, since children all over the country are going to school.

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DL is not bad for all kids. Its bad for some, especially those who don't have an active parent involved but for other kids its been great for a variety of reasons.

For the minority of kids who benefit from DL because it resolves or at least addresses another issue (bullying, social anxiety, ADHD, etc.) -- great! I will advocate for a DL option for such kids moving forward (though I should note that there basically already was a DL option for these kids -- it's called homeschooling and there are tons of resources available these days for just this situation).

Most kids don't fall into that category. Almost no kids below 3rd grade, honestly. There are no 1st graders who are just thriving via DL, unless by "thriving via DL" you mean "thriving via the tutors and pod their well-resourced parents have been able to provide." That is not an option or most parents.

So while I'm glad that some kids are now getting relief from difficult school situations, that doesn't mean that we should stop caring about the many, many kids who are now in a terrible school situation. Or blame their parents for the problem, when the problem is quite obviously DL.

No problem is pandemic. Problem is mismanagement by Trump. We are continuing to pay for the mistakes of the Orange buffoon and the criminal GOP. Now we have to deal with the big problem of pandemic and we will continue to suffer long term impact of mismanagement by a stupid low-intelligence ignorant Trump. Yes, sucks for everyone.

The pandemic is arguably worse in the UK but their schools are open.

This is a self-inflicted wound. And it's uneven, since children all over the country are going to school.

Yes. The UK has a death rate of about 2.7%. Ours is about 1.7%.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

I am a parent and I support DL unless it is safe for school to open. I am sorry but I love my kids and my family. I don't want any one in my family to fall sick or die because of some lazy parents. These irresponsible parents rode the gravy train of free "childcare" provided by the school and gave not one thought about the education of their kids before the pandemic. They were disengaged parents and their brats were disruptive students before the pandemic.

No school opening unless it is safe for students and teachers. And if there is a pressing need, let the most vulnerable population return to school in a phased manner after full vaccination.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

I am a parent and I support DL unless it is safe for school to open. I am sorry but I love my kids and my family. I don't want any one in my family to fall sick or die because of some lazy parents. These irresponsible parents rode the gravy train of free "childcare" provided by the school and gave not one thought about the education of their kids before the pandemic. They were disengaged parents and their brats were disruptive students before the pandemic.

No school opening unless it is safe for students and teachers. And if there is a pressing need, let the most vulnerable population return to school in a phased manner after full vaccination.

Holy assumptions there, Batman.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

I am a parent and I support DL unless it is safe for school to open. I am sorry but I love my kids and my family. I don't want any one in my family to fall sick or die because of some lazy parents. These irresponsible parents rode the gravy train of free "childcare" provided by the school and gave not one thought about the education of their kids before the pandemic. They were disengaged parents and their brats were disruptive students before the pandemic.

No school opening unless it is safe for students and teachers. And if there is a pressing need, let the most vulnerable population return to school in a phased manner after full vaccination.

If there’s a pressing need?!

You naive, little person. There’s BEEN a pressing need this entire time.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

If you are working, you put your kid in a pod, hire a babysitter or figure it out. If your child isn't participating in school and you are saying its not your responsibility because you are working, then that is neglect.

WOW. It's neglect to not have a one on one caretaker to keep a 6 year old on task and fully attentive all day for distance learning? This is what i mean. If that is your definition of "parenting," a whole lot of fine parents just became neglectful in the last year. Forget whether the kid is safe, or even at grade level in terms of actual reading and math - if he's not attentive during the Zoom calls, and doesn't want to put in 20 minutes a day on the reading app, call CPS and see if the foster parents can do better.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

If you are working, you put your kid in a pod, hire a babysitter or figure it out. If your child isn't participating in school and you are saying its not your responsibility because you are working, then that is neglect.

WOW. It's neglect to not have a one on one caretaker to keep a 6 year old on task and fully attentive all day for distance learning? This is what i mean. If that is your definition of "parenting," a whole lot of fine parents just became neglectful in the last year. Forget whether the kid is safe, or even at grade level in terms of actual reading and math - if he's not attentive during the Zoom calls, and doesn't want to put in 20 minutes a day on the reading app, call CPS and see if the foster parents can do better.

Teachers: we don’t want to teach in person, so hire someone else to do what we won’t do.

It’s shockingly awful.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

I am a parent and I support DL unless it is safe for school to open. I am sorry but I love my kids and my family. I don't want any one in my family to fall sick or die because of some lazy parents. These irresponsible parents rode the gravy train of free "childcare" provided by the school and gave not one thought about the education of their kids before the pandemic. They were disengaged parents and their brats were disruptive students before the pandemic.

No school opening unless it is safe for students and teachers. And if there is a pressing need, let the most vulnerable population return to school in a phased manner after full vaccination.

You can take your “lazy parents” BS and shove it up your a$$, sweetheart.

[Anonymous]

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DL is not bad for all kids. Its bad for some, especially those who don't have an active parent involved but for other kids its been great for a variety of reasons.

For the minority of kids who benefit from DL because it resolves or at least addresses another issue (bullying, social anxiety, ADHD, etc.) -- great! I will advocate for a DL option for such kids moving forward (though I should note that there basically already was a DL option for these kids -- it's called homeschooling and there are tons of resources available these days for just this situation).

Most kids don't fall into that category. Almost no kids below 3rd grade, honestly. There are no 1st graders who are just thriving via DL, unless by "thriving via DL" you mean "thriving via the tutors and pod their well-resourced parents have been able to provide." That is not an option or most parents.

So while I'm glad that some kids are now getting relief from difficult school situations, that doesn't mean that we should stop caring about the many, many kids who are now in a terrible school situation. Or blame their parents for the problem, when the problem is quite obviously DL.

You are projecting saying its a minority. And, you are claiming NO XXX grader is doing well when that's not true.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

You had leisure time before the pandemic. Please tell me about it. Lol

For sure. I had leisure time for myself. I was able to hit the gym, had time for my hobbies, I could volunteer my time in many charitable organizations. Mostly because I had a cleaning lady who came thrice a week before the pandemic. Sure, I had to manage everything else but I had help. Kids being at school allowed me to be able to figure out what enrichment my kids needed and I was able to teach them when they came back from school and also do the EC activities. Now, I don't have that help and my kids and DH have a full remote schedule with work and school. Which means that I now have to juggle the cooking, cleaning, laundry and the education of the kids too.

Having so much screen time is not good for the children but what choice do they have? My school age niece also comes over during the day to do DL. My sister is my neighbor and she is working remotely. I am keeping an eye on the kids and I also make sure that all the homework is done even though the teachers are not strict about the homework. I also teach the kids painting, piano, arts and crafts in the evening and make sure that they do something fun like playing outdoors when it is not too cold, or even watching a movie etc., so it is like running a small school at home, even if it is family. Plus making sure that the kids all play nicely together...that is hard. Yes, I do not have leisure time at all now. Once upon a time I used to have high standards in how my home was run because I had help. That is bye-bye now. I am just trying to make sure that the kids are ok and doing fine academically.

yes because we are in a pandemic and people are dying we make sacrifices and don't get to do things the way we want to.

btw i work out every single day and haven't had an issue finding time - i don't consider that leisure (but everyone has their own preferences). DH got me a peleton; we go running with the kids; hiking with the kids so no issues there. i even got a trainer for the first time - arms have never looked so good.

Good for you. I am supporting a hapless WOHM (my sister). I guess I should consider myself a WOHM too because I am now a nanny/teacher since I am providing her a service by looking after her daughter during the day (for free). I think I have lost around 10 lbs since the pandemic because of all that sweeping and mopping!! I do have a home gym but I hate working out at home. I was a person who actually liked the ritual of going to the gym.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

If you are working, you put your kid in a pod, hire a babysitter or figure it out. If your child isn't participating in school and you are saying its not your responsibility because you are working, then that is neglect.

WOW. It's neglect to not have a one on one caretaker to keep a 6 year old on task and fully attentive all day for distance learning? This is what i mean. If that is your definition of "parenting," a whole lot of fine parents just became neglectful in the last year. Forget whether the kid is safe, or even at grade level in terms of actual reading and math - if he's not attentive during the Zoom calls, and doesn't want to put in 20 minutes a day on the reading app, call CPS and see if the foster parents can do better.

School should not be an option in your home. So, yes, if all he has to do is an app for 20 minutes a day, how hard is that to do? Really, its 20 minutes!