Can we please stop with the “you don’t want to parent your kids” bs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

I need to adapt? No.

I’m an essential worker who has been working this entire time. Unlike you, her teachers have been working in person. That means she can attend school and I can earn money to put a roof over her head.

My job cannot be done from home.

What do you propose I do, since you apparently know everything and it’s all so easy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

I need to adapt? No.

I’m an essential worker who has been working this entire time. Unlike you, her teachers have been working in person. That means she can attend school and I can earn money to put a roof over her head.

My job cannot be done from home.

What do you propose I do, since you apparently know everything and it’s all so easy?

Let me clarify: if her teachers refused to work in person, what do you propose I should have done to “adapt”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

I need to adapt? No.

I’m an essential worker who has been working this entire time. Unlike you, her teachers have been working in person. That means she can attend school and I can earn money to put a roof over her head.

My job cannot be done from home.

What do you propose I do, since you apparently know everything and it’s all so easy?

As an essential worker, one would assume you make decent money, so hire help or get outside child care. That is part of parenting. If you cannot do it ourself, outsource.

[Anonymous]

I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

I need to adapt? No.

I’m an essential worker who has been working this entire time. Unlike you, her teachers have been working in person. That means she can attend school and I can earn money to put a roof over her head.

My job cannot be done from home.

What do you propose I do, since you apparently know everything and it’s all so easy?

Let me clarify: if her teachers refused to work in person, what do you propose I should have done to “adapt”?

Pay for child care. You are essential, your child's teacher is not. They can work from home, you cannot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I work out of the house full time. So does my husband. My kids are 11 and 14 - they handle distance learning by themselves. Every day. Even though they are “doing well”, I, like most, realize the material they are covering and their methods of assessment are pretty sub par with DL. I want my kids back in school ASAP.
I’m parenting them exactly as I would have during “normal” times, if they were in person in school. So please please stop with the nonsense that people only want kids in school because they can’t/don’t want to parent them, or are sick of them, or want someone else to parent them. It’s just a stupid baseless so called argument.

Well you should not be parenting them just like "normal times" ... these are not normal times.

You are exactly the person that people are complaining about, you don't want to be bothered to "parent your kids".

If they are falling back in school, help them.
If they need more socialization, set up outdoor gatherings so they can carry on friendships.
If they need a sport, sign them up for a sport.
If they need their arts, get together with other parents and continue with their arts.

The government is not there to solve all your problems. Do your job as a parent.

OP here. I am parenting my kids in all those ways and then some. Where did you get the idea that I wasn’t? My point is, I don’t want them in school because I don’t want to parent. Or because this DL is too hard. Or because my kids are wearing me out. (They’re not - I have a job for that.). I want them back in school for a better education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

No, I am a parent and I'm tired of people slamming teachers when ultimately your kids are your responsibility. We are in a pandemic. Most teachers I know are working harder than every. Its far from a dream job which is why the rest of us don't want to do it.

[Anonymous]

DL is not bad for all kids. Its bad for some, especially those who don't have an active parent involved but for other kids its been great for a variety of reasons.

For the minority of kids who benefit from DL because it resolves or at least addresses another issue (bullying, social anxiety, ADHD, etc.) -- great! I will advocate for a DL option for such kids moving forward (though I should note that there basically already was a DL option for these kids -- it's called homeschooling and there are tons of resources available these days for just this situation).

Most kids don't fall into that category. Almost no kids below 3rd grade, honestly. There are no 1st graders who are just thriving via DL, unless by "thriving via DL" you mean "thriving via the tutors and pod their well-resourced parents have been able to provide." That is not an option or most parents.

So while I'm glad that some kids are now getting relief from difficult school situations, that doesn't mean that we should stop caring about the many, many kids who are now in a terrible school situation. Or blame their parents for the problem, when the problem is quite obviously DL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

Working parent here and yes, this. My kid is 6. He tried so hard in the fall but at this point he screws around during synchronous AND asynchronous times. I am doing my best to keep him as attentive as i can, but I am also on my own work Zoom calls for most of the school day and cannot leave them every 5 minutes to stand over him saying "put that down, look at the screen, do what your teacher is saying" for 3 hours. Even when i do, some days it isn't that successful.

The only way i could "parent" him full time on the SCHOOL'S preferred schedule is to quit my job. If the minimum level of parenting you think is necessary involves one SAHP per household, you really, really have to rethink your expectations. That is absolutely unreasonable. I said in another thread that this is basically an argument for private school.

This is a pandemic. Private schools are also shutting down for 14 days every time some one gets COVID, which is far more disruptive. It is a crapshoot and it is horrible.

My kids have great teachers for DL, but I have no leisure time anymore because I have to be very involved in the education of the students. Still, I believe that some families will actually utilize this time and give an academic leg-up to their children. We will see some students get exponentially ahead in academics. This will really widen the achievement gap.

Funny, I have no leisure time because I'm either doing my job or taking care of my kids while my husband does his job all day every weekday. We do reading and math practice with my 6 year old in ways he enjoys after school but I cannot "be involved" by making him sit still and do all the synchronous lessons and asynchronous apps and things he is supposed to do for virtual K because I AM WORKING. We're not talking about whether parents are educating their kids in some way, we're talking about whether parents make sure their kids are compliant with the schedule and tasks laid out by the school.

You had leisure time before the pandemic. Please tell me about it. Lol

For sure. I had leisure time for myself. I was able to hit the gym, had time for my hobbies, I could volunteer my time in many charitable organizations. Mostly because I had a cleaning lady who came thrice a week before the pandemic. Sure, I had to manage everything else but I had help. Kids being at school allowed me to be able to figure out what enrichment my kids needed and I was able to teach them when they came back from school and also do the EC activities. Now, I don't have that help and my kids and DH have a full remote schedule with work and school. Which means that I now have to juggle the cooking, cleaning, laundry and the education of the kids too.

Having so much screen time is not good for the children but what choice do they have? My school age niece also comes over during the day to do DL. My sister is my neighbor and she is working remotely. I am keeping an eye on the kids and I also make sure that all the homework is done even though the teachers are not strict about the homework. I also teach the kids painting, piano, arts and crafts in the evening and make sure that they do something fun like playing outdoors when it is not too cold, or even watching a movie etc., so it is like running a small school at home, even if it is family. Plus making sure that the kids all play nicely together...that is hard. Yes, I do not have leisure time at all now. Once upon a time I used to have high standards in how my home was run because I had help. That is bye-bye now. I am just trying to make sure that the kids are ok and doing fine academically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

I need to adapt? No.

I’m an essential worker who has been working this entire time. Unlike you, her teachers have been working in person. That means she can attend school and I can earn money to put a roof over her head.

My job cannot be done from home.

What do you propose I do, since you apparently know everything and it’s all so easy?

As an essential worker, one would assume you make decent money, so hire help or get outside child care. That is part of parenting. If you cannot do it ourself, outsource.

Oh wait — so I have to pay to make someone else do what you’re unwilling to do.

God you’re awful.

Also, you realize most essential workers don’t make much money, right? You wanna tell what you just said to a grocery store clerk?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

I need to adapt? No.

I’m an essential worker who has been working this entire time. Unlike you, her teachers have been working in person. That means she can attend school and I can earn money to put a roof over her head.

My job cannot be done from home.

What do you propose I do, since you apparently know everything and it’s all so easy?

Let me clarify: if her teachers refused to work in person, what do you propose I should have done to “adapt”?

Pay for child care. You are essential, your child's teacher is not. They can work from home, you cannot.

At least we’re being honest now. The teachers are not essential, but the minimum wage childcare workers are.

You horrible, horrible people. Sitting at home, expecting minimum wage workers to do what you aren’t willing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

Many teachers have not adapted. They have not adapted their curriculum or their teaching styles or their expectations to DL. It's one of the many reasons DL is so terrible -- teachers and schools are trying to shoehorn their in-person curriculum into a very different format. Or they are leaning almost entirely on YouTube videos. That's not "adapting". That's just doing your job poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the posters hatwho say "parent your kid" are teachers and administrators who want this DL vacation to continue. They have minimal work and a full paycheck. It's a dream job and they will do or say anything they need to to keep the gravy train going.

No, I am a parent and I'm tired of people slamming teachers when ultimately your kids are your responsibility. We are in a pandemic. Most teachers I know are working harder than every. Its far from a dream job which is why the rest of us don't want to do it.

Of course it's not a dream job. Teachers complain about DL all the time. It's a pandemic, as you said. Which is why the inferior offering is not a parenting failure. If teachers were thanking parents for helping to support their kids and keeping allowing them to stay out of unsafe buildings, this entire dialog would be different. DL is not teachers' fault, but they benefit the most. Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can also stop the "teachers are lazy" posts.

You’re unwilling to do your jobs.

Teachers are doing their kids. Their jobs have change and instead of complaining, they adapted. You now need to adapt.

Many teachers have not adapted. They have not adapted their curriculum or their teaching styles or their expectations to DL. It's one of the many reasons DL is so terrible -- teachers and schools are trying to shoehorn their in-person curriculum into a very different format. Or they are leaning almost entirely on YouTube videos. That's not "adapting". That's just doing your job poorly.

And when I asked them what essential workers are supposed to do, their answer was, “hire childcare.”