Can we please stop with the “you don’t want to parent your kids” bs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish we never started down that path. I went to a Reddit teacher sub a month ago to better understand the stress that teachers and how difficult DL is from their point of view. I wanted to understand and sympathize. What I found was that most teachers posting there hate their students, hate their students' families, and think that DL is a perfectly find education substitute for in person learning that is disliked only by selfish people, mostly women, who want "free" childcare or the opportunity to go to the gym.

I can't unread what I've read, unfortunately, I and it has impacted my views on public education.

I agree, but I choose to believe that only the most extreme people post online like that. I also recognize that parents have posted a lot of unfair stereotypes about teachers through all of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish we never started down that path. I went to a Reddit teacher sub a month ago to better understand the stress that teachers and how difficult DL is from their point of view. I wanted to understand and sympathize. What I found was that most teachers posting there hate their students, hate their students' families, and think that DL is a perfectly find education substitute for in person learning that is disliked only by selfish people, mostly women, who want "free" childcare or the opportunity to go to the gym.

I can't unread what I've read, unfortunately, I and it has impacted my views on public education.

I was a teacher, different career now. Your impression is entirely consistent with my experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish we never started down that path. I went to a Reddit teacher sub a month ago to better understand the stress that teachers and how difficult DL is from their point of view. I wanted to understand and sympathize. What I found was that most teachers posting there hate their students, hate their students' families, and think that DL is a perfectly find education substitute for in person learning that is disliked only by selfish people, mostly women, who want "free" childcare or the opportunity to go to the gym.

I can't unread what I've read, unfortunately, I and it has impacted my views on public education.

I agree, but I choose to believe that only the most extreme people post online like that. I also recognize that parents have posted a lot of unfair stereotypes about teachers through all of this.

+1

There have been plenty of posts hating teachers, too.

It's not surprising that some might post hating parents and students, but mostly it's just venting and hyperbole. Just think of it as the nonsense that people say when they're complaining. They don't mean it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also because they attend school, I use that time to have a job. If we don't want to offer school, then I guess I can stay home to homeschool them and you, teacher, can go find another line of work. But that's not how we're currently set up to function as a society.

Go for it, sweetums!

I challenge parents to start home-schooling their kids or even make their lunch everyday. OMFG! My affluent neighbor is driving down the nearest school to pick up school lunches every day so that they don't have to cook. The school lunch consists of bread, cheese slice and luncheon meat, a fruit and a carton of milk. I am trying to think where is the cooking involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish we never started down that path. I went to a Reddit teacher sub a month ago to better understand the stress that teachers and how difficult DL is from their point of view. I wanted to understand and sympathize. What I found was that most teachers posting there hate their students, hate their students' families, and think that DL is a perfectly find education substitute for in person learning that is disliked only by selfish people, mostly women, who want "free" childcare or the opportunity to go to the gym.

I can't unread what I've read, unfortunately, I and it has impacted my views on public education.

I've seen this here and it's baffling. And disappointing that any teachers might think this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah even if your kids are 11 and 14 you need to parent them.

If they were sneaking out of school when we were in person you would blame the school because in loco parentis. Same thing when they are in your care - if your kids sneak out while you are working you need to manage your kids.

When you come home from work, you make sure they have food, you talk to them about their day, what was hard, what wasn't, make sure they have some kind of entertainment - video games, books, etc.

You parent your kids - yes better if they are in school but is it better if your weak child gets coughed on by a bully and gets to worry they are covid pos? For older kids that is my worry - kids running up to each other coughing in faces; stealing masks, etc. I don't think that will happen with younger ones as they are monitored more.

What nonsense is this? If my kids snuck out of school, I would blame the school?

And you would be right. When they are in your care you need to blame yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perspective from a stay at home mom: I feel for the teachers, but even with constant supervision, my kid screws around a lot during asynchronous time. I can stand there and tell him to do his work and he will just sit and find reasons to stall. His teachers praised his work a lot during the regular school year and there is just no way his behavior is just how he is as a student.

When people tell me I just need to parent him more, I have to laugh. There is no way I could parent him any more than I am doing now. I know it must be a nightmare for working parents.

I am a SAHM too. I have had to step up and make sure that my child is doing the work and is planning ahead. Teachers are pretty good and will write notes if the kid is slacking off. I actually think a lot more studying is happening in DL than the normal school day ...BUT...this much screen time is not good for the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also because they attend school, I use that time to have a job. If we don't want to offer school, then I guess I can stay home to homeschool them and you, teacher, can go find another line of work. But that's not how we're currently set up to function as a society.

Go for it, sweetums!

I challenge parents to start home-schooling their kids or even make their lunch everyday. OMFG! My affluent neighbor is driving down the nearest school to pick up school lunches every day so that they don't have to cook. The school lunch consists of bread, cheese slice and luncheon meat, a fruit and a carton of milk. I am trying to think where is the cooking involved.

I would be upset for them taking the free lunch out of the mouths of poor kids but they would probably go to waste if they didn't. I'm sure the school finds this telling and sad. I refused it once during a supply pick up and they insisted. My kid was so excited as he loves the school lunches. First time all pandemic he ate everything.

[Anonymous]

Those people are the worst, but I think they're at an extreme. A friend of mine actually says things like, "why do you want my mother to die, just because you're too lazy to parent your kids?" He doesn't say it to me, but I read it in his facebook comments. I just assume he's completely ignorant about what it's like to work and raise kids in this environment and is having an emotional response to keeping his mother out of harm's way while clinging to dumb logic. He hasn't devoted one neuron to thinking about the children left behind, alone and hungry from school closings.

So I think it's just an emotional response based on a person's individual situation. People have big feelings about this, which makes a lot of their arguments really stupid. Like this one referenced in the OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also because they attend school, I use that time to have a job. If we don't want to offer school, then I guess I can stay home to homeschool them and you, teacher, can go find another line of work. But that's not how we're currently set up to function as a society.

Go for it, sweetums!

I challenge parents to start home-schooling their kids or even make their lunch everyday. OMFG! My affluent neighbor is driving down the nearest school to pick up school lunches every day so that they don't have to cook. The school lunch consists of bread, cheese slice and luncheon meat, a fruit and a carton of milk. I am trying to think where is the cooking involved.

If you think DL isn't exactly the same as modern homeschooling you don't know very much about homeschooling. We are all literally homeschooling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also because they attend school, I use that time to have a job. If we don't want to offer school, then I guess I can stay home to homeschool them and you, teacher, can go find another line of work. But that's not how we're currently set up to function as a society.

Go for it, sweetums!

I challenge parents to start home-schooling their kids or even make their lunch everyday. OMFG! My affluent neighbor is driving down the nearest school to pick up school lunches every day so that they don't have to cook. The school lunch consists of bread, cheese slice and luncheon meat, a fruit and a carton of milk. I am trying to think where is the cooking involved.

If you think DL isn't exactly the same as modern homeschooling you don't know very much about homeschooling. We are all literally homeschooling.

DP. No, I homeschooled my kids in that gap between schools being closed and DL starting up in March and April. Actual homeschooling is so much easier and better than this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also because they attend school, I use that time to have a job. If we don't want to offer school, then I guess I can stay home to homeschool them and you, teacher, can go find another line of work. But that's not how we're currently set up to function as a society.

Go for it, sweetums!

I challenge parents to start home-schooling their kids or even make their lunch everyday. OMFG! My affluent neighbor is driving down the nearest school to pick up school lunches every day so that they don't have to cook. The school lunch consists of bread, cheese slice and luncheon meat, a fruit and a carton of milk. I am trying to think where is the cooking involved.

In my district they are encouraging everyone to pick up school lunches. I don’t because my kids make the work own lunches. But I wouldn’t judge anyone who did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah even if your kids are 11 and 14 you need to parent them.

If they were sneaking out of school when we were in person you would blame the school because in loco parentis. Same thing when they are in your care - if your kids sneak out while you are working you need to manage your kids.

When you come home from work, you make sure they have food, you talk to them about their day, what was hard, what wasn't, make sure they have some kind of entertainment - video games, books, etc.

You parent your kids - yes better if they are in school but is it better if your weak child gets coughed on by a bully and gets to worry they are covid pos? For older kids that is my worry - kids running up to each other coughing in faces; stealing masks, etc. I don't think that will happen with younger ones as they are monitored more.

What nonsense is this? If my kids snuck out of school, I would blame the school?

And you would be right. When they are in your care you need to blame yourself.

Heaven forbid a child over ten take responsibility for their own poor decisions.

[Anonymous]

The teaching that is happening in my child's school is so bad that I definitely don't need advice on parenting from teachers. I mean, they can't even do their own jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also because they attend school, I use that time to have a job. If we don't want to offer school, then I guess I can stay home to homeschool them and you, teacher, can go find another line of work. But that's not how we're currently set up to function as a society.

Go for it, sweetums!

I challenge parents to start home-schooling their kids or even make their lunch everyday. OMFG! My affluent neighbor is driving down the nearest school to pick up school lunches every day so that they don't have to cook. The school lunch consists of bread, cheese slice and luncheon meat, a fruit and a carton of milk. I am trying to think where is the cooking involved.

If you think DL isn't exactly the same as modern homeschooling you don't know very much about homeschooling. We are all literally homeschooling.

If homeschooling is when your child watches a narrated Google slide deck for 3 hours a day, sure, we're all homeschooling.