trump has the Pentagon planning something big right now.

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Okay so the US goes to war again in the Middle East. What else is new? We’ll bomb and invade and declare victory and then it’ll all go to shit and we’ll slink away again years later with our tail between our legs, losers yet again. We all know the script. But hey at least people can put cool patriotic bumper stickers on their cars and the defense contractors can get rich!
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.



Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.


I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.




I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.


Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.


Sorry. The 18th.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532022-incoming-national-security-adviser-pentagon-hasnt-granted-meeting



Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.



Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.


I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.




I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.


Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.


Sorry. The 18th.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532022-incoming-national-security-adviser-pentagon-hasnt-granted-meeting



Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.



^^ I'm not saying there isn't obstruction happening but I can say there's no general directive not to cooperate. If particular officials are being obstructionist, the Biden team needs to take their specific complaints to the Sec Def, Def Sec Def, or Chief of Staff and, if an unsatisfactory response, start naming some names.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.



Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.


I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.





I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.


Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.


Sorry. The 18th.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532022-incoming-national-security-adviser-pentagon-hasnt-granted-meeting



Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.


Given Trump and his administration's dedication to truth and transparency and cooperation and given Biden's proclivity toward quietness, I am going with Sullivan and that the REAL problem is orders of magnitude worse.

But defend them and continue on Trumphumper!
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.



Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.


I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.





I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.


Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.


Sorry. The 18th.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532022-incoming-national-security-adviser-pentagon-hasnt-granted-meeting



Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.


Given Trump and his administration's dedication to truth and transparency and cooperation and given Biden's proclivity toward quietness, I am going with Sullivan and that the REAL problem is orders of magnitude worse.

But defend them and continue on Trumphumper!



Not remotely a Trumphumper, just a rational person capable of looking at both sides critically and trying to understand the nature of the problem. But you do you, sweetie.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.



Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.


I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.





I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.


Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.


Sorry. The 18th.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532022-incoming-national-security-adviser-pentagon-hasnt-granted-meeting



Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.


Given Trump and his administration's dedication to truth and transparency and cooperation and given Biden's proclivity toward quietness, I am going with Sullivan and that the REAL problem is orders of magnitude worse.

But defend them and continue on Trumphumper!



Not remotely a Trumphumper, just a rational person capable of looking at both sides critically and trying to understand the nature of the problem. But you do you, sweetie.


Giving Trump and Miller the benefit of the doubt is the antithesis of "rationality".
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Anonymous wrote:If this is correct, hopefully someone with character will stand up to Trump. Not hopeful.


“Character” and “military” are mutually exclusive terms. Remember, these are the same people who bomb hospitals and strap bombs to dolphins. If you’re relying on them to do the right thing, you’re going to be very disappointed


I'm very thankful that my freedoms and those of my family and this country aren't dependent on people like you.
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Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.


DP - And I agree with the PPs that the Trump Administration has such low credibility and clear aversion to transparency and accountability that I am giving Sullivan the extreme benefit of the doubt. And how do we know that no one is being instructed not to cooperate? I trust that Jake Sullivan knows who to call to set up meetings at DoD.
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Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.


DP - And I agree with the PPs that the Trump Administration has such low credibility and clear aversion to transparency and accountability that I am giving Sullivan the extreme benefit of the doubt. And how do we know that no one is being instructed not to cooperate? I trust that Jake Sullivan knows who to call to set up meetings at DoD.

You don't. Anyone high enough to get that instruction isn't going to talk about it.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but then that begs the question of “what in the hell are they doing at the carderock naval surface warfare center that’s so important that it requires missiles to defend it”?

It looks like dumpy old warehouse facility to me. I read there’s a long swimming pool type thing inside where they test models of ships or something. That doesn’t seem like the kind of place that would be a key target to protect.

Something's not adding up.


They are at Carderock because it's a secured government facility. They don't have to be colocated with what they are trying to defend (which is downtown washington), because they have a range of 70 kilometers.


Then wouldn’t it make more sense to space them out farther away from DC? Like maybe on a mountain top in Frederick or out in the Chesapeake Bay?

Why put them so close to neighborhoods and schools?

Frederick is 80 km out, so barely out of range. Did you know they do secret biological research at the military base in Frederick? Scared yet?




Whut????

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Medical_Research_Institute_of_Infectious_Diseases

Point is, there is all kinds of weird crap at military bases and there are a lot of bases near DC of course. I really wouldn't worry about a few anti-aircraft missiles.


I’m a research scientist in molecular biology and I very much agree. We are surrounded by research labs in biodefense. A few missiles are not the problem.

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Yes, there is a disagreement about some kind of a two-week halt, but Miller says there are several meetings this week. And Sullivan gives no specifics. Whose office is not responding, and re: what specific issues? Is a particular Secretary not responding to information requests in a timely manner, one or more DASDs? What are their areas etc.? No-one is being instructed not to cooperate by leadership, so it's hard to know what's going on here.


DP - And I agree with the PPs that the Trump Administration has such low credibility and clear aversion to transparency and accountability that I am giving Sullivan the extreme benefit of the doubt. And how do we know that no one is being instructed not to cooperate? I trust that Jake Sullivan knows who to call to set up meetings at DoD.

You don't. Anyone high enough to get that instruction isn't going to talk about it.



I am familiar with one ASD office, where the transition has gone, and continues to go, beautifully. But that ASD is hypercompetent and mission-focused. Are they all like that? Maybe (probably) not, especially post-purge. That’s why naming specific areas/ASDs would clarify.
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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in and live in Arlington. I drive by the Pentagon almost every day, and the last time I can remember seeing the parking lot as full as it is now during the winter holidays was back when I was in middle school - in December of 2001, when the Afghanistan war was getting started.

It looks like that again now.

Bookmark this post - we are about to start another war. Probably with Iran, with the Israelis helping. Or maybe even against China and Russia. Something is going to happen, and soon.



You gave me a chill because on my Facebook people who live in the area of Fort A.P. Hill are complaining that jets have been scrambling all day, far more than usual. This is Caroline County, south of Fredericksburg. Perhaps it's defensive not offensive preparations?

Somone mentioned missiles and I recalled reading that during the Cold War, D.C. was ringed by missiles. There are pictures on Fairfax Underground.

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/news/2016/may/12/missiles-and-guns-backyard-and-school-parking-lot/
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Anonymous wrote:This is fun to read.

The US has no mobile nukes at this time.

They are antiaircraft missiles and anti missile missiles and they are in numerous places in DC. They have been for a while. Yes I am ok with that because lots of people want to attack us and we need to defend ourselves.

Military does not like trump. Especially general officers. There are a few here and there but most want him gone. They are not conspiring with him.

Iran is quite dangerous. They may try to take advantage of the last few weeks of a nutjob in the whitehouse. That is what I would be worried about.


Ok, but then that begs the question of “what in the hell are they doing at the carderock naval surface warfare center that’s so important that it requires missiles to defend it”?

It looks like dumpy old warehouse facility to me. I read there’s a long swimming pool type thing inside where they test models of ships or something. That doesn’t seem like the kind of place that would be a key target to protect.

Something's not adding up.


Oh my God. Please stop and go do some research. This is painful.


This is what happens when large portions of the country were not in the military or don't understand it. The missiles there are not to defend that location. They are to defend Washington broadly. You have to hit the planes or missiles away from the main targets: white house, pentagon, Capitol. You can't defend a site from the site. You need coverage over the whole area.
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Anonymous wrote:Okay so the US goes to war again in the Middle East. What else is new? We’ll bomb and invade and declare victory and then it’ll all go to shit and we’ll slink away again years later with our tail between our legs, losers yet again. We all know the script. But hey at least people can put cool patriotic bumper stickers on their cars and the defense contractors can get rich!


$6 trilion spent on last two wars + tax cuts for billionaires. Can we just split up the US and be done with it? MAGA baybee!
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Anonymous wrote:If this is correct, hopefully someone with character will stand up to Trump. Not hopeful.


“Character” and “military” are mutually exclusive terms. Remember, these are the same people who bomb hospitals and strap bombs to dolphins. If you’re relying on them to do the right thing, you’re going to be very disappointed


I'm very thankful that my freedoms and those of my family and this country aren't dependent on people like you.


LOL as retired military, the freedoms enjoyed in this country are not won on a battlefield but in the courts. The ACLU lawyers are the ones protecting your freedoms.

The military was very close to taking your rights away this summer....very very close. Milley was right there with trump. Right now the military is planning and war gaming different scenarios involving trump and armed militia groups. These planning sessions are not being shared with civilian leadership.
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