trump has the Pentagon planning something big right now.

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Exactly. That’s what he’s going to do - start a war and use it as a context for declaring martial law. Then use that excuse to justify not leaving office.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but then that begs the question of “what in the hell are they doing at the carderock naval surface warfare center that’s so important that it requires missiles to defend it”?

It looks like dumpy old warehouse facility to me. I read there’s a long swimming pool type thing inside where they test models of ships or something. That doesn’t seem like the kind of place that would be a key target to protect.

Something's not adding up.

They are at Carderock because it's a secured government facility. They don't have to be colocated with what they are trying to defend (which is downtown washington), because they have a range of 70 kilometers.

Then wouldn’t it make more sense to space them out farther away from DC? Like maybe on a mountain top in Frederick or out in the Chesapeake Bay?

Why put them so close to neighborhoods and schools?

Frederick is 80 km out, so barely out of range. Did you know they do secret biological research at the military base in Frederick? Scared yet?

Whut????

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Anonymous wrote:Ok, but then that begs the question of “what in the hell are they doing at the carderock naval surface warfare center that’s so important that it requires missiles to defend it”?

It looks like dumpy old warehouse facility to me. I read there’s a long swimming pool type thing inside where they test models of ships or something. That doesn’t seem like the kind of place that would be a key target to protect.

Something's not adding up.

They are at Carderock because it's a secured government facility. They don't have to be colocated with what they are trying to defend (which is downtown washington), because they have a range of 70 kilometers.

Then wouldn’t it make more sense to space them out farther away from DC? Like maybe on a mountain top in Frederick or out in the Chesapeake Bay?

Why put them so close to neighborhoods and schools?

Frederick is 80 km out, so barely out of range. Did you know they do secret biological research at the military base in Frederick? Scared yet?

Whut????

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Medical_Research_Institute_of_Infectious_Diseases

Point is, there is all kinds of weird crap at military bases and there are a lot of bases near DC of course. I really wouldn't worry about a few anti-aircraft missiles.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.

Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.

I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.

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Anonymous wrote:Crickets from the “rocket expert”

I am not a rocket expert but I have seen the rockets that were there (though it was years ago). They looked just like Patriot Missile batteries that I saw on TV and once in real life during and after the Gulf War. But, since it is only really possible to see the launcher, I guess different types of missiles could be inside.

Here is an article of unknown veracity that suggests I have misidentified the weapon:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3206812

That’s absolutely insane. I had no idea. I’m in palisades. If one of these things exploded it could very well be the end of us. I feel so helpless.

They do not keep nuclear warheads close to populations.
There are many things not military related the *could* cause damage. People have large propane tanks in their yard. Airports have jet fuel. Your neighborhood gas station. The propane tanks at the grocery store. Fertilizer at hardware store.
But yes, get worried about an anti aircraft missile defending the nations capital.

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Anonymous wrote:This is fun to read.

The US has no mobile nukes at this time.

They are antiaircraft missiles and anti missile missiles and they are in numerous places in DC. They have been for a while. Yes I am ok with that because lots of people want to attack us and we need to defend ourselves.

Military does not like trump. Especially general officers. There are a few here and there but most want him gone. They are not conspiring with him.

Iran is quite dangerous. They may try to take advantage of the last few weeks of a nutjob in the whitehouse. That is what I would be worried about.

Ok, but then that begs the question of “what in the hell are they doing at the carderock naval surface warfare center that’s so important that it requires missiles to defend it”?

It looks like dumpy old warehouse facility to me. I read there’s a long swimming pool type thing inside where they test models of ships or something. That doesn’t seem like the kind of place that would be a key target to protect.

Something's not adding up.

Oh my God. Please stop and go do some research. This is painful.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.

Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.

I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.

I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.

Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.

I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.

I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.

Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe. My high-ranking neighbor has been going to work this week, after they stayed in town when originally they were supposed to be gone.

And then there's the fact that the Pentagon cut off contact with the Biden transition.

Not across the board. DH is at the Pentagon. His division prepared transition materials and did briefings. The pause was because of the Solar Winds emergency congressional briefings and the insufficient number of lawyers to review everything in such a compressed time frame, especially with holiday leaves. WaPo reported more briefings are happening this week, probably why your neighbor had to stay. Because of the delayed start and the staffing changes, it's been a little chaotic but it is happening.

I'd buy this if Biden had not publicly complained. That's a pretty bold move for someone like Biden, who has seen a lot of transitions. And Biden surely remembers four years ago when Trump's "team" barely took advantage of the transition briefings and materials they were offered. Senior leadership at my organization were visibly concerned by it. Biden spoke up because things are very much out of the ordinary.

I wish he would be more specific about where he's encountering these road blocks. I know for a fact many DOD transition briefings have already happened, but it would not surprise me if some of the loyalists are obstructing. Although some of them have barely been in their positions for a month and really don't know much.

Biden's NSA came out with specifics today, including no meetings since December 11 and dozens of requests denied or ignored.

Sorry. The 18th.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532022-incoming-national-security-adviser-pentagon-hasnt-granted-meeting

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Anonymous wrote:I was up near Great Falls park over the weekend, and when we were driving by the Navy buildings on the Clara Barton Parkway, my friend pointed out these green and tan steel boxes propped up on trailers. She said they were missile launchers. I thought she was just joking, but then she showed me pictures off the web, and OMG, she was right - they really ARE missile launchers!!!! I’ve never seen them there before. How can the military just put missiles someplace without even telling the public? And there’s no one even guarding them! What if terrorists steal one and try to set it off??? What is happening?!?!?!

I’m calling Senator Chris Van Hollen’s office right now.

The constant helicopter flights are bad enough, but now we’ve got nuclear weapons getting installed in Potomac now? Oh HELL no!

Jeff just said those have been there for a long time.

And you’re ok with that?

I don’t know/care how long they’ve been there. It’s not alright to have a missile base near where so many people live! I thought they put these things out in the middle of the country where no one lives - in the Dakotas or places like that. I’m assuming they did that back then because missiles were probably bigger and used underground control centers. So I guess it’s reasonable to assume that they’ve gotten smaller since the cold war but, seriously, why base them in essentially the middle of a city? That’s insane!

They’re probably defensive SAM sites and they’ve been in the area forever. The Hawk batteries were even more prolific during the Cold War. They are not nuclear ballistic missiles you loon!

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. That’s what he’s going to do - start a war and use it as a context for declaring martial law. Then use that excuse to justify not leaving office.

Do you realize if there was martial law, the country would come to a dead halt? Do you really think that millions would put up with that?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. That’s what he’s going to do - start a war and use it as a context for declaring martial law. Then use that excuse to justify not leaving office.

Do you realize if there was martial law, the country would come to a dead halt? Do you really think that millions would put up with that?

74 million Trumphumpers would go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:I was up near Great Falls park over the weekend, and when we were driving by the Navy buildings on the Clara Barton Parkway, my friend pointed out these green and tan steel boxes propped up on trailers. She said they were missile launchers. I thought she was just joking, but then she showed me pictures off the web, and OMG, she was right - they really ARE missile launchers!!!! I’ve never seen them there before. How can the military just put missiles someplace without even telling the public? And there’s no one even guarding them! What if terrorists steal one and try to set it off??? What is happening?!?!?!

I’m calling Senator Chris Van Hollen’s office right now.

The constant helicopter flights are bad enough, but now we’ve got nuclear weapons getting installed in Potomac now? Oh HELL no!

You do that, sweetheart. Ask to speak to the Senator directly, and tell him exactly what you think. If they won't put you through to him immediately, demand his cell phone number so that you can start texting.

We're counting on you, PP, to get to the bottom of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you guys have gotten infect by the conspiracy virus and would probably do fine over on Parler.

+1. Please take a breath. I’m a Fed and Occums Razor is a thing. We’ve had three close calls on a shutdown this month. During a transition that started late. While half the staff took two weeks off for use or lose. And, Congress is supposed to be on recess. As our medical system collapses under COVID. And while the government is struggling at a max telework posture. And by the way, has the Senate voted on the Defense bill yet? Plus, God knows how bad the solar winds mess is. Sometimes the answer is as simple as we have a big, hard deadline and a ton of shit that must be done no matter what, we are way behind, and the King of Chaos is steering the ship.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you guys have gotten infect by the conspiracy virus and would probably do fine over on Parler.

+1. Please take a breath. I’m a Fed and Occums Razor is a thing. We’ve had three close calls on a shutdown this month. During a transition that started late. While half the staff took two weeks off for use or lose. And, Congress is supposed to be on recess. As our medical system collapses under COVID. And while the government is struggling at a max telework posture. And by the way, has the Senate voted on the Defense bill yet? Plus, God knows how bad the solar winds mess is. Sometimes the answer is as simple as we have a big, hard deadline and a ton of shit that must be done no matter what, we are way behind, and the King of Chaos is steering the ship.

Thank you for this lost and for all the work you and many are doing to keep our country going.