Remind me why we hate Jon Gosselin?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Colins roommate smuggled a letter from Colin out to his Dad
and mailed it.

https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/jon-gosselins-son-collin-begged-him-to-save-him-from-institution/

This is such a horrible story. And as Jon was trying to spend time with Colin, Kate moved him further away? That she didn’t even show up in court during the custody hearings about Colin speaks volumes of who she is as a person.

Colin didn't make her enough money.

[Anonymous]

It's important to know that Kate/TLC filmed the kids in violation of a court order, without work permits, and that the court had determined that filming was not in the best interests of the kids. So many people are Team Jon or Team Kate, and stating the facts of what the courts determined is a good way to open peoples' eyes to what is really going on. Even people who hate Jon would have to accept the fact that the courts determined that filming is not good for the kids, and that Kate is so obsessed with filming that she was literally willing to break the law to do it. That is seriously twisted no matter what team you're on.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

He behaved like that after he lost custody of the kids and basically had no visitation. Court allowed Kate to do what ever she wanted which is pretty typical sadly. He had absolutely no right to say anything that happened in his kids lives. Its not surprising he self-destructed after losing his kids for a while. However, once when his kids were ready to run, he stepped up and took one daughter and fought for his son and would gladly take all the kids but most were brainwashed by then. Those kids had terrible lives being manipulated by their mom and tv and camera's constantly on them. She was abusive to everyone.

Why would any judge deny visitation to an attentive father? There is more to this story. I don't believe Jon. If Kate had been abusing their children physically and psychologically why weren't any charges brought against her?

It is my opinion that Jon was out to get as much money out of the situation as he could get and his greed backfired on him. It'll be interesting to hear Kate's full version of events. I'm sure that she gets no pleasure out of this media circus that her bitter ex is stirring up.

For a guy who didn't want to be in the spotlight, he is sure all about the spotlight now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's important to know that Kate/TLC filmed the kids in violation of a court order, without work permits, and that the court had determined that filming was not in the best interests of the kids. So many people are Team Jon or Team Kate, and stating the facts of what the courts determined is a good way to open peoples' eyes to what is really going on. Even people who hate Jon would have to accept the fact that the courts determined that filming is not good for the kids, and that Kate is so obsessed with filming that she was literally willing to break the law to do it. That is seriously twisted no matter what team you're on.

Apparently, the Kate's and TLC's legal team felt that they could continue filming. So that's what they did.

I don't understand the legalities of it all but Jon had apparently been on board with the reality show for YEARS....until he wasn't. Jon just wanted to walk away with his cut of the money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's important to know that Kate/TLC filmed the kids in violation of a court order, without work permits, and that the court had determined that filming was not in the best interests of the kids. So many people are Team Jon or Team Kate, and stating the facts of what the courts determined is a good way to open peoples' eyes to what is really going on. Even people who hate Jon would have to accept the fact that the courts determined that filming is not good for the kids, and that Kate is so obsessed with filming that she was literally willing to break the law to do it. That is seriously twisted no matter what team you're on.

Apparently, the Kate's and TLC's legal team felt that they could continue filming. So that's what they did.

I don't understand the legalities of it all but Jon had apparently been on board with the reality show for YEARS....until he wasn't. Jon just wanted to walk away with his cut of the money.

What greedy Kate and greedy tlc execs thought is irrelevant. What they did was illegal. Jon was paid as part of the show. He walked away from making more money off his kids b/c he felt and the courts agreed that being on a tv show was harmful to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

He behaved like that after he lost custody of the kids and basically had no visitation. Court allowed Kate to do what ever she wanted which is pretty typical sadly. He had absolutely no right to say anything that happened in his kids lives. Its not surprising he self-destructed after losing his kids for a while. However, once when his kids were ready to run, he stepped up and took one daughter and fought for his son and would gladly take all the kids but most were brainwashed by then. Those kids had terrible lives being manipulated by their mom and tv and camera's constantly on them. She was abusive to everyone.

Why would any judge deny visitation to an attentive father? There is more to this story. I don't believe Jon. If Kate had been abusing their children physically and psychologically why weren't any charges brought against her?

It is my opinion that Jon was out to get as much money out of the situation as he could get and his greed backfired on him. It'll be interesting to hear Kate's full version of events. I'm sure that she gets no pleasure out of this media circus that her bitter ex is stirring up.

For a guy who didn't want to be in the spotlight, he is sure all about the spotlight now.

Courts do it all the time to Dad's. Mom makes up random accusations against Dad. Tells kids to say xxx and they do to make mom happy and Dad loses his rights. I don't really believe either one but I've seen Dad's get screwed (and moms) by false accusations that are hard to disprove. Its he said, she said and the court has to go with "protecting" the kids so regardless of it happened, they weren't there so they have to believe it or choose to as its easiest for the court.

Kate wanted as much money as possible. He wanted out of the filming and be a normal family. So, she made crap up against him to get the kids so she could continue filling.

He's probably in debt millions in attorney and other bills and desperately need the money.

Kate lies. You will never know the truth. She abandoned her son. That speaks volumes. Worst was not only did she abandon him but wouldn't let Dad have him either.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

He behaved like that after he lost custody of the kids and basically had no visitation. Court allowed Kate to do what ever she wanted which is pretty typical sadly. He had absolutely no right to say anything that happened in his kids lives. Its not surprising he self-destructed after losing his kids for a while. However, once when his kids were ready to run, he stepped up and took one daughter and fought for his son and would gladly take all the kids but most were brainwashed by then. Those kids had terrible lives being manipulated by their mom and tv and camera's constantly on them. She was abusive to everyone.

Why would any judge deny visitation to an attentive father? There is more to this story. I don't believe Jon. If Kate had been abusing their children physically and psychologically why weren't any charges brought against her?

It is my opinion that Jon was out to get as much money out of the situation as he could get and his greed backfired on him. It'll be interesting to hear Kate's full version of events. I'm sure that she gets no pleasure out of this media circus that her bitter ex is stirring up.

For a guy who didn't want to be in the spotlight, he is sure all about the spotlight now.

Courts do it all the time to Dad's. Mom makes up random accusations against Dad. Tells kids to say xxx and they do to make mom happy and Dad loses his rights. I don't really believe either one but I've seen Dad's get screwed (and moms) by false accusations that are hard to disprove. Its he said, she said and the court has to go with "protecting" the kids so regardless of it happened, they weren't there so they have to believe it or choose to as its easiest for the court.

Kate wanted as much money as possible. He wanted out of the filming and be a normal family. So, she made crap up against him to get the kids so she could continue filling.

He's probably in debt millions in attorney and other bills and desperately need the money.

Kate lies. You will never know the truth. She abandoned her son. That speaks volumes. Worst was not only did she abandon him but wouldn't let Dad have him either.

Yes, sometimes there are terrible lies told in court. If Kate told lies about Jon in order to secure a better financial situation for herself and deny Jon his parental rights then she is pure scum. But if she fought for her right to continue to provide for her children then that was totally reasonable for her to do.

Judging from the actions of both Jon and Kate over the years I'm going to side with Kate on this. Ultimately, she is the one who has kept a roof over her children's heads while Jon was off barely working and sleeping around. Now he has decided to air dirt about Kate and accuse her of all sorts of wrongdoing.

Jon has been acting in his own selfish self interests for years and it's no surprise that he continues to be selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

He behaved like that after he lost custody of the kids and basically had no visitation. Court allowed Kate to do what ever she wanted which is pretty typical sadly. He had absolutely no right to say anything that happened in his kids lives. Its not surprising he self-destructed after losing his kids for a while. However, once when his kids were ready to run, he stepped up and took one daughter and fought for his son and would gladly take all the kids but most were brainwashed by then. Those kids had terrible lives being manipulated by their mom and tv and camera's constantly on them. She was abusive to everyone.

Why would any judge deny visitation to an attentive father? There is more to this story. I don't believe Jon. If Kate had been abusing their children physically and psychologically why weren't any charges brought against her?

It is my opinion that Jon was out to get as much money out of the situation as he could get and his greed backfired on him. It'll be interesting to hear Kate's full version of events. I'm sure that she gets no pleasure out of this media circus that her bitter ex is stirring up.

For a guy who didn't want to be in the spotlight, he is sure all about the spotlight now.

Courts do it all the time to Dad's. Mom makes up random accusations against Dad. Tells kids to say xxx and they do to make mom happy and Dad loses his rights. I don't really believe either one but I've seen Dad's get screwed (and moms) by false accusations that are hard to disprove. Its he said, she said and the court has to go with "protecting" the kids so regardless of it happened, they weren't there so they have to believe it or choose to as its easiest for the court.

Kate wanted as much money as possible. He wanted out of the filming and be a normal family. So, she made crap up against him to get the kids so she could continue filling.

He's probably in debt millions in attorney and other bills and desperately need the money.

Kate lies. You will never know the truth. She abandoned her son. That speaks volumes. Worst was not only did she abandon him but wouldn't let Dad have him either.

Yes, sometimes there are terrible lies told in court. If Kate told lies about Jon in order to secure a better financial situation for herself and deny Jon his parental rights then she is pure scum. But if she fought for her right to continue to provide for her children then that was totally reasonable for her to do.

Judging from the actions of both Jon and Kate over the years I'm going to side with Kate on this. Ultimately, she is the one who has kept a roof over her children's heads while Jon was off barely working and sleeping around. Now he has decided to air dirt about Kate and accuse her of all sorts of wrongdoing.

Jon has been acting in his own selfish self interests for years and it's no surprise that he continues to be selfish.

There were far better ways to support the kids than putting them on tv. Those kids supported themselves, not her. Without the kids, no show. Those kids had no choice. Collin probably hated it so she hid him. Have you seen some of the older girls interviews. They are not happy kids. She could work a normal job. Kate is horrible.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, Kate fought in court to allow the kids to appear on the show and she LOST. She’s broken court rulings repeatedly. She’s the one who needs to go to a psychiatric hospital.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

He behaved like that after he lost custody of the kids and basically had no visitation. Court allowed Kate to do what ever she wanted which is pretty typical sadly. He had absolutely no right to say anything that happened in his kids lives. Its not surprising he self-destructed after losing his kids for a while. However, once when his kids were ready to run, he stepped up and took one daughter and fought for his son and would gladly take all the kids but most were brainwashed by then. Those kids had terrible lives being manipulated by their mom and tv and camera's constantly on them. She was abusive to everyone.

Why would any judge deny visitation to an attentive father? There is more to this story. I don't believe Jon. If Kate had been abusing their children physically and psychologically why weren't any charges brought against her?

It is my opinion that Jon was out to get as much money out of the situation as he could get and his greed backfired on him. It'll be interesting to hear Kate's full version of events. I'm sure that she gets no pleasure out of this media circus that her bitter ex is stirring up.

For a guy who didn't want to be in the spotlight, he is sure all about the spotlight now.

Courts do it all the time to Dad's. Mom makes up random accusations against Dad. Tells kids to say xxx and they do to make mom happy and Dad loses his rights. I don't really believe either one but I've seen Dad's get screwed (and moms) by false accusations that are hard to disprove. Its he said, she said and the court has to go with "protecting" the kids so regardless of it happened, they weren't there so they have to believe it or choose to as its easiest for the court.

Kate wanted as much money as possible. He wanted out of the filming and be a normal family. So, she made crap up against him to get the kids so she could continue filling.

He's probably in debt millions in attorney and other bills and desperately need the money.

Kate lies. You will never know the truth. She abandoned her son. That speaks volumes. Worst was not only did she abandon him but wouldn't let Dad have him either.

Yes, sometimes there are terrible lies told in court. If Kate told lies about Jon in order to secure a better financial situation for herself and deny Jon his parental rights then she is pure scum. But if she fought for her right to continue to provide for her children then that was totally reasonable for her to do.

Judging from the actions of both Jon and Kate over the years I'm going to side with Kate on this. Ultimately, she is the one who has kept a roof over her children's heads while Jon was off barely working and sleeping around. Now he has decided to air dirt about Kate and accuse her of all sorts of wrongdoing.

Jon has been acting in his own selfish self interests for years and it's no surprise that he continues to be selfish.

There were far better ways to support the kids than putting them on tv. Those kids supported themselves, not her. Without the kids, no show. Those kids had no choice. Collin probably hated it so she hid him. Have you seen some of the older girls interviews. They are not happy kids. She could work a normal job. Kate is horrible.

Collin had some emotional/behavioral problems that Kate was unsuccessful dealing with at home. I would imagine that putting Collin into that residential treatment school was a gut wrenching decision. To her credit she is preserving Collin's privacy by NOT talking about why he was placed there and what he was being treated for.

At some point, Jon decided to get Collin out of the treatment school and I would imagine that Kate was advised by her own lawyer that there wasn't much she could do to stop Jon from taking Collin out of the program and bringing him home to live with him.

I don't think it's fair to blame Collin's issues on Kate when we really don't even know what his issues are. I respect Kate for refusing to hash this all out in the court of public opinion. Collin is just a kid and I'm sure that Kate was doing the best that she knew how to do for him. Seeking treatment for her son was not hiding him away, btw. She knew that Collin would be talking to therapists and other staff and that there would be no secrets once that happens. *Jon* is the one who didn't want his son in treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

He behaved like that after he lost custody of the kids and basically had no visitation. Court allowed Kate to do what ever she wanted which is pretty typical sadly. He had absolutely no right to say anything that happened in his kids lives. Its not surprising he self-destructed after losing his kids for a while. However, once when his kids were ready to run, he stepped up and took one daughter and fought for his son and would gladly take all the kids but most were brainwashed by then. Those kids had terrible lives being manipulated by their mom and tv and camera's constantly on them. She was abusive to everyone.

Why would any judge deny visitation to an attentive father? There is more to this story. I don't believe Jon. If Kate had been abusing their children physically and psychologically why weren't any charges brought against her?

It is my opinion that Jon was out to get as much money out of the situation as he could get and his greed backfired on him. It'll be interesting to hear Kate's full version of events. I'm sure that she gets no pleasure out of this media circus that her bitter ex is stirring up.

For a guy who didn't want to be in the spotlight, he is sure all about the spotlight now.

Courts do it all the time to Dad's. Mom makes up random accusations against Dad. Tells kids to say xxx and they do to make mom happy and Dad loses his rights. I don't really believe either one but I've seen Dad's get screwed (and moms) by false accusations that are hard to disprove. Its he said, she said and the court has to go with "protecting" the kids so regardless of it happened, they weren't there so they have to believe it or choose to as its easiest for the court.

Kate wanted as much money as possible. He wanted out of the filming and be a normal family. So, she made crap up against him to get the kids so she could continue filling.

He's probably in debt millions in attorney and other bills and desperately need the money.

Kate lies. You will never know the truth. She abandoned her son. That speaks volumes. Worst was not only did she abandon him but wouldn't let Dad have him either.

Yes, sometimes there are terrible lies told in court. If Kate told lies about Jon in order to secure a better financial situation for herself and deny Jon his parental rights then she is pure scum. But if she fought for her right to continue to provide for her children then that was totally reasonable for her to do.

Judging from the actions of both Jon and Kate over the years I'm going to side with Kate on this. Ultimately, she is the one who has kept a roof over her children's heads while Jon was off barely working and sleeping around. Now he has decided to air dirt about Kate and accuse her of all sorts of wrongdoing.

Jon has been acting in his own selfish self interests for years and it's no surprise that he continues to be selfish.

There were far better ways to support the kids than putting them on tv. Those kids supported themselves, not her. Without the kids, no show. Those kids had no choice. Collin probably hated it so she hid him. Have you seen some of the older girls interviews. They are not happy kids. She could work a normal job. Kate is horrible.

Collin had some emotional/behavioral problems that Kate was unsuccessful dealing with at home. I would imagine that putting Collin into that residential treatment school was a gut wrenching decision. To her credit she is preserving Collin's privacy by NOT talking about why he was placed there and what he was being treated for.

At some point, Jon decided to get Collin out of the treatment school and I would imagine that Kate was advised by her own lawyer that there wasn't much she could do to stop Jon from taking Collin out of the program and bringing him home to live with him.

I don't think it's fair to blame Collin's issues on Kate when we really don't even know what his issues are. I respect Kate for refusing to hash this all out in the court of public opinion. Collin is just a kid and I'm sure that Kate was doing the best that she knew how to do for him. Seeking treatment for her son was not hiding him away, btw. She knew that Collin would be talking to therapists and other staff and that there would be no secrets once that happens. *Jon* is the one who didn't want his son in treatment.

Kate cared about image and not Collin. She did not want him. Rtf,s are the absolute last resort and most are not good or nice places. Funny thing, he looks like he is thriving with Dad. She hid him for years. She should have given him to Dad first. Most parents would not agree to a facility in less there were no other options. Dad was on option. Kids belong at home when possible. We do not know his needs which makes it all the more concerning. He deserved to live at home not a facility. Glad he is with dad.

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People who think Kate put her son in psychiatric hospital for his benefit are extremely gullible. She was absolutely vindictive in placing him there instead of his other parent first.

The gag order has run out and her ability to control the narrative is unraveling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who think Kate put her son in psychiatric hospital for his benefit are extremely gullible. She was absolutely vindictive in placing him there instead of his other parent first.

The gag order has run out and her ability to control the narrative is unraveling.

It would be horrible of Jon to talk about the very personal details of Collin's psychiatric issues. I truly hope for Collin's sake that he is doing well living with his dad and that he has been able to overcome any issues that he might have.

I do not blame Kate for putting Collin in the psychiatric hospital. She must have thought that her son desperately needed help. I'm sure she considered this placement to be temporary and that Kate planned to have Collin return to live with her once his therapy had been completed.

[Anonymous]

What Jon is doing now is just plain nasty. He is full out trying to ruin Kate. I think he's the one being abusive to be quite honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who think Kate put her son in psychiatric hospital for his benefit are extremely gullible. She was absolutely vindictive in placing him there instead of his other parent first.

The gag order has run out and her ability to control the narrative is unraveling.

It would be horrible of Jon to talk about the very personal details of Collin's psychiatric issues. I truly hope for Collin's sake that he is doing well living with his dad and that he has been able to overcome any issues that he might have.

I do not blame Kate for putting Collin in the psychiatric hospital. She must have thought that her son desperately needed help. I'm sure she considered this placement to be temporary and that Kate planned to have Collin return to live with her once his therapy had been completed.

If she was so caring why did she only visit him three times in three years? She should have given him up to Jon. How tragic that he spent all of those birthdays, Christmas, Easters, alone. To go from living with 7 siblings to be locked up alone-it is just so sad.