Remind me why we hate Jon Gosselin?

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

Uhm, no, he wanted the kids to quit the show. They are his kids too.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

Uhm, no, he wanted the kids to quit the show. They are his kids too.

O.k. He quit the show, divorced Kate but Kate and the kids continued on the show. So how did Jon divorcing Kate achieve anything other than Jon was then a single man who was free to go to bars and hook up with women...

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

Uhm, no, he wanted the kids to quit the show. They are his kids too.

O.k. He quit the show, divorced Kate but Kate and the kids continued on the show. So how did Jon divorcing Kate achieve anything other than Jon was then a single man who was free to go to bars and hook up with women...

Well Kate divorced him when he wouldn't film. I'm sure he didn't go into it thinking he will lose the legal battle. He sank almost 2 million into it and TLC paid for Kate. I'm sure the truth about that is somewhere in the middle but he has never wavered from his story that he didn't want the kids to film because he thought it was bad for them. She really likes the celebrity and the money it was bringing in and obviously didn't care about John's objections.

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2 million would be worth it to excise that harpy

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

Uhm, no, he wanted the kids to quit the show. They are his kids too.

O.k. He quit the show, divorced Kate but Kate and the kids continued on the show. So how did Jon divorcing Kate achieve anything other than Jon was then a single man who was free to go to bars and hook up with women...

Well Kate divorced him when he wouldn't film. I'm sure he didn't go into it thinking he will lose the legal battle. He sank almost 2 million into it and TLC paid for Kate. I'm sure the truth about that is somewhere in the middle but he has never wavered from his story that he didn't want the kids to film because he thought it was bad for them. She really likes the celebrity and the money it was bringing in and obviously didn't care about John's objections.

Well she must have disagreed with him and she apparently was able to keep herself and the kids on the show. That was their livelihood and Kate wasn't just going to chuck it out the window because Jon wanted her to. She must have found his request unreasonable and that is why she divorced him. Irreconcilable differences. It happens. Kate won in court and Jon needs to get over it.

I'm sure that Kate was not an easy person to be married to, I will give Jon that. But I also think that it was mainly Kate who kept a roof over their children's heads and food on the table. She gets credit for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

Uhm, no, he wanted the kids to quit the show. They are his kids too.

O.k. He quit the show, divorced Kate but Kate and the kids continued on the show. So how did Jon divorcing Kate achieve anything other than Jon was then a single man who was free to go to bars and hook up with women...

Well Kate divorced him when he wouldn't film. I'm sure he didn't go into it thinking he will lose the legal battle. He sank almost 2 million into it and TLC paid for Kate. I'm sure the truth about that is somewhere in the middle but he has never wavered from his story that he didn't want the kids to film because he thought it was bad for them. She really likes the celebrity and the money it was bringing in and obviously didn't care about John's objections.

Well she must have disagreed with him and she apparently was able to keep herself and the kids on the show. That was their livelihood and Kate wasn't just going to chuck it out the window because Jon wanted her to. She must have found his request unreasonable and that is why she divorced him. Irreconcilable differences. It happens. Kate won in court and Jon needs to get over it.

I'm sure that Kate was not an easy person to be married to, I will give Jon that. But I also think that it was mainly Kate who kept a roof over their children's heads and food on the table. She gets credit for that.

PLENTY of people raise kids without whoring their children on TV day in and day out. They both had careers before they had children. She just liked the money and the spotlight. Do you normally consider yourself to be the tiebreaker and an ultimatum setter in your marriage? She won in court because she had more money (which is almost always the case) not because she was necessarily right. She could have compromised in some way, cut back the hours they were filming, excluded certain moments of their lives. But she said, "it's my way or the highway." I'm not trying to say John is an angel, but Kate is bat shit crazy.

[Anonymous]

And a pimp who traffics underage children feeds them and keeps a roof over their heads. No, Kate doesn’t get credit for exploiting her kids to maintain the high life.

[Anonymous]

He got Collin out of an institution, so I give him a TON of credit for that. What I don't understand is why he sounds so disempowered in a lot of interviews about child custody. But I know he was limited in what he could say, and that a parent (Kate) determined to institutionalize a child can really have a lot of power.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-claims-son-collin-was-wrongly-institutionalized-on-dr-oz/

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They're both trash. The end.

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Anonymous wrote:He is the good guy. Kate is the one with problem. Using kids to make money. How sick is that?

Seriously. I can kind of understand why they did it at the beginning, when they were living in the normal house and both had regular jobs...Jon worked in IT and Kate was a nurse. But after a season or two it went WAY beyond just "we're doing this for college/bills/etc." They moved to the million dollar house, plastic surgery, trips to Australia and New Zealand and Hawaii and Alaska and it was clearly not "for the kids"...it was to feed Kate's ego and get her the fame and money she thought she "deserved"...on the backs of her children. Jon rightfully tried to put a stop to it.

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Anonymous wrote:He got Collin out of an institution, so I give him a TON of credit for that. What I don't understand is why he sounds so disempowered in a lot of interviews about child custody. But I know he was limited in what he could say, and that a parent (Kate) determined to institutionalize a child can really have a lot of power.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-claims-son-collin-was-wrongly-institutionalized-on-dr-oz/

She had full custody. He did not. Colin was an obstacle to the image she wanted to project for the tv show. She couldn’t divorce him so she institutionalized him.

Jon has custody of 2 kids. Lucky them.

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Anonymous wrote:Last I heard Jon was waiting tables. I know that he used to be in IT and Kate used to be a nurse...that was before TLC.

Now Kate is a reality t.v. show star and Jon is remarried with custody of 2 of the sextuplets.

I think Jon is bitter towards Kate. He wanted the divorce and I think he underestimated her star power and Kate's ability to support herself. I think he really thought that when he ended his involvement in the show that would be the end of it for Kate, too. They would become "normal" people again, figure out custody, split up assets...and go live there regular lives as regular people. He tried to go under the radar but Kate kept herself (and the kids) in the spotlight. Maybe he's come to terms with the fact that he is never going to have a normal life again, he'll always be recognizable...so now he can talk again. Might as well make the best of it.

Jon works fulltime in IT now.

Kate isn't a reality TV star. She desperately wants to be one, hence the fact she illegally filmed her children, but that ship has sailed. No one cares.

Jon isn't remarried. He has a long term girlfriend.

He didn't want the divorce. He wanted to quit the show, and Kate basically said...show or divorce. TLC offered him literally millions of dollars to stay married for the sake of the TV show.

He's talking now because a 10-year gag order on him has been lifted. And because his ex-wife dumped their 11 year old son in a psychiatric facility for years and refused to tell him where he was.

It sounds like he gave Kate an ultimatum. Quit the show/lose their income OR divorce him. Jon actually was the one calling the shots. He could have said that he wanted to greatly reduce his involvement or eliminate himself entirely from the show without divorcing Kate. But Jon was basically demanding that she quit the show, too, or he did not want to remain married.

Kate chose to stay on the show and continue to bring in the money that supported their children. Jon ran off and started sleeping around and playing the single guy. Oh, I remember well how he behaved...

Uhm, no, he wanted the kids to quit the show. They are his kids too.

O.k. He quit the show, divorced Kate but Kate and the kids continued on the show. So how did Jon divorcing Kate achieve anything other than Jon was then a single man who was free to go to bars and hook up with women...

Well Kate divorced him when he wouldn't film. I'm sure he didn't go into it thinking he will lose the legal battle. He sank almost 2 million into it and TLC paid for Kate. I'm sure the truth about that is somewhere in the middle but he has never wavered from his story that he didn't want the kids to film because he thought it was bad for them. She really likes the celebrity and the money it was bringing in and obviously didn't care about John's objections.

Well she must have disagreed with him and she apparently was able to keep herself and the kids on the show. That was their livelihood and Kate wasn't just going to chuck it out the window because Jon wanted her to. She must have found his request unreasonable and that is why she divorced him. Irreconcilable differences. It happens. Kate won in court and Jon needs to get over it.

I'm sure that Kate was not an easy person to be married to, I will give Jon that. But I also think that it was mainly Kate who kept a roof over their children's heads and food on the table. She gets credit for that.

If your "livelihood" involves sticking a camera in your kid's face and broadcasting some of their most person moments on national TV for millions and millions to see - family vacations, Christmas, tantrums, getting sick with the flu, potty training, installing a camera in their bedrooms, sibling squabbles, etc. - just so you can have a huge house and spa treatments and go on free trips...well then you are a gross person. Jon eventually came around and realized this (and Kate divorced him for it)...his ex-wife is literally STILL trying to make money off the backs of her kids. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He got Collin out of an institution, so I give him a TON of credit for that. What I don't understand is why he sounds so disempowered in a lot of interviews about child custody. But I know he was limited in what he could say, and that a parent (Kate) determined to institutionalize a child can really have a lot of power.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-claims-son-collin-was-wrongly-institutionalized-on-dr-oz/

She had full custody. He did not. Colin was an obstacle to the image she wanted to project for the tv show. She couldn’t divorce him so she institutionalized him.

Jon has custody of 2 kids. Lucky them.

I follow Jon on Instagram (I know, judge away). He seems to have friends, hobbies, regularly spends time with his siblings/family, and is in a committed relationship. And he has a normal job. Kate appears to have alienated her entire family, has no friends, and no job.

He seems like a far healthier and functional person than his ex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He got Collin out of an institution, so I give him a TON of credit for that. What I don't understand is why he sounds so disempowered in a lot of interviews about child custody. But I know he was limited in what he could say, and that a parent (Kate) determined to institutionalize a child can really have a lot of power.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-claims-son-collin-was-wrongly-institutionalized-on-dr-oz/

She had full custody. He did not. Colin was an obstacle to the image she wanted to project for the tv show. She couldn’t divorce him so she institutionalized him.

Jon has custody of 2 kids. Lucky them.

I follow Jon on Instagram (I know, judge away). He seems to have friends, hobbies, regularly spends time with his siblings/family, and is in a committed relationship. And he has a normal job. Kate appears to have alienated her entire family, has no friends, and no job.

He seems like a far healthier and functional person than his ex.

He also hasn't been raising 8 kids for the past several years, either. That probably gives a person lots of time to cultivate normalcy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He got Collin out of an institution, so I give him a TON of credit for that. What I don't understand is why he sounds so disempowered in a lot of interviews about child custody. But I know he was limited in what he could say, and that a parent (Kate) determined to institutionalize a child can really have a lot of power.

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jon-gosselin-claims-son-collin-was-wrongly-institutionalized-on-dr-oz/

She had full custody. He did not. Colin was an obstacle to the image she wanted to project for the tv show. She couldn’t divorce him so she institutionalized him.

Jon has custody of 2 kids. Lucky them.

I follow Jon on Instagram (I know, judge away). He seems to have friends, hobbies, regularly spends time with his siblings/family, and is in a committed relationship. And he has a normal job. Kate appears to have alienated her entire family, has no friends, and no job.

He seems like a far healthier and functional person than his ex.

He also hasn't been raising 8 kids for the past several years, either. That probably gives a person lots of time to cultivate normalcy.

Np.

Please. She had nannies and assistants and household staff, without actually having a job. Kate was far from struggling. I have far more respect for Octomom.