Remind me why we hate Jon Gosselin?

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Anonymous wrote:She looks incredible.

Scary mommy.

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Anonymous wrote:Until this thread, I honestly did not know that there were people who sided with Kate. Very eye opening.

I tend to side with the parent who actually both supported and raised the children. That's Kate.

Jon is swooping in now after the work has been done to try to collect on "his share". He's delusional if he thinks he deserves a dime.

There were gag and restraining orders against him. He had a visitation order and Kate refused to follow it. He wasn't allow to be an active part of the kids lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I think 15 year old teenagers are old enough to decide whether they want to be filmed or not.

Yes, because 15 year olds make good decisions all the time.

There are plenty of teenage celebrities that are used to being in the spotlight. They aren't babies anymore, their dad hasn't been a part of their lives for awhile and if they are comfortable being on camera with their mom why shouldn't they be able to do so?

Jon is being vindictive at this point and just hurting Kate because he can. Ironically, Jon is the one hitting the talk shows and dishing out embarrassing little tidbits about his ex wife and his own children.

John is trying to be a parent and put the kids first. Wing on tv and no privacy is not a childhood. John has been slandered for years and under a gag order. Good for him.

Those celebrity teenagers are by choice and not 24-7 with cameras.

Jon is the one who doesn't want the kids to be on camera. The kids are clearly not the ones saying that they don't want to be on camera. As always, Jon is putting his own wants first and completely ignoring the fact that Kate and their kids are separate entities who have the right to live their own lives as they see fit.

Kate objects to Jon's attempts to control her and I can't blame her. Jon is winning on legal technicalities, not because his kids agree with a thing that he is doing to "stand up for them". Like Cara and Maddie they probably resent the heck out of their dad for intruding into their lives in such a contentious way.

How do you know the kids liked being filmed? Do you have any idea how many hours of filming are required for a30 minute episode? That is hard work for a child, why do you think labor laws exist for child actors. A few years ago, one of the twins didn’t want to go on “vacation” for filming, Jon went to pick her up and Kate threatened to have him arrested. How is that looking out for the best interest of your children?

I haven't seen the most recent tapings of the kids but my impression is that they were more little snippets of their reactions to the Kate + Date show. I highly doubt that they were working any more hours than the typical HS kid works at their PT job flipping burgers.

The whole thing seems very spiteful. I am not aware of the incident where Jon came to "rescue" one of the twins from going on a vacation with Kate. I am aware of how both Maddie and Cara have expressed how much they dislike their father's conduct and interference. They are old enough to remember how things played out between their parents and they have sided with their mom for good reason.

Do you have any idea how many shows have been filmed since the TV show started and how many hours of filming needs to happen for one show.

Kate was found in contempt of court: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/kate-gosselin-contempt-court-filming-minor-children-tlc-show-without-permits

The contempt of court is apparently related to *recent* filming though, isn't it? And that finding is based on Kate not providing Jon with an itinerary of their filming schedule.

Judging by how contentious Jon is being towards her in court and in t.v. interviews I can not blame her for feeling uncomfortable sharing details of her and their teenagers' schedules like that.

He is THIS close to being a stalker. She looks very worried, maybe even afraid in some of the court pictures. She needs to be able to live her life and support herself. Her teenagers need to be able to freely choose to film or not to film. Her, now adult, twin daughters choose to support their mom.

For Jon it's all about control and what HE wants. He's not listening to his other 6 children.

Jon is their father and he has every right to have 50% say in his children's upbringing. You sound as bad as she is. The teenagers don't have a choice. Those kids have never had a choice. She could get a job, move to a regular house and provide for her kids rather than selling her kids to a tv show. Those kids have never had a normal life or know any different. She constantly badmouths Jon who early on wanted to stop the TV show which was the cause of the divorce.

Jon needed to consent to the filing.. Not just being notified of it.

Those teenagers have the option of going to live with Jon if they hate being with their mother. You think they don't know that? You think that Jon wouldn't jump at the opportunity to bring all of those kids to his house and then demand BIG support payments from Kate?

Come on. Why do you think he's suddenly so damned interested in being a father again? Easy, peasy support money is what he's going for. And if the kids stay with Kate instead, he's going to make all of their lives a living misery because he is just awful.

Its not about the money. He wants his kids. He has always wanted them and was kept away from them. He isn't awful, she is. You do realize she sent one of the kids to a mental institution for years, didn't visit or care he was over medicated and hid him from his Dad. Dad went to court for years to find out where he was and finally got him.

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Anonymous wrote:Until this thread, I honestly did not know that there were people who sided with Kate. Very eye opening.

Personally I am convinced they are PR handlers for Kate. They sound too irrational to be anything other than paid shills.

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Watch the early episodes and you’ll side with him. He didn’t want more kids and Kate went and had SIX MORE.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch the early episodes and you’ll side with him. He didn’t want more kids and Kate went and had SIX MORE.

If he didn't want more kids why in the hell did he have more kids? Couldn't he have gotten a vasectomy?

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Anonymous wrote:Until this thread, I honestly did not know that there were people who sided with Kate. Very eye opening.

I tend to side with the parent who actually both supported and raised the children. That's Kate.

Jon is swooping in now after the work has been done to try to collect on "his share". He's delusional if he thinks he deserves a dime.

Do you think this woman—who is so committed to her makeovers, plastic surgeries, dating bodyguards, going on book tours really gives a toss about her kids:

You think she should have just quit TLC and gone back to looking like picture #1? You seriously want to beat her up for looking good? That's really very sad.

Now that Jon has finally started to work on that gigantic, lazy azzed beer belly of his and is dressing like a grown man we're all supposed to be impressed and praise him for it? Come on. The double standard is amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:She looks incredible.

She looks like a FoxNews host. Ick.

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Kate is awful:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7805741/Kate-Gosselin-contempt-filming-underage-kids-WITHOUT-work-permits.html

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I don't understand the part about 3 years in a facility. Anyone I've known who had kids who needed treatment-can't hardly get it and if they actually found it, it's for like 30 days. Was he at a boarding school?

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There are tons of therapeutic boarding schools if you're willing to pay for them.

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I don't understand the need to pick Kate over Jon or Jon over Kate. They're both terrible for different reasons.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't understand the part about 3 years in a facility. Anyone I've known who had kids who needed treatment-can't hardly get it and if they actually found it, it's for like 30 days. Was he at a boarding school?

She has the money to pay. Anything can be done when you have money.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the need to pick Kate over Jon or Jon over Kate. They're both terrible for different reasons.

Yes but she's much, much worse. Hence the comparisons.

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Anonymous wrote:There are tons of therapeutic boarding schools if you're willing to pay for them.

It was a treatment facility not boarding school. Forget the name but it was listed online. It’s a private for profit. It gets horrible reviews. She never would even visit.