People in Crisis - Why do they continue to have children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Humans are social animals.

Let me repeat that for the know-it-all doofuses who struggle with basic facts upthread...

Humans are social animals.

That means whether they're rich and comfortably settled in a good environment or dirt poor and traveling thousands of miles to get to another country in hope of better opportunity people are going to interact with one another.

Humans are social animals.
It bears repeating one more time.

That means they're going to establish connections they're going to develop affinities they're going to seek companionship's they're going to form relationships and (SURPRISE!!) they're going to do the nasty and if you recall from those early lessons about the birds and the bees that's how babies are made.

Now if you don't know what pleasure people get out of doing the nasty, well you're probably one of the folks frequently flooding the Relationships Forum complaining about your husband cheating on you or your wife treating you like shit.

So we take those two things...
#1 Humans are social animals
#2 People get pleasure out of doing the nasty
And when we throw in the lack of contraception as many previous posters have mentioned and then when you mix those three things up with numerous other cultural and emotional and psychological factors and VIOLA!!!

There's your answer as to why people even when they're in less than ideal circumstances still manage to procreate.

Any other questions?

+1

Best response yet.

[Anonymous]

Simple:

Sex - education = babies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

True, but being educated in how to prevent pregnancy doesn’t necessarily imply a broader education. Speaking as a third world person, most of those people would have unplanned babies regardless.

Do the educated ones(who weren’t violated) even have those babies? If I were in their position, I wouldn’t have traditional sex at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

True, but being educated in how to prevent pregnancy doesn’t necessarily imply a broader education. Speaking as a third world person, most of those people would have unplanned babies regardless.

Do the educated ones(who weren’t violated) even have those babies? If I were in their position, I wouldn’t have traditional sex at all.

Wonderful that you had a choice about having sex. Because I know many women didn’t have the choice to have traditional sex. Or the choice to be married. Or many things, that I suspect you take for granted as choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

True, but being educated in how to prevent pregnancy doesn’t necessarily imply a broader education. Speaking as a third world person, most of those people would have unplanned babies regardless.

Do the educated ones(who weren’t violated) even have those babies? If I were in their position, I wouldn’t have traditional sex at all.

Wonderful that you had a choice about having sex. Because I know many women didn’t have the choice to have traditional sex. Or the choice to be married. Or many things, that I suspect you take for granted as choices.

I specified “who weren’t violated”.

[Anonymous]

So if it is as you guys say that they are being raped... how come we are letting a bunch of rapist men come into this country? There are a lot of males coming over the Mexican border.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

True, but being educated in how to prevent pregnancy doesn’t necessarily imply a broader education. Speaking as a third world person, most of those people would have unplanned babies regardless.

Do the educated ones(who weren’t violated) even have those babies? If I were in their position, I wouldn’t have traditional sex at all.

Wonderful that you had a choice about having sex. Because I know many women didn’t have the choice to have traditional sex. Or the choice to be married. Or many things, that I suspect you take for granted as choices.

I specified “who weren’t violated”.

Do you even know how many of your neighbours were violated? How do you determine this? Yes u can be educated and still be “violated” due to cultural values, etc.

Heck, you can be a white, UMC woman in the middle of DC with a great job title, three kids, a Biglaw/ executive Husband, have voting rights, an insurance plan and STILL be “violated”.

[Anonymous]

I have wondered this too OP. I see footage from like Syria, Sudan, and other war torn countries and I'm like "isn't sex like the last thing on your mind?"
Now granted, I know there is rape and pillaging in those places, so sad, but surely there are circumstances where that isn't the case...even in places like our own country (Appalachia for example) where it is super poor, how do families/people bring more dependents onto themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have wondered this too OP. I see footage from like Syria, Sudan, and other war torn countries and I'm like "isn't sex like the last thing on your mind?"
Now granted, I know there is rape and pillaging in those places, so sad, but surely there are circumstances where that isn't the case...even in places like our own country (Appalachia for example) where it is super poor, how do families/people bring more dependents onto themselves.

Have you even read or considered the responses given on the thread already?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

True, but being educated in how to prevent pregnancy doesn’t necessarily imply a broader education. Speaking as a third world person, most of those people would have unplanned babies regardless.

Do the educated ones(who weren’t violated) even have those babies? If I were in their position, I wouldn’t have traditional sex at all.

Wonderful that you had a choice about having sex. Because I know many women didn’t have the choice to have traditional sex. Or the choice to be married. Or many things, that I suspect you take for granted as choices.

I specified “who weren’t violated”.

Do you even know how many of your neighbours were violated? How do you determine this? Yes u can be educated and still be “violated” due to cultural values, etc.

Heck, you can be a white, UMC woman in the middle of DC with a great job title, three kids, a Biglaw/ executive Husband, have voting rights, an insurance plan and STILL be “violated”.

Apples and oranges.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like OP never had to trade sex for a ride, food, medicine, safety.... when you’re a refugee what locked door do you have between yourself and men who would exploit the situation? Never mind birth control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple:

Sex - education = babies

Except that when we're talking about refugee populations, we're talking about people at all levels of education.

Someone can be educated in how to prevent pregnancy, and yet not be able to use those strategies because of circumstance.

True, but being educated in how to prevent pregnancy doesn’t necessarily imply a broader education. Speaking as a third world person, most of those people would have unplanned babies regardless.

Do the educated ones(who weren’t violated) even have those babies? If I were in their position, I wouldn’t have traditional sex at all.

Wonderful that you had a choice about having sex. Because I know many women didn’t have the choice to have traditional sex. Or the choice to be married. Or many things, that I suspect you take for granted as choices.

I specified “who weren’t violated”.

Do you even know how many of your neighbours were violated? How do you determine this? Yes u can be educated and still be “violated” due to cultural values, etc.

Heck, you can be a white, UMC woman in the middle of DC with a great job title, three kids, a Biglaw/ executive Husband, have voting rights, an insurance plan and STILL be “violated”.

Apples and oranges.

While I agree somewhat, the fact that OP seems blind to fruit at all is the issue.

[Anonymous]

OP your implied idea that the only women who should have kids are those fortunate enough to be born in a peaceful, stable country is ignorant at best and extremely cruel at worst. Every woman has the right to be a mother if they so wish, refugee or not.

[Anonymous]

took 2 sec to find this:

In 2012 the Supreme Court of Honduras had a vicious ruling: emergency contraception was to be criminalized after years of immense political debates that began to intensify just months before the 2009 Honduran Constitutional Crisis. It’s important to understand that the logic here stems from abortion being largely and nearly universally illegal in Honduras and that Honduran legislators and the Supreme Court viewed emergency contraception as abortion inducing.
https://hondurasreport.org/tag/birth-control/

That's right: emergency contraception CRIMINAL

This ruling has survived and gone undefeated because of scientific ignorance perpetuated by government officials. This has prevented organizations like Doctors Without Borders from preventing pregnancies among rape victims and survivors of sexual assault as well as women who want to decide when they begin having children.

https://hondurasreport.org/tag/birth-control/

Question: why, in a world where greenhouse gas production is in the process of creating out of control climate change and its attendent effects, where life forms across the planet including humans find their bodies permeated with micro plastics, do people in cultures which produce the majority of environmental damage continue to have children, thereby increasing the potential suffering of their own children and grandchildren?

This is a bit rhetorical since I am a parent (one child but would have preferred another) but why would be ok to challenge the reproductive behavior of less-advantaged people and not the reproductive behavior of more-advantaged people?