The game and Alpha/Beta

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seriously, about 90% of the women I know met their husbands the old fashioned way: either in school or at work. I'd much rather have the opportunity to get to know a guy in that kind of a setting rather than to have some guy try to play mind games with me in order to get my attention. Huge ick factor.

Ah, so you're going to look down on people doing online dating?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the long term relationship problems matter much when it comes to "game." The goal is to have sex with women. We've learned from other threads that long term relationships are not conducive to frequent sex -- because, as one poster pointed out gleefully, women get bored of the same guy more easily than guys get bored.

But if you're not married or getting laid, you're a complete loser. Don't forget that.

[Anonymous]

Because the value of a man is determined by his relationships with women? That's a toxic idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the value of a man is determined by his relationships with women? That's a toxic idea.

Social validation. It's far more common among women then you want to believe.

[Anonymous]

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And? Doesn't invalidate him.

Sure it does, he tossed you aside like a used condom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the value of a man is determined by his relationships with women? That's a toxic idea.

Social validation. It's far more common among women then you want to believe.

There was a girl who worked in a museum I frequented who I really liked. young, great body, exuded sex appeal.

I asked her out a couple of times and she declined. I would go to this museum every week alone.

Later on I was dating three women casually and would bring them (on separate weekends) off and on to the museum with with me.

The musem worker girl was utterly jealous that I wouldn't make small talk and flirt with her anymore and instead she saw me enjoying myself with these other women.

After about 3 months of seeing me with with these other ladies, one day I went to the museum alone. The museum worker girl cornered me before closing and forced a kiss on me and we later had sex that night at her place.

Social proof is not a big thing for guys - we don't care if a woman has tons of guy friends or not. Women absolutely do care if men they are interested in also interest other women.

If it is a toxic idea that a value of a man is determined by his relationships to women, it is mostly women who drive that idea. After college, most guys won't care/tease/break balls of other guys who are in a dry spell or are striking out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Along the lines of the last PP, check out minutes 9-11 in this
https://youtu.be/Ip7kP_dd6LU

woah that is interesting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no patience for women that have no sympathy for guys in the approach department. Many women think it doesn't involve any great skill. But their own conversational abilities suck. They think to the contrary because guys act interested. But that's largely because guys don't care what they say--especially at first-- they're just thinking if they want to have sex with them. For most women I've encountered, their standard approach (when they take the initiative) is "Hi" or "How's it going?" And it works because a guy is happy the woman is taking the initiative and showing interest. But if a guy did something that lame, it would be quick, easy, and decisive rejection. Guys--especially introverted guys--look to books and other sources for help, because what women say will work, doesn't in fact work in the slightest.

Guy here, when I was single, "hi" and "how's it going" were my go-to opening lines and were often successful. But I was mostly approaching women who, seconds prior, had been making flirty eye contact. I think some guys are under the impression from movies that you're supposed to approach a woman who shows no interest in you and "woo" her. That's how it works some of the time but more commonly you are approaching a woman who has demonstrated some interest, either in previous conversations or eyes or body languge or you heard from a mutual friend etc. In those cases "hi" and a smile will usually result in a conversation and a future meet-up...

"Hi" or "How's it going?"

Denzel Washington - it works.
Clarence Thomas - doesn't work.

clarence thomas would clean up in dc. do you know how much power is an aphrodisiac to dc women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because the value of a man is determined by his relationships with women? That's a toxic idea.

Social validation. It's far more common among women then you want to believe.

There was a girl who worked in a museum I frequented who I really liked. young, great body, exuded sex appeal.

I asked her out a couple of times and she declined. I would go to this museum every week alone.

Later on I was dating three women casually and would bring them (on separate weekends) off and on to the museum with with me.

The musem worker girl was utterly jealous that I wouldn't make small talk and flirt with her anymore and instead she saw me enjoying myself with these other women.

After about 3 months of seeing me with with these other ladies, one day I went to the museum alone. The museum worker girl cornered me before closing and forced a kiss on me and we later had sex that night at her place.

Social proof is not a big thing for guys - we don't care if a woman has tons of guy friends or not. Women absolutely do care if men they are interested in also interest other women.

If it is a toxic idea that a value of a man is determined by his relationships to women, it is mostly women who drive that idea. After college, most guys won't care/tease/break balls of other guys who are in a dry spell or are striking out

And rarely do women use "you're not getting laid" as a debate tactic. Whereas here ... a man expresses a POV about love/romance a woman doesn't like, it automagically means he isn't getting laid. Just look at here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Game works precisely because it generates emotions in the target woman, just like it's generating among many women posters here. To get a woman you have to get their emotions inflamed. The very same women who claim to despise game are those most likely to be susceptible to it, because they are very easy to emotionally manipulate. A totally indifferent woman would be much harder to game because she doesn't become emotionally involved in the situation.

This is just the latest version of what has always worked and is common throughout literature.

Women can't resist strong dominating men, even though they claim to "hate" their domination, they become sexually aroused by it.

That's the whole point of game. It's to get beyond the intellectualized bullshit such as spouted on threads like this and get to the emotions of the woman. That's what "negging" really is all about. If she laughs fine, if she gets angry fine too. Her emotions are in play and once she becomes emotionally engaged she makes herself vulnerable to "game."

A neg isn't a sign of domination. It's the equivalent of stomping your feet and crying for attention. I found a dominant guy who didn't pull shit like that. He's hot, and not a douche.

"The game" is stupid. All games are stupid. You guys should just grow up already. Seriously.

Yep. I remember when I met my ex, I was blown away by how upfront he was. Never had to play games cause he didnt need to. In fact, within like 5 minutes of meeting him, he jokingly told me was gay (but not in an offensive way).

It's funny, cause this dude was like the definition of "alpha" and I'm sure most of the guys that read that PUA bullshit would have been salivating over him. And he was the least domineering, most respectful, least "macho" guy I've ever met. He never had to put on an act.

The fact that you have to neg someone... dude, you've already lost.

pp he gamed you and you are too clueless to realize it
calling himself gay was a neg of you
as if you can't attract a real man
also showing you he doesnt give a shit what you think of him
he was doing the opposite of trying to impress you
that is classic alpha game
you lose

[Anonymous]

What exactly did she lose?! This is the problem with making games out of grown-up interactions.

[Anonymous]

Women only consider about 10% of men "hot". Somehow, most of the rest of those 90% manage to do ok.

Negging doesn't work. Cockiness does. If you act like you're the shit she will start to believe.

Also, if she's rude to you, spit in her eye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to just being cool?

society told them that instead of being cool, they need to be sensitive and "nice". Unfortunately, that makes women dry as the Mojave Desert.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to just being cool?

society told them that instead of being cool, they need to be sensitive and "nice". Unfortunately, that makes women dry as the Mojave Desert.

Keep telling yourself that, douche.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women only consider about 10% of men "hot". Somehow, most of the rest of those 90% manage to do ok.

Negging doesn't work. Cockiness does. If you act like you're the shit she will start to believe.

Also, if she's rude to you, spit in her eye.

Please do this to me so that I can slap you with an assault charge.