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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because the value of a man is determined by his relationships with women? That's a toxic idea. [/quote]

Social validation. It's far more common among women then you want to believe.[/quote]

There was a girl who worked in a museum I frequented who I really liked. young, great body, exuded sex appeal.

I asked her out a couple of times and she declined. I would go to this museum every week alone.

Later on I was dating three women casually and would bring them (on separate weekends) off and on to the museum with with me.

The musem worker girl was utterly jealous that I wouldn't make small talk and flirt with her anymore and instead she saw me enjoying myself with these other women.

After about 3 months of seeing me with with these other ladies, one day I went to the museum alone. The museum worker girl cornered me before closing and forced a kiss on me and we later had sex that night at her place.

Social proof is not a big thing for guys - we don't care if a woman has tons of guy friends or not. Women absolutely do care if men they are interested in also interest other women.

If it is a toxic idea that a value of a man is determined by his relationships to women, it is mostly women who drive that idea. After college, most guys won't care/tease/break balls of other guys who are in a dry spell or are striking out[/quote]

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