The game and Alpha/Beta

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Don't be a fucking douche, and you're more likely to find a decent woman who wants to sleep with you.

[Citation needed]

[Anonymous]

I have never read this book or any like it but I used to do fairly well with women before I got married and I don't know exactly what negging is but acting aloof / like you are doing the woman a favor by paying attention to her absolutely works, and the hotter she is the better it works.

Women will say they want to be pursued, but eagerness is often perceived as desperation. So you have to get the woman to *want* you to pursue her, but then come close to ignoring her and she's yours. If she thinks you have better options than her she wants you more.

Even self aware women who can see through the bullshit (usually) can be susceptible to this with the right guy. And I don't mean *right* in the sense one guy can get good enough at this to make any woman fall for him, I mean a given man for that given woman, if he goes the aloof route rather than the attention giving route, will be much more successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Don't be a fucking douche, and you're more likely to find a decent woman who wants to sleep with you.

If this were true no one in Dallas or Boston would ever get laid

[Anonymous]

Me alpha male. Me grunt when I meet a new woman. But me listen and take interest in what woman has to say. Woman then happy and I thrill her in bed. Guess me not misogynist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have never read this book or any like it but I used to do fairly well with women before I got married and I don't know exactly what negging is but acting aloof / like you are doing the woman a favor by paying attention to her absolutely works, and the hotter she is the better it works.

Women will say they want to be pursued, but eagerness is often perceived as desperation. So you have to get the woman to *want* you to pursue her, but then come close to ignoring her and she's yours. If she thinks you have better options than her she wants you more.

Even self aware women who can see through the bullshit (usually) can be susceptible to this with the right guy. And I don't mean *right* in the sense one guy can get good enough at this to make any woman fall for him, I mean a given man for that given woman, if he goes the aloof route rather than the attention giving route, will be much more successful.

New poster, guy here, yeah, this. I never read that stuff, seemed contrived to me and I didn't need the advice, but I knew one guy in particular who did, and as far as I could gather from him the whole point is to just not obsess about any one prospect and keep different irons in the fire, have fun, see what happens.

So if girl1 is making your life difficult, just go hang out with girl2 for a while and eventually girl1 comes around. Which is basically how most young attractive confident guys operate anyway when they are in the fooling around, not thinking about marriage phase of life. Not being a jerk, but just being confident that the sea is full of fish. It's really about having lots of options or, in the meantime, pretending like you do, which is a very successful strategy in all "meet markets" including job interviews, dating, etc.

The problem is that the most visible/vocal proponents seem to be douchebags with a lot of sexist baggage, plus they have made it way more complicated than it needs to be in an effort to sell books to lonely frustrated guys (and even workshops like tom cruise's character in magnolia! LOL). but the basic idea, to be or to appear to be someone with many desirable romantic options, is as old as time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Me alpha male. Me grunt when I meet a new woman. But me listen and take interest in what woman has to say. Woman then happy and I thrill her in bed. Guess me not misogynist.

Lol I'd go on a date with you! Funny. But you're probably a woman making fun of the douches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love "The Game."

My favorite part is calling guys out on a neg. The look of shock/horror/embarassment on their faces...

Every time I go out I pray someone will approach me and try to use game on me. I just love it

If they are any good at game, it shouldn't matter. A good neg is witty, playful, and ambiguous. It's teasing, not an insult, although some losers misunderstand the concept and implement it poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love "The Game."

My favorite part is calling guys out on a neg. The look of shock/horror/embarassment on their faces...

Every time I go out I pray someone will approach me and try to use game on me. I just love it

If they are any good at game, it shouldn't matter. A good neg is witty, playful, and ambiguous. It's teasing, not an insult, although some losers misunderstand the concept and implement it poorly.

Guys without good self awareness or social skills need a book to make them feel like they have an edge over women. The edge seekers do not know the difference between being witty or being an asshole. For the low, low price of $89.95, I can explain the moves that will make every woman immediately undress when she sees you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love "The Game."

My favorite part is calling guys out on a neg. The look of shock/horror/embarassment on their faces...

Every time I go out I pray someone will approach me and try to use game on me. I just love it

If they are any good at game, it shouldn't matter. A good neg is witty, playful, and ambiguous. It's teasing, not an insult, although some losers misunderstand the concept and implement it poorly.

Guys without good self awareness or social skills need a book to make them feel like they have an edge over women. The edge seekers do not know the difference between being witty or being an asshole. For the low, low price of $89.95, I can explain the moves that will make every woman immediately undress when she sees you.

LOL seriously.

And honestly, the whole concept of game just proves how obsessed men are with women.

You wouldnt catch me spending a single cent on a book about how to talk to men- please.

[Anonymous]

To pp: you've never, ever read cosmo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To pp: you've never, ever read cosmo?

When I was like 13? Sure.

As a grown adult? No.

Also, Cosmo has hardly any "how to talk to guys" articles- way more sex tips and just stories that interest women, usually about women.

[Anonymous]

I have no patience for women that have no sympathy for guys in the approach department. Many women think it doesn't involve any great skill. But their own conversational abilities suck. They think to the contrary because guys act interested. But that's largely because guys don't care what they say--especially at first-- they're just thinking if they want to have sex with them. For most women I've encountered, their standard approach (when they take the initiative) is "Hi" or "How's it going?" And it works because a guy is happy the woman is taking the initiative and showing interest. But if a guy did something that lame, it would be quick, easy, and decisive rejection. Guys--especially introverted guys--look to books and other sources for help, because what women say will work, doesn't in fact work in the slightest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have no patience for women that have no sympathy for guys in the approach department. Many women think it doesn't involve any great skill. But their own conversational abilities suck. They think to the contrary because guys act interested. But that's largely because guys don't care what they say--especially at first-- they're just thinking if they want to have sex with them. For most women I've encountered, their standard approach (when they take the initiative) is "Hi" or "How's it going?" And it works because a guy is happy the woman is taking the initiative and showing interest. But if a guy did something that lame, it would be quick, easy, and decisive rejection. Guys--especially introverted guys--look to books and other sources for help, because what women say will work, doesn't in fact work in the slightest.

As if these women would want to talk to you. Keep dreaming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To pp: you've never, ever read cosmo?

When I was like 13? Sure.

As a grown adult? No.

Also, Cosmo has hardly any "how to talk to guys" articles- way more sex tips and just stories that interest women, usually about women.

Every Cosmo can be abbreviated to this:
How to lose weight/get fit
Sex tips
How to trick a man into committing
At least 100 ads for beauty and fashion items

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To pp: you've never, ever read cosmo?

When I was like 13? Sure.

As a grown adult? No.

Also, Cosmo has hardly any "how to talk to guys" articles- way more sex tips and just stories that interest women, usually about women.

Every Cosmo can be abbreviated to this:
How to lose weight/get fit
Sex tips
How to trick a man into committing
At least 100 ads for beauty and fashion items

Um, not really.

How many times have you read Cosmo?