The game and Alpha/Beta

[Anonymous]

Shortly after I got divorced, I read the Game and some blogs that preach it. I've come to the conclusion that there is some truth about male/female dynamics there but most of the guys that seem to practice it are misogynistic misanthropes. I've discussed the book with several intelligent women that say that sort of thing only works on dumb girls but there are several times I've subtly implemented some of the "game" precepts in my interaction with them, and they positively respond to that (presumably because they don't realize that I'm "gaming" them -- they just think it's playful). I'm curious what people here think about it.

[Anonymous]

You will not get any constructive feedback here but before this turns into a shit show, I agree with many of the concepts without going stupid extreme with any of them. It works and when followed will keep sex in your marriage. The red pill is the pill to take. I'm a woman and realistic and don't cling to ideals.

[Anonymous]

If you want to have an actual discussion about it, you might want to discuss what you actually found useful from the book.

[Anonymous]

It works because it forces guys to act confident. But some take the negging/asshole behavior too far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shortly after I got divorced, I read the Game and some blogs that preach it. I've come to the conclusion that there is some truth about male/female dynamics there but most of the guys that seem to practice it are misogynistic misanthropes. I've discussed the book with several intelligent women that say that sort of thing only works on dumb girls but there are several times I've subtly implemented some of the "game" precepts in my interaction with them, and they positively respond to that (presumably because they don't realize that I'm "gaming" them -- they just think it's playful). I'm curious what people here think about it.

It's not that it works on "dumb" women, it works on emotionally damaged women. Just as the actors are emotionally damaged themselves. Healthy people don't do this.

[Anonymous]

OP here, answering PP's question: What I found partic serve ularly useful in the book is the notion that answering "logical questions" in the early stage of a relationship hurts the development of sexual attraction, because it turns dates into an interview that doesn't turn women on. The premise of that is that, while women want and need comfort and trust in a relationship, that is valuable only after attraction has been established, so if you get too comfortable (and somewhat boring) before that has been established, then you've screwed up (and won't screw).

[Anonymous]

I also find valuable the notion of taking "shit tests" in stride. In my former marriage, I used to do whatever I could to appease my ex-wife, and it didn't do anything to solve the discord, or had negative effects. Now I'm more likely to call a spade a spade. I don't know if it makes me more endearing, but I certainly don't feel anymore like I'm sacrificing a piece of my soul or my integrity.

[Anonymous]

When I read it (back when I was single) I found I was doing a lot of the techniques there anyway, but I did learn a lot. I found it works on all types of women. Women like confidence and humor, so it's just a matter of having the right balance and not going overboard.

Yes, some loser guys are big followers of this, and it's not going to suddenly make them into something great... but for normal guys I think it can be a good way to improve themselves.

[Anonymous]

I love "The Game."

My favorite part is calling guys out on a neg. The look of shock/horror/embarassment on their faces...

Every time I go out I pray someone will approach me and try to use game on me. I just love it

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's necessarily that misogynists use game -- so much as men become misogynists when that crap works.

Be a pleasant straight forward guy who isn't playing any games and women ignore you. Be a game playing dick, and women like you better. That's a recipe for contempt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love "The Game."

My favorite part is calling guys out on a neg. The look of shock/horror/embarassment on their faces...

Every time I go out I pray someone will approach me and try to use game on me. I just love it

Even there, negative attention is better than no attention at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love "The Game."

My favorite part is calling guys out on a neg. The look of shock/horror/embarassment on their faces...

Every time I go out I pray someone will approach me and try to use game on me. I just love it

Even there, negative attention is better than no attention at all.

More like the attention automatically shifts to them and the spotlight is put on their gross dating tactics and social failings. Fun.

[Anonymous]

Confidence is attractive, even if part of it is just an act. Pick up artist games are crap. Negging is a terrible practice that attempts to exploit the worst fears of women with emotional issues.

Don't be a fucking douche, and you're more likely to find a decent woman who wants to sleep with you. This is not exactly groundbreaking info.

[Anonymous]

Cool story bro.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who would have to read a book just to approach women is a loser with an inferiority complex. No wonder they hate women so much