How do you get an affair/relationship started with another married person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1. I'm in a situation like this. She all but falls into my arms -- on a regular basis -- but then won't let herself be in a situation where anything physical can happen. It's not teasing; I'm old enough (sadly) to know when a woman is genuinely into me. I suspect I serve as a nice spur to her fantasies. Great.

I also think this is what a lot of women actually mean when they say they engaged in an "emotional affair." It's transgressive and satisfying for the woman, but she can feel like she didn't cross the line to ho or homewrecker or whatever unfortunate images she harbors of women who cheat. It's (eventually) just frustrating as hell for the dude.

Oh come on, Slugger, I gave you good advice. Now go get her. She's what you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:that or she really doesnt want to have sex and is more excited about not doing the deed and keeping everything in her imagination..................

This is bullshit. Men are so fucking stupid about women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will seem like one of those things that is ... just right.

I was in, well, still am in, a "just right" situation but believe it or not, we have no place to "do it," so we haven't done it. Neither of us wants to use our own house and paying for a motel just seems too much. Ah well, nice to dream about but I guess we'll never consummate it

Why so forlorn? Maybe your "just right" is ready to consummate it after all. Logistics are definitely hard, but I wouldn't just throw the towel in and give up, if you indeed still interested.

I AM still interested. He's a fantastic guy, such sexy eyes and so easy to talk to...it's just a very complicated situation.

Wait, so you have actually explicitly discussed consummation and it hasn't happened because together you can't think of a place? Have you at least made out in a car or in the woods or something?

There really is a business opportunity here for a discrete hourly rentals of clean bedrooms

Just pay for a damn motel! How cheap are you? You need to think back to your teenage years (since that's what you are acting like).

If you want a ONS, sure. But if you want regular sex, do the math. Even a cheap hotel is about a hundred bucks around here. It adds up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:that or she really doesnt want to have sex and is more excited about not doing the deed and keeping everything in her imagination..................

This is bullshit. Men are so fucking stupid about women.

This poster is obviously also PP. And as a dude, I can't fault her on the validity of the quoted language.

[Anonymous]

By PP I mean 17:10.

[Anonymous]

don't talk about her DH too long, just enough so that she denigrates him in some way. That is her telling you she wants to be seduced. From there on, shift to her fantasies & desires. At this point, you are the greener grass. Tell her you love champagne and ask if she'd like some. Once she has the first sip, she will do whatever you tell her to do.
Be very kind & understanding to her but make her leave soon. You don't want the first encounter to drag on.
She will fantasize about you until the 2nd. This is where it will turn to crazy, kinky & wild sex. She knows it and this is what she wants.
You can leave it like that & she can return to being a wife & mom. She'll be the one with that grin watching soccer on Saturday...and limping. cheers have a good weekend

[Anonymous]

PP, you can have me any time. You are so awesome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:don't talk about her DH too long, just enough so that she denigrates him in some way. That is her telling you she wants to be seduced. From there on, shift to her fantasies & desires. At this point, you are the greener grass. Tell her you love champagne and ask if she'd like some. Once she has the first sip, she will do whatever you tell her to do.
Be very kind & understanding to her but make her leave soon. You don't want the first encounter to drag on.
She will fantasize about you until the 2nd. This is where it will turn to crazy, kinky & wild sex. She knows it and this is what she wants.
You can leave it like that & she can return to being a wife & mom. She'll be the one with that grin watching soccer on Saturday...and limping. cheers have a good weekend

This may be what the manual says, but how do you get her from the soccer field to that first glass of champagne, Rico Suave? Because you've got to do that before you can have her grinning and sore at the next game.

[Anonymous]

Lunch. Ask her to lunch, not too fancy a place. Even better if there is a business, school or social pretext.

[Anonymous]

This thread is amazing. I know we're all supposed to be shocked and horrified but honestly, I have more respect for the people on this thread who cheat, whether married or affair partner, than the boring whining martyrs stuck in sexless marriages on the other threads. Or the women whose husbands don't lift a finger around the house or with the kids.

Life is too short. Enjoy it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lunch. Ask her to lunch, not too fancy a place. Even better if there is a business, school or social pretext.

Sorry, Rico, but who drinks champagne at lunch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is amazing. I know we're all supposed to be shocked and horrified but honestly, I have more respect for the people on this thread who cheat, whether married or affair partner, than the boring whining martyrs stuck in sexless marriages on the other threads. Or the women whose husbands don't lift a finger around the house or with the kids.

Life is too short. Enjoy it!

Yeah I'm sure my ex-husband is really enjoying his life now that he's a single dad, broke from the divorce and paying child support and for his own apartment, missing out on half his kid's lives and doesn't even have his affair girlfriend since they (shocker!) fizzled out shortly after he moved out on his family. His life seems really enjoyable!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is amazing. I know we're all supposed to be shocked and horrified but honestly, I have more respect for the people on this thread who cheat, whether married or affair partner, than the boring whining martyrs stuck in sexless marriages on the other threads. Or the women whose husbands don't lift a finger around the house or with the kids.

Life is too short. Enjoy it!

Yeah I'm sure my ex-husband is really enjoying his life now that he's a single dad, broke from the divorce and paying child support and for his own apartment, missing out on half his kid's lives and doesn't even have his affair girlfriend since they (shocker!) fizzled out shortly after he moved out on his family. His life seems really enjoyable!

Bitter much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1. I'm in a situation like this. She all but falls into my arms -- on a regular basis -- but then won't let herself be in a situation where anything physical can happen. It's not teasing; I'm old enough (sadly) to know when a woman is genuinely into me. I suspect I serve as a nice spur to her fantasies. Great.

I also think this is what a lot of women actually mean when they say they engaged in an "emotional affair." It's transgressive and satisfying for the woman, but she can feel like she didn't cross the line to ho or homewrecker or whatever unfortunate images she harbors of women who cheat. It's (eventually) just frustrating as hell for the dude.

If you haven't closed the deal by now there is a chance that you are too late to ever do so. If you woo her without succeeding then you risk damaging your ability to seduce other women in the workplace by getting a reputation as a Dirty Old or Young Manwhore, who is also, even worse, weak. The best wingman is actually a woman who does not know she is your wingman. This is why I suggested asking how your adored one met her husband. It's a win-win if done correctly. After you find out whether she can be seduced by her expression you should follow up with an indirect compliment. (DO NOT SAY - Your husband is sure a lucky man. DO SAY - How interesting that you met at law school. It must be great meeting someone who works in your field.) You have to make subtly compliment her taste in that quintessential life decision - spousal selection. If you discover that she loves her husband so much she cannot be seduced you should continue the conversation and ask more about the spouse. In this way you influence this attractive woman's image of you. She will be flattered by your interest in her family and think you respect her as a person and friend. She will think you are a genuinely nice guy and will pass that information on to other female colleagues, which will help you in subsequent seduction attempts.

The object of your lust is doubtless a high 7 or 8. The problem for an 8 is that her competition is not other 8s; in her prime she was compared to the 10. Young men waste time going for the rare 10 they encounter. Remember how every guy in the dorm did his utmost to bed that exquisite 10 who never looked at any of them because she had an older wealthy lover? Older men realize that they are not likely to get a 10 and that a high 7/8 can yield greater pleasure. No high-value woman wants anyone else's sloppy seconds. To maximize your chances of seducing her it is critical that you actively establish a reputation within your organization as a Not Dirty Old or Young Manwhore. Your task is to convince the 8 that you are a decent, moral, upstanding person who would never want to make anyone cheat. You must convince her that everyone else has been wrong; you know that she, as she has always suspected, is truly a 10, not an 8. The truth of this conviction -- her inhuman desirability -- has forced you to make a move or go mad with desire.

I believe you have missed your moment with this particular woman but if you are willing to go back to the drawing board, to satisfy her psychically without seeming desperate, perhaps you can regain the momentum. If I were you I would withdraw. She has grown comfortable basking in your attention. I would be courteous and professional the next time I encountered her, friendly in the way you are with other colleagues. I wouldn't even allude to what has passed between you. She will be confused at first, then angry, and then insecure. She won't want to lose her water cooler admirer. Capitalize on that secret fear: What if she is just an 8 and you have realized that and moved on? Show that she no longer moves you. Go directly into the "we're just friends" stage without explanation or rancor. The resulting sleepless nights for her = panties for you.

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Anonymous wrote:+1. I'm in a situation like this. She all but falls into my arms -- on a regular basis -- but then won't let herself be in a situation where anything physical can happen. It's not teasing; I'm old enough (sadly) to know when a woman is genuinely into me. I suspect I serve as a nice spur to her fantasies. Great.

I also think this is what a lot of women actually mean when they say they engaged in an "emotional affair." It's transgressive and satisfying for the woman, but she can feel like she didn't cross the line to ho or homewrecker or whatever unfortunate images she harbors of women who cheat. It's (eventually) just frustrating as hell for the dude.

If you haven't closed the deal by now there is a chance that you are too late to ever do so. If you woo her without succeeding then you risk damaging your ability to seduce other women in the workplace by getting a reputation as a Dirty Old or Young Manwhore, who is also, even worse, weak. The best wingman is actually a woman who does not know she is your wingman. This is why I suggested asking how your adored one met her husband. It's a win-win if done correctly. After you find out whether she can be seduced by her expression you should follow up with an indirect compliment. (DO NOT SAY - Your husband is sure a lucky man. DO SAY - How interesting that you met at law school. It must be great meeting someone who works in your field.) You have to make subtly compliment her taste in that quintessential life decision - spousal selection. If you discover that she loves her husband so much she cannot be seduced you should continue the conversation and ask more about the spouse. In this way you influence this attractive woman's image of you. She will be flattered by your interest in her family and think you respect her as a person and friend. She will think you are a genuinely nice guy and will pass that information on to other female colleagues, which will help you in subsequent seduction attempts.

The object of your lust is doubtless a high 7 or 8. The problem for an 8 is that her competition is not other 8s; in her prime she was compared to the 10. Young men waste time going for the rare 10 they encounter. Remember how every guy in the dorm did his utmost to bed that exquisite 10 who never looked at any of them because she had an older wealthy lover? Older men realize that they are not likely to get a 10 and that a high 7/8 can yield greater pleasure. No high-value woman wants anyone else's sloppy seconds. To maximize your chances of seducing her it is critical that you actively establish a reputation within your organization as a Not Dirty Old or Young Manwhore. Your task is to convince the 8 that you are a decent, moral, upstanding person who would never want to make anyone cheat. You must convince her that everyone else has been wrong; you know that she, as she has always suspected, is truly a 10, not an 8. The truth of this conviction -- her inhuman desirability -- has forced you to make a move or go mad with desire.

I believe you have missed your moment with this particular woman but if you are willing to go back to the drawing board, to satisfy her psychically without seeming desperate, perhaps you can regain the momentum. If I were you I would withdraw. She has grown comfortable basking in your attention. I would be courteous and professional the next time I encountered her, friendly in the way you are with other colleagues. I wouldn't even allude to what has passed between you. She will be confused at first, then angry, and then insecure. She won't want to lose her water cooler admirer. Capitalize on that secret fear: What if she is just an 8 and you have realized that and moved on? Show that she no longer moves you. Go directly into the "we're just friends" stage without explanation or rancor. The resulting sleepless nights for her = panties for you.

What if he is a Dirty Old Man Whore though? What is your advice in that case?

Also, who are you? You fascinate me!