Not sure why you are taking my response to the OP so personally. It seems to make you very angry to hear about other people’s experiences. And says a lot about you. |
I'm the pp you're trying to neg, and no, having a full social calendar that doesn't include a romantic partnership isn't "extreme individualism" at all. I'm probably way more active in my community than you. I just don't feel a need to have a romantic attachment. Sorry you find that so threatening that you have to try to insult me (didn't work, but you tried it). I have family, friends, and community. It's plenty. Detox from the disneyesque nonlogic of needing a prince/princess to fulfill you and you'll see that it's not a necessary component of a happy life for everyone. If you need that for you, cool. But please grow into a level of maturity that understands that others can do things differently and be just as happy. |
I'm not hurt, honey. I have plenty of men in my life who care about me, so your "truth" rings hollow af. But go off on a stranger on the anon board if it makes you feel powerful or smart or... whatever it is you're getting from this. |
I have, actually. The highs were amazing, but what goes up must come down. Personally, I don't find the comedown worth it. I have friendships and "otherships" (professional associations, volunteering, etc.) that provide a level of connection that maybe doesn't peak as high as a romance, but doesn't bottom out nearly as badly either. The stability is worth it to me. I don't love being in love. It makes me feel stupid and out of control. I don't like getting drunk or high for the same reason. Not for me. Not gonna neg you if you do; I hope you have a happy love (or many) in a way that you find fulfilling. |
| Some people just attract others who are dangerous. Maybe they arent pretty or dont have the best character themselves, but if you know this about yourself its better to be single than with someone who has strong odds od cheating and giving you a disease or taking your money or putting you through some emotional or physical abuse or even death. The truth is the pool of men who make safe husbands is much smaller than the pool of women who make safe wives. Marriage takes communication and safety and some men just cant do these things well. |
Men inherently are more aggressive, driven, arrogant. They are testosterone driven: can you imagine as a woman thinking every day who would be your next lay and looking at other gender through sexual prey glasses mostly ? A lot of high achieving men (the most attractive to women) became of who they are due to that aggression and testosterone. So yes, it’s harder to be a woman and navigate through all this. |
Listen now brain no one is jealous or angry .you are not single so your.marriage isn't relevant to this thread. |
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I was married for 24 years. I'm happily divorced. I'm one and done.
You can have a great life not being married. And the smug married women who are not being nice, life can change on a dime. Stop being so judgmental. |
I'm the PP. I appreciate your thoughtful response. I think I'm lucky because I've never had the lows after being in love. Some relationships didn't work out romantically for whatever reason but I'm still friends with all but one ex. I also having loving relationships with people outside of my husband (not sexual, but loving), and I love the feeling of loving people and being loved. I do agree with you that someone's presence has to be better than my solitude - I like being alone and I don't spend time on people who don't fill my cup, for lack of a better way to say it. As much as I love my friends, I've always found something special in a romantic love that is different from my other relationships but I appreciate that you feel different and I'm glad you've built a life that you find fulfilling. |
I don't think any married women have been unkind or smug? |
I hear you. Many of our friends in their 50s and 60s are divorcing now. The people who are spiraling while dating are those who want to find someone. Why? I understand not wanting to be alone and I am all for having a good social circle, for finding hobbies and causes, for traveling, for downsizing etc, but inherently why would you tie yourself down? The happiest and healthiest women are the never married gals. And as we are aging ...we all are not depending on our husbands or kids for care for aging. Infact, just the opposite. |
She might not want a 24 hour- 7 day a week job. I don’t. |
You’re aware that everyone is single before becoming married, engaged, or in a relationship, right? Please refer us to the part OPs post where she requested feedback from current singles only. Thanks dear. |
NP here. I am late 40s. Men have only brought misery to my life. Literally the single biggest mistake I ever made was getting married. Most of my friends have similar bad experiences with men. I think you got lucky...I think it is very rare to be surrounded by "great men"--more like giant toddlers who want a uterus, a wallet, a cook, and a maid all in one. |
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OP, I have several friends who never married or had kids and they are amazing. I love my life, which includes loving and being loved by a man and some kids, but if I had to pick a different life, I'd pick the life of my friend who's a master sommelier and has a gorgeous waterfront condo with a whole wall of windows. Or wait, maybe the friend with the incredible huge garden. Or maybe I'd want to be my friend who alternates months between NY and some foreign city. She lives in seven different cities a year! NY - Rio - NY - London - NY - Bangkok, and so on.
I don't have any married-with-kids friends who have that level of freedom and creativity to be themselves. The ability to drop everything, or to put their whole selves into something that interests them. And that's ok! We had different paths. I know my never married/ no kids friends sometimes wish things had gone differently. But they are living their lives and making it look good. There are so many ways to be a whole person. Don't let any of these ax-grinders tell you what's right for you. |