Job insists we share pronouns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, you work in a preschool? So you’re teaching kids a lot of simple vocabulary? Words like he/her/his/him/they/them?

The problem is, the pronoun pushing people don't want proper grammar to be taught.

A single person cannot be a "they".

Perhaps the person can be an "it" which does not have a gender, but "it" is for inanimate objects.

"She/her" are female pronouns, exclusively for actual real women and girls, not men or boys, plus female animals, female plant parts, and ships for some reason.

"He/him" are male pronouns, exclusively for actual real men and boys, not women and girls, plus male animals and male plant parts.

"Zi/Zah/etc" are not real words and certainly not pronouns. They are made up slang at best or more likely, gibberish.

Many words, not just in English but many languages, and a great deal of grammar rules in specific languages, are gender specific, male or female.


The pronoun pushers, especially at the school level, are pushing illiteracy, incorrect vocabulary and bad grammar.

[Anonymous]

I think it's important for the parents of the kids in your class to know that you're uncomfortable sharing your pronouns. I would want to know this and I think it's better if you put something on the board that indicates that that is your position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, you work in a preschool? So you’re teaching kids a lot of simple vocabulary? Words like he/her/his/him/they/them?

The problem is, the pronoun pushing people don't want proper grammar to be taught.

A single person cannot be a "they".

Perhaps the person can be an "it" which does not have a gender, but "it" is for inanimate objects.

"She/her" are female pronouns, exclusively for actual real women and girls, not men or boys, plus female animals, female plant parts, and ships for some reason.

"He/him" are male pronouns, exclusively for actual real men and boys, not women and girls, plus male animals and male plant parts.

"Zi/Zah/etc" are not real words and certainly not pronouns. They are made up slang at best or more likely, gibberish.

Many words, not just in English but many languages, and a great deal of grammar rules in specific languages, are gender specific, male or female.


The pronoun pushers, especially at the school level, are pushing illiteracy, incorrect vocabulary and bad grammar.

They is used to refer to single people all of the time and I’d imagine you use it all the time without realizing it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's important for the parents of the kids in your class to know that you're uncomfortable sharing your pronouns. I would want to know this and I think it's better if you put something on the board that indicates that that is your position.

To me this would read as the person is opposed to all gender and is probably non-binary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people at my job have names that don’t immediately identify them as a specific gender. So knowing the pronoun lets me know the gender.

Some of you are way way too worried about trans people.

Why do you need to know someone's gender, especially if you're just interacting with them over email etc? I have an ethnic name where the gender isn't obvious. No one in my workplace addresses anyone as Ms/Mr. It doesn't matter if you know my gender ot not. Just like you may not know my age, hair color, marital status, hobbies or anything else.

I prefer the ambiguity personally. Lots of studies about how people interact with (perceived) men vs women differently even over email.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's important for the parents of the kids in your class to know that you're uncomfortable sharing your pronouns. I would want to know this and I think it's better if you put something on the board that indicates that that is your position.

Agree. If I saw this I’d request you as my kid’s teacher.

[Anonymous]

Nope. Work doesn't get to force me to announce my sexuality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people at my job have names that don’t immediately identify them as a specific gender. So knowing the pronoun lets me know the gender.

Some of you are way way too worried about trans people.

Why do you need to know someone's gender, especially if you're just interacting with them over email etc? I have an ethnic name where the gender isn't obvious. No one in my workplace addresses anyone as Ms/Mr. It doesn't matter if you know my gender ot not. Just like you may not know my age, hair color, marital status, hobbies or anything else.

I prefer the ambiguity personally. Lots of studies about how people interact with (perceived) men vs women differently even over email.

That’s fine and I regularly just use people’s full names when I don’t know the gender. But even over email you reference pronouns. “Pat is making the slides and said she’d be done later today.” But if I don’t know then I use they in the singular sense. “Pat is making slides and said they’d be done later today.”

Honestly don’t care, just wanting to do what my colleagues prefer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Work doesn't get to force me to announce my sexuality.

Oh man are you dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's important for the parents of the kids in your class to know that you're uncomfortable sharing your pronouns. I would want to know this and I think it's better if you put something on the board that indicates that that is your position.

What do you think it means? What position is that teacher taking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Work doesn't get to force me to announce my sexuality.

This

[Anonymous]

This is how Democrats lose - I swear, this crazy hysteria over pronouns is a MAGA psyops distraction. It's the smallest percentage of people that are trans but you'd think we all were with this garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how Democrats lose - I swear, this crazy hysteria over pronouns is a MAGA psyops distraction. It's the smallest percentage of people that are trans but you'd think we all were with this garbage.

Yeah people here are saying "this bothers me and I don't want to do it." Others are saying "suck it up." And then you see how effective that was when the former group votes.

There is actually a fair amount of consensus. Very few people are looking to misgender and offend if someone is sharing their pronouns. But not everyone wants to participate of in terms of highlighting their own. And that should be okay too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's important for the parents of the kids in your class to know that you're uncomfortable sharing your pronouns. I would want to know this and I think it's better if you put something on the board that indicates that that is your position.

Well then pp… I think it’s important for the parents and teachers to also know that you’re apparently the kind of parent who will attack and go nuclear on someone trying to do their job. I would want to know this and it’s better if you put in your email signature that you’re that parent who will kick up a bunch of dust any time someone is different from your narrow view of how people should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how Democrats lose - I swear, this crazy hysteria over pronouns is a MAGA psyops distraction. It's the smallest percentage of people that are trans but you'd think we all were with this garbage.

This!! I swear this is our tea party moment. The democrats have lost their minds (since Covid). Newsflash - you are not doing squat to help trans people by forcing preK teachers to disclose pronouns. Please put your energy elsewhere. Pick up litter on your street and you will be doing better with your time.