When people refer to top 20 and top 25 schools what are they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something like a University of California-Irvine or UC-Merced or University of Georgia are the new top 25's.

The UVA, WashU, Georgetowns of the world are in decline.

Troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know the obvious ones-- Ivies, Stanford, MIT. But what are the other schools typically? What schools are top 25 but not top 20?

Why do you care how random strangers, who likely know very little, rate schools? Do you seek approval on other things like your neighborhood and career as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Average US News rank 1996-2025. (The USNWR list was greatly expanded in 1996.)

1.2 Princeton University
1.8 Harvard University
3.0 Yale University
4.7 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
4.8 Stanford University
6.8 University of Pennsylvania
7.5 California Institute of Technology
7.5 Duke University
7.8 Columbia University
8.6 University of Chicago
10.6 Dartmouth College
11.1 Northwestern University
12.0 Johns Hopkins University
13.7 Brown University
13.9 Cornell University
15.2 Washington University in St. Louis
16.3 Rice University
17.6 Vanderbilt University
18.2 University of Notre Dame
19.3 Emory University
21.0 University of California-Berkeley
22.2 Georgetown University
23.3 Carnegie Mellon University
23.5 University of Virginia
23.5 University of California-Los Angeles
25.4 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
28.0 University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
28.3 Tufts University
28.6 Wake Forest University
28.9 University of Southern California
32.6 New York University
34.2 University of Rochester
34.5 College of William and Mary
35.3 Brandeis University
35.4 University of California-San Diego
35.5 Boston College
37.3 Georgia Institute of Technology
38.7 University of Wisconsin-Madison
39.2 Case Western Reserve University
40.0 Lehigh University
40.5 University of California-Davis
40.8 University of California-Irvine
42.1 University of Illinois-Urbana-Champaign
45.7 Tulane University

If a college is missing, it wasn't included in the rankings some of 1996-2025.

Wow. Did you calculate by hand?

With the advent of stem, past 10-15 years is more relevant than pre dotcom era days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of T25 as all the ivies
Duke Chicago Northwestern Vandy Rice etc
UCLA UMich Cal
Emory and UVA Georgetown

I think of USC and NYU UNC and UT Austin as top 30, don’t care what the current rankings say.

I don’t think UCSB or any other UC is T30 - at all. Again don’t care what the current rankings say. UF and UGA are probably ranked rn but I don’t think of them that way. Sorry not sorry

Only Virginians insist UVA is more
prestigious than USC or NYU

I’m from NY. Trust me UVA is considered more prestigious than USC and NYU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:obviousky US News & World report which has been the gold standard since 1984. Ask any college counselor

The world has changed. There is abundant information available these days, unlike in the past when people could only rely on sources like US News.
There is no such thing as a gold standard anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of T25 as all the ivies
Duke Chicago Northwestern Vandy Rice etc
UCLA UMich Cal
Emory and UVA Georgetown

I think of USC and NYU UNC and UT Austin as top 30, don’t care what the current rankings say.

I don’t think UCSB or any other UC is T30 - at all. Again don’t care what the current rankings say. UF and UGA are probably ranked rn but I don’t think of them that way. Sorry not sorry

Only Virginians insist UVA is more
prestigious than USC or NYU

I’m from NY. Trust me UVA is considered more prestigious than USC and NYU.

This. IYKYK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:obviousky US News & World report which has been the gold standard since 1984. Ask any college counselor

The world has changed. There is abundant information available these days, unlike in the past when people could only rely on sources like US News.
There is no such thing as a gold standard anymore.

Yes there is. It's USNews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of T25 as all the ivies
Duke Chicago Northwestern Vandy Rice etc
UCLA UMich Cal
Emory and UVA Georgetown

I think of USC and NYU UNC and UT Austin as top 30, don’t care what the current rankings say.

I don’t think UCSB or any other UC is T30 - at all. Again don’t care what the current rankings say. UF and UGA are probably ranked rn but I don’t think of them that way. Sorry not sorry

Only Virginians insist UVA is more
prestigious than USC or NYU

I’m from NY. Trust me UVA is considered more prestigious than USC and NYU.

+1 from NC. UVA is considered much more prestigious. 100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of T25 as all the ivies
Duke Chicago Northwestern Vandy Rice etc
UCLA UMich Cal
Emory and UVA Georgetown

I think of USC and NYU UNC and UT Austin as top 30, don’t care what the current rankings say.

I don’t think UCSB or any other UC is T30 - at all. Again don’t care what the current rankings say. UF and UGA are probably ranked rn but I don’t think of them that way. Sorry not sorry

Only Virginians insist UVA is more
prestigious than USC or NYU

I’m from NY. Trust me UVA is considered more prestigious than USC and NYU.

I’m from NY, better than NYU, uSC not quite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of T25 as all the ivies
Duke Chicago Northwestern Vandy Rice etc
UCLA UMich Cal
Emory and UVA Georgetown

I think of USC and NYU UNC and UT Austin as top 30, don’t care what the current rankings say.

I don’t think UCSB or any other UC is T30 - at all. Again don’t care what the current rankings say. UF and UGA are probably ranked rn but I don’t think of them that way. Sorry not sorry

Only Virginians insist UVA is more
prestigious than USC or NYU

I’m from NY. Trust me UVA is considered more prestigious than USC and NYU.

+1. Grew up in the Midwest and same story.

[Anonymous]

I’m from NYC and NYU is prestigious enough

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of T25 as all the ivies
Duke Chicago Northwestern Vandy Rice etc
UCLA UMich Cal
Emory and UVA Georgetown

I think of USC and NYU UNC and UT Austin as top 30, don’t care what the current rankings say.

I don’t think UCSB or any other UC is T30 - at all. Again don’t care what the current rankings say. UF and UGA are probably ranked rn but I don’t think of them that way. Sorry not sorry

Only Virginians insist UVA is more
prestigious than USC or NYU

I’m from NY. Trust me UVA is considered more prestigious than USC and NYU.

This. IYKYK

u


LOL. No.

[Anonymous]

Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Nationally most people would think of USC because of football.