When people refer to top 20 and top 25 schools what are they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are the 30 universities that make up the top 20

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Texas
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
USC
NYU
Georgia Tech

Some people also include LACs and service academies. Those would include

West Point
Annapolis
Williams
Pomona
Amherst
Swarthmore
Harvey Mudd
Bowdoin
Claremont McKenna
Air Force

Collectively, these are the 40 colleges that constitute the top 20

Nice try the top 30 are
MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Texas? Georgia tech? Absolutely not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the 30 universities that make up the top 20

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Texas
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
USC
NYU
Georgia Tech

Some people also include LACs and service academies. Those would include

West Point
Annapolis
Williams
Pomona
Amherst
Swarthmore
Harvey Mudd
Bowdoin
Claremont McKenna
Air Force

Collectively, these are the 40 colleges that constitute the top 20

Nice try the top 30 are
MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Texas? Georgia tech? Absolutely not.

agree

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

Not sure if you left off Emory on purpose or by accident but UVA was ranked 26 2-3 years ago. Emory has always been T25, usually T20. Also more students choose Emory over UVa.

Right! uva and the other publics increased because of the methodology changes. Uva was not T25 before, Emory has always been.

Actually UVA has always been T25 for all universities and T2, T3 and T4 for best public in the USA for the last decade

No it was not, it was 26 in 2020, and 21.

losers, go get a life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

Not sure if you left off Emory on purpose or by accident but UVA was ranked 26 2-3 years ago. Emory has always been T25, usually T20. Also more students choose Emory over UVa.

Right! uva and the other publics increased because of the methodology changes. Uva was not T25 before, Emory has always been.

Actually UVA has always been T25 for all universities and T2, T3 and T4 for best public in the USA for the last decade

No it was not, it was 26 in 2020, and 21.

losers, go get a life

Be mad, uva is T30. Not T25.

[Anonymous]

It's the USNWR rankings. google it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

You may be correct…but it’s whatever USNews ranks as top 25.

Correct.

Everyone has their own opinion.

USNews pretty much is the source despite some detractors who don’t like where their college is ranked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

Not sure if you left off Emory on purpose or by accident but UVA was ranked 26 2-3 years ago. Emory has always been T25, usually T20. Also more students choose Emory over UVa.

Right! uva and the other publics increased because of the methodology changes. Uva was not T25 before, Emory has always been.

Actually UVA has always been T25 for all universities and T2, T3 and T4 for best public in the USA for the last decade

No it was not, it was 26 in 2020, and 21.

losers, go get a life

Be mad, uva is T30. Not T25.

Does anyone really, really care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, why do people say T40? It feels like an arbitrary cutoff, but I see it more than T30 or T60, so there must be some reason, right?

(Totally just curious. Don’t know or care what the schools DC applied to are ranked.)

Don't hear "T40" much at all.

T10, T20, T25, T50 are the common "top" ranking references.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the 30 universities that make up the top 20

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Texas
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
USC
NYU
Georgia Tech

Some people also include LACs and service academies. Those would include

West Point
Annapolis
Williams
Pomona
Amherst
Swarthmore
Harvey Mudd
Bowdoin
Claremont McKenna
Air Force

Collectively, these are the 40 colleges that constitute the top 20

Nice try the top 30 are
MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona

Texas? Georgia tech? Absolutely not.

Scratch the service academies. No one seriously looking at colleges counts those.

[Anonymous]

They are referring to whichever schools they consider top 25.

[Anonymous]

UNSWR has following:

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges

Which is further divided into:

Top National Univ:
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Top National LACs
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges

Usually for National Univ Top 40 are considered to be best, for LACs Top 20 are considered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

No we don't, Emory is T25, UVA (and maybe Umich) are not. Emory has been Top 20 for years while UVA has never been.

Emory? lol no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

Not sure if you left off Emory on purpose or by accident but UVA was ranked 26 2-3 years ago. Emory has always been T25, usually T20. Also more students choose Emory over UVa.

Right! uva and the other publics increased because of the methodology changes. Uva was not T25 before, Emory has always been.

Actually UVA has always been T25 for all universities and T2, T3 and T4 for best public in the USA for the last decade

No it was not, it was 26 in 2020, and 21.

losers, go get a life

Be mad, uva is T30. Not T25.

Does anyone really, really care?

The exceptionally pathetic losers on this forum care a lot, apparently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are the 30 universities that make up the top 20

MIT
Stanford
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Penn
Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Vanderbilt
Dartmouth
Chicago
Rice
CalTech
Brown
Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Michigan
Berkeley
Georgetown
UVA
UCLA
Emory
Texas
Carnegie Mellon
WashU
USC
NYU
Georgia Tech

Some people also include LACs and service academies. Those would include

West Point
Annapolis
Williams
Pomona
Amherst
Swarthmore
Harvey Mudd
Bowdoin
Claremont McKenna
Air Force

Collectively, these are the 40 colleges that constitute the top 20

According to whom? You?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

You may be correct…but it’s whatever USNews ranks as top 25.

Correct.

Everyone has their own opinion.

USNews pretty much is the source despite some detractors who don’t like where their college is ranked.

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