When people refer to top 20 and top 25 schools what are they?

[Anonymous]

I first learned about USC in detail from the College Admissions Scandal, and I was blown away by the money people were spending and the risk they were taking for USC and Georgetown?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is asked over and over every week.
Ivy+ has a fairly consistent definition based on studies using that term and defining it as The 8 ivies plusMIT Stanford Duke Uchicago. Most people would add the perennial T10 schools Caltech, Northwestern, Hopkins. Thats the T-15. After that using traditional strength of student body ranking the rest of the T25 are:
UCB, WashU, Rice, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, CMU, UCLA, Mich, UVa, ordered variously based on personal preference and bias but basically everyone agrees these are the 16-25 group of schools.

No we don't, Emory is T25, UVA (and maybe Umich) are not. Emory has been Top 20 for years while UVA has never been.

And you see how dumb that is? There are way, way more than 25 excellent universities in this huge country where, on average, over 2.4 million first-year students enter college every year.

It's not.dumb at all if DCUM members were intellectually honest. It has a knack for disrespecting Emory and a few others schools for the sake of UVa, Georgetown, Umich etc when they're ranked the same currently and historically Emory is ranked higher. That doesn't even include global rankings or even parchment where Emory does better to much better. We all know why the sentiment against Emory exists. If it wasn't in Atlanta it wouldn't be treated that way. Thats all I'll say.

Emory does get bashed quite a bit on this forum. It’s Southern, it doesn’t have big-time sports, it’s seen as an Ivy reject school for kids from the Northeast, and there aren’t a lot of “household name” famous people who have gone to Emory. It is what it is…unfortunately, some people can’t look past those things to appreciate what it does offer.

Those other schools are also ivy rejects, and Kenneth Cole, Newt Gingrich, Scooter Brawn, are household names. Does WashU have household names? Just curious.

Two problems here. If Scooter Brawn is a household name, you'd know his name was spelled Braun. and second LMAO - that is not an endorsement for Emory!

BUT...You know how to spell his name. So... i guess he is a household name

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

Correction.
Rice and Notre Dame did select Emory as well.
Looks like these five schools, WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Rice choose a lot of schools.
Peer selections from the link is pretty much same level among Emory, USC, and NYU.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

No, seems like you don't. If you toggle to "Who chose this college" instead of "Who this college chose" Of course NYU chose Stanford and Stanford didn't chose them back 🙄.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

You're conveniently skipped the peer reputation scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

No, seems like you don't. If you toggle to "Who chose this college" instead of "Who this college chose" Of course NYU chose Stanford and Stanford didn't chose them back 🙄.

Just like Emory chose Duke but Duke says F off lol.

What don't you get it??

[Anonymous]

NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, BC, Gatech, UNC are its own teir a step below Emory and UCLA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, BC, Gatech, UNC are its own teir a step below Emory and UCLA.

Parents and students don't think so. Emory and UCLA are more like peers to NYU and USC, and even Tufts

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, BC, Gatech, UNC are its own teir a step below Emory and UCLA.

Parents and students don't think so. Emory and UCLA are more like peers to NYU and USC, and even Tufts

Don't know which parents and students you're talking to, but either way most don't decide what prestige looks like, only the wealthy ones and academics decide.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, BC, Gatech, UNC are its own teir a step below Emory and UCLA.

Parents and students don't think so. Emory and UCLA are more like peers to NYU and USC, and even Tufts

The rankings do.

[Anonymous]

HYPSM wherever my kid goes and wherever rejected her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

No, seems like you don't. If you toggle to "Who chose this college" instead of "Who this college chose" Of course NYU chose Stanford and Stanford didn't chose them back 🙄.

Just like Emory chose Duke but Duke says F off lol.

What don't you get it??

Reputation score
Emory- 4.2
NYU- 4.0
USC-3.9

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nationally most people would think NYU and USC are more prestigious than UVA. Not many would think UCLA and Emroy are more prestigious than NYU or USC.

Most people are not elite themselves to be able to get into any of these schools. It's also dependent on income and class. Private school students will quickly think Emory and UCLA are more prestigious. Here's Based an example...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/0cxYjK3aEU

For US news reputation scores, UCLA and Emory/UVA are seen more favorably than NYU and USC (4.4, 4.2, 4.0, 3.9 respectively). Emory/UVA have more impressive graduates and Lastly, Emory has more elite peers schools than NYU and USC when looking at which schools choose each other as peers.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/who-does-your-college-think-its-peers-are?sra=true

What is this??

First link has less than 10 people with subjective mixed views.

On the second link, only WashU, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern selected Emory as a peer.
For NYU - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, CalTech, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU etc.
For USC - WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rice, CMU, etc.

Looks like WashU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern choose pretty much everyone.

Do you even understand the link? Is this the level of Emory intelligence?

No, seems like you don't. If you toggle to "Who chose this college" instead of "Who this college chose" Of course NYU chose Stanford and Stanford didn't chose them back 🙄.

Just like Emory chose Duke but Duke says F off lol.

What don't you get it??

Reputation score
Emory- 4.2
NYU- 4.0
USC-3.9

0.2 point makes Emory another level on what basis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, BC, Gatech, UNC are its own teir a step below Emory and UCLA.

Parents and students don't think so. Emory and UCLA are more like peers to NYU and USC, and even Tufts

The rankings do.

What parents and students think matter the most. Not magazine rankings.