Tysons Corner Casino -- Foregone Conclusion Now?

Anonymous
A casino in Tysons will make traffic worse for EVERYONE in the DMV.
Anonymous
Why is Surovell pushing it so hard when the county didn’t ask for it? Is he getting contributions from the developer? And why is former school board member Stella Pekarsky a sponsor of it? Money?

70% or more of gambling tax revenue would go to the state. Not the county. If the county builds the things it wants in Tyson’s, the county gets more revenue.

I’m a democrat but this thing looks like Trump style grift.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is Surovell pushing it so hard when the county didn’t ask for it? Is he getting contributions from the developer? And why is former school board member Stella Pekarsky a sponsor of it? Money?

70% or more of gambling tax revenue would go to the state. Not the county. If the county builds the things it wants in Tyson’s, the county gets more revenue.

I’m a democrat but this thing looks like Trump style grift.


Yes, yes, and yes. And the unions are heavily in favor because the developer has a made a deal with them for the jobs.

I think this article gives a good overview:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/01/08/new-developer-makes-case-for-proposed-tysons-casino-and-entertainment-district/
Anonymous
The bill was unsurprisingly voted out of subcommittee:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/tysons-casino-bill-advanced-from-senate-subcommittee/65-a31227e8-0e4f-4cdd-9601-89c0d12ff434

Gotta say, Surovell is coming off as a tremendous douchebag. I hope he's not planning on statewide office in the future.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The bill was unsurprisingly voted out of subcommittee:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/tysons-casino-bill-advanced-from-senate-subcommittee/65-a31227e8-0e4f-4cdd-9601-89c0d12ff434

Gotta say, Surovell is coming off as a tremendous douchebag. I hope he's not planning on statewide office in the future.


This bill sets a very dangerous precedent for the state legislature to override local zoning and encourages corruption. These shenanigans will not stop at Northern Virginia or be limited to casinos unless there is backlash from voters. We don’t want the legislature overriding local affairs to benefit the ultra wealthy at the expense of local residents.
Anonymous
The local citizens don't want the riff raff, crime and traffic. At all.
Anonymous
Go put it out on 81. Where citizens will benefit from jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Surovell pushing it so hard when the county didn’t ask for it? Is he getting contributions from the developer? And why is former school board member Stella Pekarsky a sponsor of it? Money?

70% or more of gambling tax revenue would go to the state. Not the county. If the county builds the things it wants in Tyson’s, the county gets more revenue.

I’m a democrat but this thing looks like Trump style grift.


Yes, yes, and yes. And the unions are heavily in favor because the developer has a made a deal with them for the jobs.

I think this article gives a good overview:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/01/08/new-developer-makes-case-for-proposed-tysons-casino-and-entertainment-district/


Projected revenue is $155 million. If Fairfax County only gets 30%, that $45 million is about 1.5% of Fairfax County's budget. Hooray? What a windfall?
Anonymous
The Board of Supervisors could zoning ordinance it away.

Or, they could do nothing, and focus on the best number of trees to require in parking lot medians or whatever.
Anonymous
This is so stupid, I am speechless. To plop a casino in an area already choked by traffic with the busiest highways intersections near the beltway and residents complaining about cut through traffic through residential streets it completely asinine. I cannot believe they compare this to the MGM, which is in an area that has nothing around but a cluster of hotels, very different. Tysons is one of the busiest residential and commercial clusters in DC metro and has traffic going in all directions. Plus gambling is a terrible addiction and having one medium size metro area have too many of them is going to be devastating to many families who don't know where to move anymore to get away and not have such easy access.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Board of Supervisors could zoning ordinance it away.

Or, they could do nothing, and focus on the best number of trees to require in parking lot medians or whatever.


So, here's my take:

-The General Assembly legislators are passing the buck. I hope the citizen opposition will be enough to overcome their desire to cater to the unions, but it might not be. Because they can pass this bill, and maybe (unlikely) Youngkin vetoes because he's also looking at his political future. So it's passed and then the buck passes to the FFX Co. Board of Supervisors and then they have to deal with the pressure from Comstock and the unions. The casino isn't going in Surovell's backyard so he doesn't care and he keeps Comstock and the unions happy because he tried.


Anonymous
Scott Surovell is a sleazy tool and he’d authorize crack sales in Tysons, too, as long as he could cut a deal with politicians like Louise Lucas (herself an admitted drug profiteer) and get a few more dollars for his rundown district off Route 1. He is going to bring down a whole slew of local Democrats like Dalia Palchik, Jimmy Bierman, Rip Sullivan, and Jennifer Boysko, who’ll get tossed from local office once the Republican candidates point out during the next election they didn’t stop their Democrat buddy Surovell from trying to inflict this unwanted casino on local residents. Good riddance.
Anonymous
That's great, it will drive more shopping to Maryland.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That's great, it will drive more shopping to Maryland.


Glory to the Old Line State. Let the secessionists rot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is Surovell pushing it so hard when the county didn’t ask for it? Is he getting contributions from the developer? And why is former school board member Stella Pekarsky a sponsor of it? Money?

70% or more of gambling tax revenue would go to the state. Not the county. If the county builds the things it wants in Tyson’s, the county gets more revenue.

I’m a democrat but this thing looks like Trump style grift.


Yes, yes, and yes. And the unions are heavily in favor because the developer has a made a deal with them for the jobs.

I think this article gives a good overview:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/01/08/new-developer-makes-case-for-proposed-tysons-casino-and-entertainment-district/


Projected revenue is $155 million. If Fairfax County only gets 30%, that $45 million is about 1.5% of Fairfax County's budget. Hooray? What a windfall?


Brick and mortar casinos are a poor investment. Unfortunately online gambling will overwhelm traditional casinos in 10 years and any revenue projections are inflated.
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