Tysons Corner Casino -- Foregone Conclusion Now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this a Katie Cristol idea?

That was my thought exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is going to learn the hard way from Maryland that when you interject partisanship into economic development you always lose. Turning down an arena but supporting a casino just because one had a Republican governor attached and the other has a Democratic legislator attached is bonkers.

Fairfax has been fighting against the casino from Day 1. You knew that? I'm not sure what you're trying to say in your post.

The decision making on both the arena and casino is happening in Richmond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a Katie Cristol idea?

That was my thought exactly.

me too. it's bad either way - either it's her (yet another) bad idea, or it's not her idea, in which case what is she even doing in her position?

[Anonymous]

If the casino backers spend enough money, they are likely to get Marsan’s through the State Senate to Fairfax residents for a vote. Unlike federal campaign finance laws, which make it illegal for candidates to use excess campaign contributions for personal enrichment, there aren’t the same prohibitions against that at the VA state government level.

Moreover, a casino in Tyson’s is arguably in the “best interests” of Richmond and the southern part of the state. Under Virginia state law, casino revenues are heavily taxed but 70% to 80% of the tax revenues from the casino and all associated amenities (hotel, performance venue, convention center, etc.) go to the State treasury rather than the county/local government. So casinos subside state government functions but don’t provide much funding for county/municipal services. The State Senators who vote for it will be voting to make NOVA an ATM for government services elsewhere in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the casino backers spend enough money, they are likely to get Marsan’s through the State Senate to Fairfax residents for a vote. Unlike federal campaign finance laws, which make it illegal for candidates to use excess campaign contributions for personal enrichment, there aren’t the same prohibitions against that at the VA state government level.

Moreover, a casino in Tyson’s is arguably in the “best interests” of Richmond and the southern part of the state. Under Virginia state law, casino revenues are heavily taxed but 70% to 80% of the tax revenues from the casino and all associated amenities (hotel, performance venue, convention center, etc.) go to the State treasury rather than the county/local government. So casinos subside state government functions but don’t provide much funding for county/municipal services. The State Senators who vote for it will be voting to make NOVA an ATM for government services elsewhere in Virginia.

^100% accurate

[Anonymous]

Why on earth don't they put a casino in the Richmond area then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why on earth don't they put a casino in the Richmond area then?

Why would they want a casino in their own backyard when they can put it in ours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why on earth don't they put a casino in the Richmond area then?

They tried and the citizens fought it. Was on the ballot as a referendum in 2023 and lost by a huge margin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the casino backers spend enough money, they are likely to get Marsan’s through the State Senate to Fairfax residents for a vote. Unlike federal campaign finance laws, which make it illegal for candidates to use excess campaign contributions for personal enrichment, there aren’t the same prohibitions against that at the VA state government level.

Moreover, a casino in Tyson’s is arguably in the “best interests” of Richmond and the southern part of the state. Under Virginia state law, casino revenues are heavily taxed but 70% to 80% of the tax revenues from the casino and all associated amenities (hotel, performance venue, convention center, etc.) go to the State treasury rather than the county/local government. So casinos subside state government functions but don’t provide much funding for county/municipal services. The State Senators who vote for it will be voting to make NOVA an ATM for government services elsewhere in Virginia.

Ugh. It makes this idea even worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia is going to learn the hard way from Maryland that when you interject partisanship into economic development you always lose. Turning down an arena but supporting a casino just because one had a Republican governor attached and the other has a Democratic legislator attached is bonkers.

Fairfax has been fighting against the casino from Day 1. You knew that? I'm not sure what you're trying to say in your post.

The decision making on both the arena and casino is happening in Richmond.

Not entirely. It would have to go to a referendum in Fairfax Co. If the current bill is killed in Richmond then no referendum and no Casino.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

Casinos are awful, attract crime, are predatory. There is nothing redeeming about them whatsoever. Look at what the MGM in National Harbor has become. If there isn't crime inside there, it's in the parking lot or you're being followed from the parking lot and assaulted when you get home. Look at the casino in downtown Baltimore near the Ravens Stadium off of 295. It is just disgusting.

Lots of trafficking and prostitution

[Anonymous]

I’m opposed to the casino in NOVA or anywhere the community opposes it in ROVA.

If it does land in Fairfax county, it better darn we’ll be used to defray our taxes — and not in the phony way where we pay the same or higher taxes while politicians claim we are saving money with a casino. I’d also want a critical amount of casino profits taken as taxes to offset the associated health and law enforcement costs. Casinos here should not be privately owned.

How do Native American tribes handle casino profits/recenue on reservation land?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

Yeah, I’m genuinely puzzled by this. I don’t get it.

It’s like abortion. If you don’t like abortion, don’t have one. If you don’t want to gamble, then don’t gamble.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

Casinos are ratchet AF. Brings a sleazy & tacky crowd. I hate going to concerts at MGM in Maryland because the casino crowd is just messy, the parking garage is a zoo, and there’s a ton of crime issues (drunken brawls, shootings, domestic fights, etc)

So what you’re saying is… you don’t want low income black people coming to TyCo.


Why not just say that, instead of all the crap and euphemisms you tried to pass off?


It’s an anon board. No one knows who you are here. You can just be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m opposed to the casino in NOVA or anywhere the community opposes it in ROVA.

If it does land in Fairfax county, it better darn we’ll be used to defray our taxes — and not in the phony way where we pay the same or higher taxes while politicians claim we are saving money with a casino. I’d also want a critical amount of casino profits taken as taxes to offset the associated health and law enforcement costs. Casinos here should not be privately owned.

How do Native American tribes handle casino profits/recenue on reservation land?

It's expected to generate $150 million in revenue. The Fairfax County budget is $3 billion. Not sure now much would go to Richmond.