Tysons Corner Casino -- Foregone Conclusion Now?

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Anonymous wrote:Casinos are awful, attract crime, are predatory. There is nothing redeeming about them whatsoever.

Casinos can be fun. Many people enjoy gambling and can manage it responsibly, going to casinos a few times a year with friends/colleagues. Casinos effectively subsidize other entertainment options (concerts, comedians, shows). Casinos generate significant tax revenue.

Of course, there are downsides, and casinos should be heavily regulated (and not allowed at all in some places). But to say there is nothing redeeming about them is simply not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

Casinos are ratchet AF. Brings a sleazy & tacky crowd. I hate going to concerts at MGM in Maryland because the casino crowd is just messy, the parking garage is a zoo, and there’s a ton of crime issues (drunken brawls, shootings, domestic fights, etc)

It’s not that bad or you wouldn’t have gone to concerts—plural—at the MGM.

I like the MGM. It’s fun. I saw Cher there and it was an amazing night. I think the casino itself is nice—no smoking, lots of security. Now, I don’t go on the floor at midnight on a Saturday or anything like that. But a little gaming, a nice dinner at Voltaggio, a concert, I’m in. The lobby is beautiful with the seasonal artistic displays.

That said, not all casinos are that nice. I went to Maryland Live for a concert, and it’s not anywhere near as nice as the MGM. I didn’t linger.

The MGM in PG County has gotten super gross. I live across the river in Alexandria and we used to go over there all the time to eat (the Shake Shack, when Jose Andres had a restaurant and more recently to the asian restaurant). I have also seen a few concerts there and I loved how close it was to my house and that the parking was free (saw Britney Spears and Bruno Mars there). In the last few years that entire area has exponentially declined and the MGM has gone down along with it. The parking lot is full of people smoking pot and with arguing/screaming with each other or with someone on their cell on speaker, nasty people roaming the mezzanine/corrider outside the casino floor which you must walk through to get anywhere, same people from parking lot on the terrace by the food court getting high and screaming on their phones, people who don't GAF and smoke/vape their pot inside the building, security escorting people from the floor to outside (and usually this is highly charged situation where the person is not going willingly so there are several security people vs the 1 person being removed and they're literally lifting the person off the ground and walking them outside), or even the creme de la creme when we say someone who had robbed the floor (grabbed chips) and was running out past the Asian restaurant (in the lobby areas that is often decorated where people take photos) to a get away car that was right at that exit (which isn't to the parking garage, you can drive right up to it) in the middle of a weekend afternoon.

I won't get started on the people that win big at the casino that then get followed home from the parking lot AND ROBBED when they get home.

[Anonymous]

There seem to be 2 types of casinos. The more upscale ones with nice restaurants, shows, and gaming that are more entertainment destinations for the evening. And the very simple gaming casinos that cater more to the crowd that is trying to turn their monthly govt stipend into something more.

An upscale entertainment casino in Tysons would be fun. A gaming only casino would not be a nice addition to the area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Casinos are awful, attract crime, are predatory. There is nothing redeeming about them whatsoever.

Casinos can be fun. Many people enjoy gambling and can manage it responsibly, going to casinos a few times a year with friends/colleagues. Casinos effectively subsidize other entertainment options (concerts, comedians, shows). Casinos generate significant tax revenue.

Of course, there are downsides, and casinos should be heavily regulated (and not allowed at all in some places). But to say there is nothing redeeming about them is simply not true.

The casino lobbyist has entered the chat. I am PP. I was talking about the Maryland casinos, and as for the state of Maryland, it is consistently one of the richest states in the country. It survived just fine without the tax revenue before. The same case was made to have one in Baltimore. That it would provide much needed jobs and tax revenue that could help revitalize the city.

Same argument was also made about bringing the lottery to Virginia in the 90s. It will fund education and all of the state's public schools will get much better.

How's that working out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seem to be 2 types of casinos. The more upscale ones with nice restaurants, shows, and gaming that are more entertainment destinations for the evening. And the very simple gaming casinos that cater more to the crowd that is trying to turn their monthly govt stipend into something more.

An upscale entertainment casino in Tysons would be fun. A gaming only casino would not be a nice addition to the area.

You don't need an entertainment area in Tysons because you have Capital One Hall right there at the Tysons exit. It has concerts and broadway shows on tour plus a hotel on top. It is a very nice venue.

[Anonymous]

The Democrat senators that are trying to build the Tyson’s one are doing so fradulently

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seem to be 2 types of casinos. The more upscale ones with nice restaurants, shows, and gaming that are more entertainment destinations for the evening. And the very simple gaming casinos that cater more to the crowd that is trying to turn their monthly govt stipend into something more.

An upscale entertainment casino in Tysons would be fun. A gaming only casino would not be a nice addition to the area.

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This is what they did at MGM in Maryland and it still devolved into a trashy sh#tshow. A casino at Tysons will just do the same.

Antisocial degenerates are attracted to casinos. That's just the way it is. You can put nice restaurants, a music venue, seasonal IG-worthy decor.....and the problematic casino crowd will still ruin all of that. Because they are there to party, gamble, get drunk, get high, and get messy. And that, in turn, starts to attract criminal elements.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

Casinos are ratchet AF. Brings a sleazy & tacky crowd. I hate going to concerts at MGM in Maryland because the casino crowd is just messy, the parking garage is a zoo, and there’s a ton of crime issues (drunken brawls, shootings, domestic fights, etc)

It’s not that bad or you wouldn’t have gone to concerts—plural—at the MGM.

I like the MGM. It’s fun. I saw Cher there and it was an amazing night. I think the casino itself is nice—no smoking, lots of security. Now, I don’t go on the floor at midnight on a Saturday or anything like that. But a little gaming, a nice dinner at Voltaggio, a concert, I’m in. The lobby is beautiful with the seasonal artistic displays.

That said, not all casinos are that nice. I went to Maryland Live for a concert, and it’s not anywhere near as nice as the MGM. I didn’t linger.

The MGM in PG County has gotten super gross. I live across the river in Alexandria and we used to go over there all the time to eat (the Shake Shack, when Jose Andres had a restaurant and more recently to the asian restaurant). I have also seen a few concerts there and I loved how close it was to my house and that the parking was free (saw Britney Spears and Bruno Mars there). In the last few years that entire area has exponentially declined and the MGM has gone down along with it. The parking lot is full of people smoking pot and with arguing/screaming with each other or with someone on their cell on speaker, nasty people roaming the mezzanine/corrider outside the casino floor which you must walk through to get anywhere, same people from parking lot on the terrace by the food court getting high and screaming on their phones, people who don't GAF and smoke/vape their pot inside the building, security escorting people from the floor to outside (and usually this is highly charged situation where the person is not going willingly so there are several security people vs the 1 person being removed and they're literally lifting the person off the ground and walking them outside), or even the creme de la creme when we say someone who had robbed the floor (grabbed chips) and was running out past the Asian restaurant (in the lobby areas that is often decorated where people take photos) to a get away car that was right at that exit (which isn't to the parking garage, you can drive right up to it) in the middle of a weekend afternoon.

I won't get started on the people that win big at the casino that then get followed home from the parking lot AND ROBBED when they get home.

LOL

I experienced ALL OF THIS in my last two visits, including someone running out of the casino with stolen chips on a Saturday night and security giving chase. From what I understand its a pretty common occurance.

I've been to MGM three times - once for a bachelor party (pre-COVID) and twice for concerts (in the past 18 months). MGM was a lot nicer pre-COVID.

[Anonymous]

Marsden is sneaky. I have no respect for the man. He was invited to our local meeting of Dems - the point being - to keep us informed of local and state issues. Never mentioned Tysons. He's a snake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

There’s literally a million reasons.

A casino will hurt local businesses, increase gridlock and public safety problems, lower property values, and encourage risky behaviors, while forever changing the character of our community.

Casinos bring exponentially more crime.

That's far from settled fact:
https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/does-presence-casinos-increase-crime-examination-casino-and-control
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0166046217300169

"Encourage risky behaviors." Like what?
"Changing the character of our community." Who are you afraid is going to come to a casino in Tysons?

Think carefully about your answer to that last question.

Like people getting addicted to gambling and having their lives ruined? NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would be so bad about having a casino in Tysons?

Casinos are ratchet AF. Brings a sleazy & tacky crowd. I hate going to concerts at MGM in Maryland because the casino crowd is just messy, the parking garage is a zoo, and there’s a ton of crime issues (drunken brawls, shootings, domestic fights, etc)

Ratchet? Explain.

google it, ffs

[Anonymous]

Isn't the mgm in Maryland trashy because it's in pg county?

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They are putting in affordable housing within walking distance of the casino as well. Sounds like a bad combination. The area near the Walmart already has homeless wandering around and the Casino would attract crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the mgm in Maryland trashy because it's in pg county?

Now we are getting somewhere in this conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't the mgm in Maryland trashy because it's in pg county?

Now we are getting somewhere in this conversation.

What about PG County would make it trashy?