Things are not so bad after all for us divorced guys 45+

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Anonymous wrote:Women in their late mid 30s are advanced maternal age , they are old and not looking to have kids

Not true. Most of my friends had first kids at 40-45. My youngest is 9. I am 46. I am hardly old among moms: you are out of touch.

I was the youngest of my friends to have my first at 34 by accident. Most did not have a kid until 40.

+1 I have plenty of single girl friends in their late thirties that have frozen their eggs and still hope to have children once they find a partner.

It's a medical term and proven. moron!

Advanced maternal age (AMA) is defined as pregnancy at age 35 or older. As women age, the risks of pregnancy increase, and AMA is considered a risk factor for adverse outcomes. For example, women over 35 are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancies, gestational diabetes, and hypertension disorders. Other complications include: Miscarriage, Congenital disorders, High cholesterol, and Thyroid disease.

Genetic risks
Genetic risks are more common in pregnancies of older women. One of the biggest risks we talk about with mothers 35 and older is the chance of carrying a baby with Down syndrome. As mentioned, that risk increases as a mother ages.

If you’re considered of advanced maternal age, it’s a good idea to sit down with a genetics counselor early in pregnancy – typically between 11 and 13 weeks.

At the Methodist Perinatal Center, this is the first thing we go over with mothers 35 and older. The goal is to give families as much information as they need to choose the genetic testing plan that best meets their needs.


Fetal risks
An ultrasound routinely follows the genetic counseling session. If a family chooses to undergo screening, the ultrasound often makes up a part of that. It’s also used to begin addressing the fetal risks in pregnancy.

Expect your doctor to evaluate early fetal anatomy, as every mother, no matter her age, has a 3 percent risk of giving birth to a baby with a congenital anomaly (birth defect, disorder or malformation). After the ultrasound, labs will be drawn to complete any testing.

Once results are available, the nurses or genetic counselors will follow up to determine what next steps are needed. If your results are normal, your next visit is usually around 20 weeks. If the opposite is true, rest assured that your health care team will work to make sure a plan is in place to meet your specific needs.

Additional fetal risks include:

Miscarriage
Abnormal growth
Stillbirth
Your perinatology team commonly recommends follow-up ultrasound exams to ensure that your baby is growing normally. We usually also recommend targeted stillbirth testing later in pregnancy.


Maternal risks
Routine prenatal care is designed to find medical complications of pregnancy, so it’s important that you continue to see your general OB/GYN.

Just as genetic and fetal risks tend to increase with age, so do many maternal risks such as:

Preterm birth
C-section
High blood pressure
Gestational diabetes
The specifics of any and all risks are different for every family. A key job of your perinatal team is communicating the one(s) most relevant to you.

There is no universal fertility cliff at 35. There have been TONS of articles about this in the last several years. The AMA age is based on very old data and assumptions and even doctors have written about this. You need to read more. Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting...a woman the same age proudly (and is even encouraged) date a younger man of the same age but a man doing so suddenly it's a flood of comments telling me to rethink his position. Aren't men entitled to enjoy dating a younger person as well? Please someone explain to me like I am 2 years old. A 46 years old woman dates an early 30 years old guy and even encouraged other divorced women to do so but then they tell the 46 years old guy to date women the same age as him or older. Some even call an older man dating a younger woman creepy or gross. What about the woman dating younger? Interesting

These things are not comparable. Older man dating a younger woman who probably wants children is completely different than an older woman dating a younger man when they know exactly what they are doing, and it’s clear that they’re not going to have a long-term relationship.

When I date younger women they know exactly what they are doing (they know that the moment they swipe right) and it’s clear we’re not going to have a long-term relationship.

Explain this to OP

A million women sprint to their keyboards to insult OP and then wipe the spittle off their screen. OP sounds like he’s got a good thing going on. Why spoil it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women in their late mid 30s are advanced maternal age , they are old and not looking to have kids

Not true. Most of my friends had first kids at 40-45. My youngest is 9. I am 46. I am hardly old among moms: you are out of touch.

I was the youngest of my friends to have my first at 34 by accident. Most did not have a kid until 40.

+1 I have plenty of single girl friends in their late thirties that have frozen their eggs and still hope to have children once they find a partner.

It's a medical term and proven. moron!

Advanced maternal age (AMA) is defined as pregnancy at age 35 or older. As women age, the risks of pregnancy increase, and AMA is considered a risk factor for adverse outcomes. For example, women over 35 are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancies, gestational diabetes, and hypertension disorders. Other complications include: Miscarriage, Congenital disorders, High cholesterol, and Thyroid disease.

Genetic risks
Genetic risks are more common in pregnancies of older women. One of the biggest risks we talk about with mothers 35 and older is the chance of carrying a baby with Down syndrome. As mentioned, that risk increases as a mother ages.

If you’re considered of advanced maternal age, it’s a good idea to sit down with a genetics counselor early in pregnancy – typically between 11 and 13 weeks.

At the Methodist Perinatal Center, this is the first thing we go over with mothers 35 and older. The goal is to give families as much information as they need to choose the genetic testing plan that best meets their needs.


Fetal risks
An ultrasound routinely follows the genetic counseling session. If a family chooses to undergo screening, the ultrasound often makes up a part of that. It’s also used to begin addressing the fetal risks in pregnancy.

Expect your doctor to evaluate early fetal anatomy, as every mother, no matter her age, has a 3 percent risk of giving birth to a baby with a congenital anomaly (birth defect, disorder or malformation). After the ultrasound, labs will be drawn to complete any testing.

Once results are available, the nurses or genetic counselors will follow up to determine what next steps are needed. If your results are normal, your next visit is usually around 20 weeks. If the opposite is true, rest assured that your health care team will work to make sure a plan is in place to meet your specific needs.

Additional fetal risks include:

Miscarriage
Abnormal growth
Stillbirth
Your perinatology team commonly recommends follow-up ultrasound exams to ensure that your baby is growing normally. We usually also recommend targeted stillbirth testing later in pregnancy.


Maternal risks
Routine prenatal care is designed to find medical complications of pregnancy, so it’s important that you continue to see your general OB/GYN.

Just as genetic and fetal risks tend to increase with age, so do many maternal risks such as:

Preterm birth
C-section
High blood pressure
Gestational diabetes
The specifics of any and all risks are different for every family. A key job of your perinatal team is communicating the one(s) most relevant to you.

Start reading (and women have had babies well into their late 30s and early 40s for at least 100 years now…second kid accident at 37 in one time sex in years…age 35 like it fall off a cliff had been debunked). Stop espousing decades old info.

Many articles on this:

Grazia Daily UKhttps://graziadaily.co.uk › life › m...We've Been Sold A Lie About The Fertility Cliff

The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com › aprIt is time to reassess our obsession with women's fertility and the number 35

BBChttps://www.bbc.com › article › 20...Women's fertility is more complicated than you might have heard

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2023/11 › infert...Don't Call It “Infertility”

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2020/08 › fertili...Age 35 Isn't a Fertility Cliff. Why Do We Think It Is?

Coveteurhttps://coveteur.com › fertility-cliffIs the Fertility Cliff a Myth?

Women's Healthhttps://www.womenshealthmag.com › ...No, Women's Fertility Isn't Suddenly Doomed At Age 35

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a vasectomy and you can date all the 35 year olds you want, you just need to tell them early on. If they are fine with it, party on!

This. If OP is done with having kids, OP should get a vasectomy and put that he has had one in his OLD profile next to where he says "no" for more children. Then, OP can date whatever adult woman she wants with a clear conscience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get a vasectomy and you can date all the 35 year olds you want, you just need to tell them early on. If they are fine with it, party on!

This. If OP is done with having kids, OP should get a vasectomy and put that he has had one in his OLD profile next to where he says "no" for more children. Then, OP can date whatever adult woman she wants with a clear conscience.

Conscience? OP sounds like he is clear and upfront that he doesn’t want more children. He should consider getting a vasectomy because he doesn’t want more kids, not because some woman may not be clear on their goals.

[Anonymous]

Not OP, but when I date women in their 30s, I tell them I don’t want more kids. (I don’t with them).

When I date women in their 20s, of course I tell them I do. (And I’m not lying)

I love kids, and if I have more, they can attend private schools and have every luxury the whole way through. And they’ll have a mom who’s still alive long after I’m underground.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women in their late mid 30s are advanced maternal age , they are old and not looking to have kids

Not true. Most of my friends had first kids at 40-45. My youngest is 9. I am 46. I am hardly old among moms: you are out of touch.

I was the youngest of my friends to have my first at 34 by accident. Most did not have a kid until 40.

+1 I have plenty of single girl friends in their late thirties that have frozen their eggs and still hope to have children once they find a partner.

It's a medical term and proven. moron!

Advanced maternal age (AMA) is defined as pregnancy at age 35 or older. As women age, the risks of pregnancy increase, and AMA is considered a risk factor for adverse outcomes. For example, women over 35 are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancies, gestational diabetes, and hypertension disorders. Other complications include: Miscarriage, Congenital disorders, High cholesterol, and Thyroid disease.

Genetic risks
Genetic risks are more common in pregnancies of older women. One of the biggest risks we talk about with mothers 35 and older is the chance of carrying a baby with Down syndrome. As mentioned, that risk increases as a mother ages.

If you’re considered of advanced maternal age, it’s a good idea to sit down with a genetics counselor early in pregnancy – typically between 11 and 13 weeks.

At the Methodist Perinatal Center, this is the first thing we go over with mothers 35 and older. The goal is to give families as much information as they need to choose the genetic testing plan that best meets their needs.


Fetal risks
An ultrasound routinely follows the genetic counseling session. If a family chooses to undergo screening, the ultrasound often makes up a part of that. It’s also used to begin addressing the fetal risks in pregnancy.

Expect your doctor to evaluate early fetal anatomy, as every mother, no matter her age, has a 3 percent risk of giving birth to a baby with a congenital anomaly (birth defect, disorder or malformation). After the ultrasound, labs will be drawn to complete any testing.

Once results are available, the nurses or genetic counselors will follow up to determine what next steps are needed. If your results are normal, your next visit is usually around 20 weeks. If the opposite is true, rest assured that your health care team will work to make sure a plan is in place to meet your specific needs.

Additional fetal risks include:

Miscarriage
Abnormal growth
Stillbirth
Your perinatology team commonly recommends follow-up ultrasound exams to ensure that your baby is growing normally. We usually also recommend targeted stillbirth testing later in pregnancy.


Maternal risks
Routine prenatal care is designed to find medical complications of pregnancy, so it’s important that you continue to see your general OB/GYN.

Just as genetic and fetal risks tend to increase with age, so do many maternal risks such as:

Preterm birth
C-section
High blood pressure
Gestational diabetes
The specifics of any and all risks are different for every family. A key job of your perinatal team is communicating the one(s) most relevant to you.

Start reading (and women have had babies well into their late 30s and early 40s for at least 100 years now…second kid accident at 37 in one time sex in years…age 35 like it fall off a cliff had been debunked). Stop espousing decades old info.

Many articles on this:

Grazia Daily UKhttps://graziadaily.co.uk › life › m...We've Been Sold A Lie About The Fertility Cliff

The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com › aprIt is time to reassess our obsession with women's fertility and the number 35

BBChttps://www.bbc.com › article › 20...Women's fertility is more complicated than you might have heard

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2023/11 › infert...Don't Call It “Infertility”

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2020/08 › fertili...Age 35 Isn't a Fertility Cliff. Why Do We Think It Is?

Coveteurhttps://coveteur.com › fertility-cliffIs the Fertility Cliff a Myth?

Women's Healthhttps://www.womenshealthmag.com › ...No, Women's Fertility Isn't Suddenly Doomed At Age 35

those are not credible articles here are real medical articles and studies

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8364335/
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/advanced-maternal-age
https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical-guidance/obstetric-care-consensus/articles/2022/08/pregnancy-at-age-35-years-or-older

[Anonymous]

So funny how old divorced guys with kids want young, fertile women to date but don’t want more kids.

You’re attracted to them BECAUSE of their fertility. Date older women if you don’t want kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get a vasectomy and you can date all the 35 year olds you want, you just need to tell them early on. If they are fine with it, party on!

This. If OP is done with having kids, OP should get a vasectomy and put that he has had one in his OLD profile next to where he says "no" for more children. Then, OP can date whatever adult woman she wants with a clear conscience.

WTF. You put in your profile 'has children and doesn't want more'.

You don't put anything about your testicles. How tacky.

-Snipped divorced guy in 40s

[Anonymous]

What we are trying to tell you OP is that thirty something year old women are usually not upfront with their intentions and kids even if you are upfront with them. It’s on you to make sure you don’t want kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women in their late mid 30s are advanced maternal age , they are old and not looking to have kids

Not true. Most of my friends had first kids at 40-45. My youngest is 9. I am 46. I am hardly old among moms: you are out of touch.

I was the youngest of my friends to have my first at 34 by accident. Most did not have a kid until 40.

+1 I have plenty of single girl friends in their late thirties that have frozen their eggs and still hope to have children once they find a partner.

It's a medical term and proven. moron!

Advanced maternal age (AMA) is defined as pregnancy at age 35 or older. As women age, the risks of pregnancy increase, and AMA is considered a risk factor for adverse outcomes. For example, women over 35 are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancies, gestational diabetes, and hypertension disorders. Other complications include: Miscarriage, Congenital disorders, High cholesterol, and Thyroid disease.

Genetic risks
Genetic risks are more common in pregnancies of older women. One of the biggest risks we talk about with mothers 35 and older is the chance of carrying a baby with Down syndrome. As mentioned, that risk increases as a mother ages.

If you’re considered of advanced maternal age, it’s a good idea to sit down with a genetics counselor early in pregnancy – typically between 11 and 13 weeks.

At the Methodist Perinatal Center, this is the first thing we go over with mothers 35 and older. The goal is to give families as much information as they need to choose the genetic testing plan that best meets their needs.


Fetal risks
An ultrasound routinely follows the genetic counseling session. If a family chooses to undergo screening, the ultrasound often makes up a part of that. It’s also used to begin addressing the fetal risks in pregnancy.

Expect your doctor to evaluate early fetal anatomy, as every mother, no matter her age, has a 3 percent risk of giving birth to a baby with a congenital anomaly (birth defect, disorder or malformation). After the ultrasound, labs will be drawn to complete any testing.

Once results are available, the nurses or genetic counselors will follow up to determine what next steps are needed. If your results are normal, your next visit is usually around 20 weeks. If the opposite is true, rest assured that your health care team will work to make sure a plan is in place to meet your specific needs.

Additional fetal risks include:

Miscarriage
Abnormal growth
Stillbirth
Your perinatology team commonly recommends follow-up ultrasound exams to ensure that your baby is growing normally. We usually also recommend targeted stillbirth testing later in pregnancy.


Maternal risks
Routine prenatal care is designed to find medical complications of pregnancy, so it’s important that you continue to see your general OB/GYN.

Just as genetic and fetal risks tend to increase with age, so do many maternal risks such as:

Preterm birth
C-section
High blood pressure
Gestational diabetes
The specifics of any and all risks are different for every family. A key job of your perinatal team is communicating the one(s) most relevant to you.

Start reading (and women have had babies well into their late 30s and early 40s for at least 100 years now…second kid accident at 37 in one time sex in years…age 35 like it fall off a cliff had been debunked). Stop espousing decades old info.

Many articles on this:

Grazia Daily UKhttps://graziadaily.co.uk › life › m...We've Been Sold A Lie About The Fertility Cliff

The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com › aprIt is time to reassess our obsession with women's fertility and the number 35

BBChttps://www.bbc.com › article › 20...Women's fertility is more complicated than you might have heard

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2023/11 › infert...Don't Call It “Infertility”

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2020/08 › fertili...Age 35 Isn't a Fertility Cliff. Why Do We Think It Is?

Coveteurhttps://coveteur.com › fertility-cliffIs the Fertility Cliff a Myth?

Women's Healthhttps://www.womenshealthmag.com › ...No, Women's Fertility Isn't Suddenly Doomed At Age 35

those are not credible articles here are real medical articles and studies

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8364335/
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/advanced-maternal-age
https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical-guidance/obstetric-care-consensus/articles/2022/08/pregnancy-at-age-35-years-or-older

You don’t get it. Fertility can fall but it is not a cliff for every woman at all. You do not understand why I am saying at all.

You don’t get it. Fertility can fall but it is not a cliff at 35 for every woman at all. You do not understand why I am saying at all.

You clearly didn’t read the links. Read the state article at least understand (by a doctor).

[Anonymous]

Man comes into DCUM and explains why he's happy.

This inspires countless women to respond that he's doing it wrong and they would never be the woman who's dating him and making him happy.

Never change, DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women in their late mid 30s are advanced maternal age , they are old and not looking to have kids

Not true. Most of my friends had first kids at 40-45. My youngest is 9. I am 46. I am hardly old among moms: you are out of touch.

I was the youngest of my friends to have my first at 34 by accident. Most did not have a kid until 40.

+1 I have plenty of single girl friends in their late thirties that have frozen their eggs and still hope to have children once they find a partner.

It's a medical term and proven. moron!

Advanced maternal age (AMA) is defined as pregnancy at age 35 or older. As women age, the risks of pregnancy increase, and AMA is considered a risk factor for adverse outcomes. For example, women over 35 are more likely to experience ectopic pregnancies, gestational diabetes, and hypertension disorders. Other complications include: Miscarriage, Congenital disorders, High cholesterol, and Thyroid disease.

Genetic risks
Genetic risks are more common in pregnancies of older women. One of the biggest risks we talk about with mothers 35 and older is the chance of carrying a baby with Down syndrome. As mentioned, that risk increases as a mother ages.

If you’re considered of advanced maternal age, it’s a good idea to sit down with a genetics counselor early in pregnancy – typically between 11 and 13 weeks.

At the Methodist Perinatal Center, this is the first thing we go over with mothers 35 and older. The goal is to give families as much information as they need to choose the genetic testing plan that best meets their needs.


Fetal risks
An ultrasound routinely follows the genetic counseling session. If a family chooses to undergo screening, the ultrasound often makes up a part of that. It’s also used to begin addressing the fetal risks in pregnancy.

Expect your doctor to evaluate early fetal anatomy, as every mother, no matter her age, has a 3 percent risk of giving birth to a baby with a congenital anomaly (birth defect, disorder or malformation). After the ultrasound, labs will be drawn to complete any testing.

Once results are available, the nurses or genetic counselors will follow up to determine what next steps are needed. If your results are normal, your next visit is usually around 20 weeks. If the opposite is true, rest assured that your health care team will work to make sure a plan is in place to meet your specific needs.

Additional fetal risks include:

Miscarriage
Abnormal growth
Stillbirth
Your perinatology team commonly recommends follow-up ultrasound exams to ensure that your baby is growing normally. We usually also recommend targeted stillbirth testing later in pregnancy.


Maternal risks
Routine prenatal care is designed to find medical complications of pregnancy, so it’s important that you continue to see your general OB/GYN.

Just as genetic and fetal risks tend to increase with age, so do many maternal risks such as:

Preterm birth
C-section
High blood pressure
Gestational diabetes
The specifics of any and all risks are different for every family. A key job of your perinatal team is communicating the one(s) most relevant to you.

Start reading (and women have had babies well into their late 30s and early 40s for at least 100 years now…second kid accident at 37 in one time sex in years…age 35 like it fall off a cliff had been debunked). Stop espousing decades old info.

Many articles on this:

Grazia Daily UKhttps://graziadaily.co.uk › life › m...We've Been Sold A Lie About The Fertility Cliff

The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com › aprIt is time to reassess our obsession with women's fertility and the number 35

BBChttps://www.bbc.com › article › 20...Women's fertility is more complicated than you might have heard

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2023/11 › infert...Don't Call It “Infertility”

Slatehttps://slate.com › 2020/08 › fertili...Age 35 Isn't a Fertility Cliff. Why Do We Think It Is?

Coveteurhttps://coveteur.com › fertility-cliffIs the Fertility Cliff a Myth?

Women's Healthhttps://www.womenshealthmag.com › ...No, Women's Fertility Isn't Suddenly Doomed At Age 35

those are not credible articles here are real medical articles and studies

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8364335/
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/advanced-maternal-age
https://www.acog.org/clinical/clinical-guidance/obstetric-care-consensus/articles/2022/08/pregnancy-at-age-35-years-or-older

And since you don’t know how to read articles that do site medical studies. I’m copying pasting one for you since you’re too lazy to click on a link to actually read:

“ A study extending women’s reproductive years offers a chance to look again at how the age of 35 has been treated as a fertility cliff
Sat 10 Apr 2021 00.00 EDT

You might want to adjust your biological clock

Good news, ladies! We’ve officially been granted two more years of useful life. According to a new study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the reproductive years for women in the United States have increased from 35 to 37.1. The study looked at 60-year trends in reproductive life spans and found that the average of menopause had gone up, while the average of the first period had gone down.
While the study was referring to reproductive years, not age, it has prompted a discussion about the significance of the number 35 and fertility. For a long time, the age of 35 has been treated like it’s some kind of fertility cliff. Hit that magic number and you’re officially described as being of “advanced maternal age” or a “geriatric mother”. You’re given dire warnings about how hard it will be to get pregnant and all the problems you and your baby might face if you do. Your pregnancy is immediately labelled “high-risk” and subject to extra monitoring. Trying to get pregnant after 35 is a process that is often shrouded in stress and judgment.

The quality of your eggs declines over time, that’s very clear, but the current obsession with the age 35 as a fertility threshold is outdated and unscientific. Take, for example, the oft-cited statistic that one in three women aged 35-39 will not be pregnant after a year of trying. Want to know where that statistic is from? Data from 1700s France. Researchers looked at a bunch of church birth records from people whose life expectancy at the time was around 30, and came up with these statistics. One imagines the researchers would have been ridiculed in any other scenario. However, since this statistic serves the very useful purpose of shaming and scaring women it was parroted endlessly. There is, by the way, more modern – and significantly more cheering – data to hand. One study published in 2004 that looked at 770 European women found that, with sex at least twice a week, 78% of women aged 35 to 40 conceived within a year, compared with 84% of women aged 20 to 34. The Atlantic notes that these encouraging figures were left out of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine’s (ASRM) 2008 committee opinion on female age and fertility, which instead relied on “the most-ominous historical data”. A few years later the ASRM also launched a controversial ad campaign reminding people that “women in their twenties and early thirties are most likely to conceive”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man comes into DCUM and explains why he's happy.

This inspires countless women to respond that he's doing it wrong and they would never be the woman who's dating him and making him happy.

Never change, DCUM.

Man doesn’t want to live in reality and man upset when reality is discussed.

Never change, DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. The discussion about kids did come and I made it clear that I was done having kids. I do not plan to be remarried right away but I do not want to discount that. The lady I am currently seeing said she is unsure whether she wants kids but as of right now she doesn't want to have kids.

lol. Until she surprisingly ends up pregnant.

It will only be a surprise to him.

Guys are so gullible.

How are they so stupid

Vasectomy quick

They’re not stupid, they just play that way. I mean, the Jezebel trapping a man is a tale as old as whatever stupid and misogynistic meme you want to believe.

Love how men have so much agency in everything until
It comes to reproduction.

Uhh they have a ton of agency. It's called a vasectomy.