Rules about dating (14 years old)

Anonymous
I'm of the cross that bridge when I get to it camp. I remember being 14 even though it was a long time ago, so I'll try to be somewhat reasonable.

The nice thing is that my DD goes to a school outside of our neighborhood. Until she can drive, I am involved in her social life, whether she likes it or not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I do not allow it or encourage it. A 14-year-old is not in a position to "date" anyone. If they're a boy, they don't have the resources to take a girl out on dates and I'm certainly not footing the bill for his romantic life.


This is a fairly sexist and dated way of looking at things. My son is 16. He usually pays for a date the first time he goes out with a girl, if he is the one that asked her (instead of vice versa). But not every single date afterwards. I don't think this is something that is done or expected in 2023.


He sounds cheap. I’ll tell my daughter to avoid boys like that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm of the cross that bridge when I get to it camp. I remember being 14 even though it was a long time ago, so I'll try my to be somewhat reasonable.


+1

Firmly in the “parent the kid you have” camp. I want both of my kids to learn how to have safe, healthy relationships, and that will look different for the two of them.
Anonymous
This is a fairly sexist and dated way of looking at things. My son is 16. He usually pays for a date the first time he goes out with a girl, if he is the one that asked her (instead of vice versa). But not every single date afterwards. I don't think this is something that is done or expected in 2023.


He sounds cheap. I’ll tell my daughter to avoid boys like that.


Ok, don't think it will be an issue for him for her to take a pass, but you do you.
Anonymous
The pro-teen dating parents are so committed to their delusions and they want to gaslight those of us who recognize that the emotional intensity of an exclusive romantic relationship is NOT something young teens should be dabbling in, into believing we’re the unreasonable ones.


An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
The pro-teen dating parents are so committed to their delusions and they want to gaslight those of us who recognize that the emotional intensity of an exclusive romantic relationship is NOT something young teens should be dabbling in, into believing we’re the unreasonable ones.


An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.


Let the group of boys and girls go to the local ice cream place and hang out. More the merrier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
The pro-teen dating parents are so committed to their delusions and they want to gaslight those of us who recognize that the emotional intensity of an exclusive romantic relationship is NOT something young teens should be dabbling in, into believing we’re the unreasonable ones.


An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.


That sounds like friends hanging out. I have no problems with my teens doing that with a group of friends.

No need for 1:1 dates like that until they’re a little older.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The pro-teen dating parents are so committed to their delusions and they want to gaslight those of us who recognize that the emotional intensity of an exclusive romantic relationship is NOT something young teens should be dabbling in, into believing we’re the unreasonable ones.


An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.


Let the group of boys and girls go to the local ice cream place and hang out. More the merrier.


Exactly. At 14 and 15 just hang out with a group of friends! Boys and girls is fine.

But these intense, 1:1 boyfriend-girlfriend relationships at this age aren’t necessary.
Anonymous
An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.


That sounds like friends hanging out. I have no problems with my teens doing that with a group of friends.

No need for 1:1 dates like that until they’re a little older.


They don't have the same group of friend, so it is not in a group. It's just two kids of the opposite sex hanging out together in a public place. Seems fine to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do not allow it or encourage it. A 14-year-old is not in a position to "date" anyone. If they're a boy, they don't have the resources to take a girl out on dates and I'm certainly not footing the bill for his romantic life.

It's fine to like and have romantic feelings for someone, but I don't think it's healthy for kids at this age to have entangled, adult-like, exclusive relationships that come with all of the obligations and rollercoasters that come with engaging in those things. Not to mention the physical ramifications such as pregnancy and STDs.

I think I might not encourage it but would be tolerable of a 17 or 18 year old starting to do that stuff, but definitely not a 14 year old. They're an absolute mental and emotional mess and I've seen too many toxic and destructive boyfriend-girlfriend entanglements to encourage that for my kids at that age.


You seem oddly out of touch. You might not encourage it but you're not going to be able to do much to stop it.


I think you're oddly out of touch for believing as a parent that you lack the power to set expectations for your kids and to hold them to them. But hey, if you want to be held hostage to a 14-year-old, good luck.


+1

This board has a persistent perv-mom who says all kids are having xes behind your back. She's so wise because she accepts her minor children having a double-digit number of xes partners and you're just not as enlightened as she is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.


That sounds like friends hanging out. I have no problems with my teens doing that with a group of friends.

No need for 1:1 dates like that until they’re a little older.


They don't have the same group of friend, so it is not in a group. It's just two kids of the opposite sex hanging out together in a public place. Seems fine to me.


OK. Then it is NOT DATING.
Anonymous

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What I Wish My Mom Taught Me About Sex When I Was a Teen

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My mom didn’t talk to me about sex that much growing up. In fact, I think she spelled it out in hushed tones until I was 18, and then we barely acknowledged it again until my thirties.

When it did come up when I had a more serious boyfriend, she would say things like, “You know, once you have (whispering) s-e-x, you can’t take it back.” Or, “If you get pregnant, regardless of your decision, it will change your life forever.”

Having conversations about sex is difficult for almost every parent

I grew up with an amazing mom, but many women in her generation did not know how to openly discuss sex. And it IS hard. I don’t think there is a young person out there who wants to imagine their parents “doing it” or a mom or dad who wants to bring it up at the dinner table.

But here’s the thing: I had no idea what a healthy sexual relationship should look like. I didn’t know the rules, or even if there were any. Besides the threatening encouragement to wait until I was married or not be stupid and get pregnant, I didn’t get it.

Why is it so hard to talk to your teens about sex?

Most parents in my mom’s generation felt like any talk about sex would actually encourage their kids to have it. There was no mention of the way sex should feel or how to know when you may be ready, or even that sex can be fun if with the right person.

Instead, the messages I received from the outside world told me that sex was sinful, that the onus was on me not to lead a guy on, and girls who had sex were not the marrying kind.


Sex and intimacy were something I feared. It became something I wanted to control and something incredibly difficult to discuss.

There were times alcohol became liquid courage to reduce my inhibitions, and there were times I probably went farther than I wanted to simply because I was embarrassed to say anything to my partner.


And now here I sit, raising three teenagers in what’s known as the “hook-up generation”—and I’m terrified that my daughters may feel as confused, scared, and ashamed as I did when talking about sex.

Most teens want sex education from informed sources

I recently read an article about how the Dutch approach sex education. I was amazed to find out that simple sex ed begins as early as kindergarten.

Boys and girls are taught about menstrual cycles and wet dreams, and all the other awkward conversations at an extremely early age.


And guess what? They have among the lowest incidences of teenage pregnancy and STDs in the world—and the average age of the first sexual encounter is much older than in the United States.

We need to demystify sex and encourage our kids to have important conversations BEFORE their first encounters instead of trying to teach them to learn from their mistakes.


It’s never too late–or too early–to talk to your kids about sexuality

There are always age-appropriate ways to discuss any topic. While I don’t think you need to talk about intercourse with a six-year-old, they should start to understand the correct names of body parts, appropriate versus inappropriate touching, and honest answers to questions they may have.

On the flip side, tweens and teens should have access to information that can help them make informed and appropriate decisions about sex. We can’t be so naive to think that our big kids won’t be put in precarious situations.


Teens need more than just our opinions and judgments about when they should have sex. They need information and resources about sexual health, such as how to prevent sexually transmitted infections and HPV/PID, birth control options, how to talk about sexual history, and how to identify and report abusive relationships.

Six things I told my daughters about having a healthy sexual relationship

I opened the dialogue about sex when my kids were between 10 and 11. In middle school was when they started hearing discussions about things such as “blow jobs,” “69,” and other sexual innuendoes.

It was so uncomfortable to describe these acts, but I couldn’t imagine how uncomfortable it must be for my kids not to understand them. I also worried that their friends would give them misinformation.

Parenting tip: I would talk to my teens for a brief amount of time, and then encouraged them to read certain articles I found on those topics, encouraging them to ask me any questions afterwards. I also said we could exchange notes, texts, etc. on any topic. I didn’t care how they communicated with me, as long as they communicated.


So here’s what I shared:

Sex and intimacy can be the best part of a relationship. It can be fun and satisfying and pleasurable and healthy when both people are on the same page with what they are doing. To enjoy it, however, there must be a foundation of mutual respect, trust, and ultimately, love.

If you are embarrassed to talk about sex with someone, you probably shouldn’t be having it. There should be clear discussions (and agreement) on what aspects of sex you are willing to participate in, what precautions you need to be taking, and that at any time, ANY TIME, in the process, either one of you can change your mind.


Consent is a discussion you should have over and over with your teens. I want them to know that regardless of what they are wearing, regardless if they went into someone’s room, regardless if they have been drinking, regardless what their friends have done sexually or what they think they should be doing, sex should always be an agreed upon action between two people.

Be prepared for anything. While I want my daughters to be the type of girls to stand up for themselves, I also remember getting myself into some precarious situations in high school and college. When your child is in the throes and worried that backing out can make someone volatile or vengeful, it’s OK to have some excuses at the ready. “I just got my period” or “I just remembered that I have to drive my friend home” may help to defuse a tough situation.


On the flip side, I also make sure condoms are readily accessible in my home in a place they can access without me knowing, and talked to them about other forms of birth control and how to obtain it. Knowledge is power.

Sex will change a relationship. I want them to know that while sex can be amazing, it should never be a decision they take lightly. While it can deepen the connection of a relationship, there are times that sex can also change the trajectory of a relationship in a negative way. This is why it’s important to know why you want to have sex, understand your needs in the process—and be comfortable enough to discuss them.

There is no benchmark for when you should have sex with someone. There are no milestones you need to meet or conquests you need to achieve. There is no right age to when you have sex. There is no amount of dates or time that goes by that says, “Now it’s okay to have sex!” It is deeply personal and unique to every relationship.

And I want them to know, I really want them to know, that shame shouldn’t be a part of a sexual relationship. If something you have done or someone makes you feel ashamed, it’s time to make a change and think about what’s best for YOU. Shame comes into play when one person forces the other to go farther using guilt or fear tactics, such as saying, “If you really loved me, you would do it,” or, “I have needs, and if you can’t fulfill them, I need to find someone who can.” Sex isn’t a bargaining chip.


On the flip side, you shouldn’t feel shame discussing sex with anyone. Not doctors, friends, your significant other, or even your parents. If someone is making you feel ashamed about your sexual history, it’s about their preconceived notions about sex, not yours. It’s okay to wish you did something different, but you should not be ashamed that you made a mistake.

Sex should make you feel good—about yourself and about your relationship. If someone mocks you, shares intimate details, or breaks your trust, it’s time to rethink your relationship.

One last thing: when in doubt, waiting until the next day can change your entire perspective.

You will never regret having these hard discussions with your teen

I get it. Talking with your teen about sex can feel excruciating for all involved,

But demystifying sex and remaining open to their questions is a great way to show love and respect for your child, to remain their safe place, and demonstrate that you believe they deserve the best
Anonymous
Romeo and Juliet, aged 16 and 13, gave us one of the greatest love stories ever told.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The pro-teen dating parents are so committed to their delusions and they want to gaslight those of us who recognize that the emotional intensity of an exclusive romantic relationship is NOT something young teens should be dabbling in, into believing we’re the unreasonable ones.


An exclusive romantic relationship is not the same thing as two 14 year olds going to a local ice cream place a few time to hang out.


Let the group of boys and girls go to the local ice cream place and hang out. More the merrier.


What is the difference, besides everyone being loud and annoying and peer pressure to kiss/hook up
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
What are your family's rules about dating for this age group?
Our family rule was NO DATING until they were in 2nd year of college and at least 19 years old. They were encouraged to paint us as super strict parents to get out of all kinds of peer pressure and uncomfortable situations. A boy who was interested in my DD in school, asked her friend to be his girlfriend in less than 15 minutes once my DD told him that we were very strict. My DD was amused how quickly he found a substitute. Good lesson for her.

Did our conservative guidance from K-12 depress or anger our kids? Did they become social outcasts? Did they rebel in college? Are they nerds?
Nope. Mainly because we were wish fulfilling in other ways - loving family, frank communication, creating a vibrant social network of family and friends for them, giving them a sense of purpose, having a close knit and functional family, the privilege of a UMC-adjacent lifestyle etc.



Did your daughter go to Homeschool University in college, or do you have a vivid fantasy of what she was doing in college?

WTH is "UMC-adjacent lifestyle "?

That whole long post reads like fanfic.


Nope. Undergrad and grad in cs. T5. Dated a lot and found her significant other in grad school.

UMC adjacent - Not a crazy high HHI for DCUM. But, due to some smart financial moves, could afford UMC things like vacations, tutors, big house, cars, debt free college etc,

Oh nooooo! Fanfic? Is abstinence really so hard for your horny teens?



I don’t believe you.

Your bible thumping family isn’t perfect.

Your kids just didn’t tell you. At least ours are open with us.

Stats say you are way off abstinence dies work.
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