Just noticed the top flagships (besides in Ca) are all in red/purple states rather than blue ones

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI


Inevitably these college towns are overwhelmingly blue. Very interesting.

It is like in a sea of ignorance, racism and hate in the state, these college towns are islands of knowledge, hope and sanity. Maybe the crazy red general population is driving the sane intelligent blue individuals of these states to these colleges as a place of refuge.




Why is that very interesting? Of course college towns are overwhelmingly blue, that's where the professors live, and colleges shun conservatives.


It’s the opposite.


Is it? Because I'm constantly reading all the bit--ing and whining on here about liberal elites at colleges who don't give conservatives a voice on campus?
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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI


Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/



Wisconsin, historically has been very purple. Austin being blue doesn't mean UT isn't in a read state


You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?


It’s been pointed out more than once that the schools at issue are all very well-funded and many in-state students attend for free. At this stage of the economy, legislators of any state could propose a bill to reduce spending for higher education. So when you go to any public school, you take that chance.
And if your kid has a miscarriage, it’s a miscarriage. Nobody is going to jail for a miscarriage. But, if that’s all that matters to you, then you won’t send your kid to one of these annointed “good” schools and you’ll be happy paying full-boat at a private in a blue state that will allow for your kid to get as many abortions as she wants.


The chances of blue state legislators reducing funding for higher education, particularly economic engines like state flagships is minimal.

As to the bolded, you are not paying attention to red state legislation, particularly in states like Missouri, Ohio, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Tennessee.


You just assume that college girls just fool around and get pregnant (without marriage), correct? Even those who do fool around, there are condoms and contraception.


Both of which can & do fail. Not to mention there’s rape.



And adjacent states! Or their home state! Imagine that!
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What about Illinois? Blue state- high ranking in engineering and computer science
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?


It’s been pointed out more than once that the schools at issue are all very well-funded and many in-state students attend for free. At this stage of the economy, legislators of any state could propose a bill to reduce spending for higher education. So when you go to any public school, you take that chance.
And if your kid has a miscarriage, it’s a miscarriage. Nobody is going to jail for a miscarriage. But, if that’s all that matters to you, then you won’t send your kid to one of these annointed “good” schools and you’ll be happy paying full-boat at a private in a blue state that will allow for your kid to get as many abortions as she wants.


The chances of blue state legislators reducing funding for higher education, particularly economic engines like state flagships is minimal.

As to the bolded, you are not paying attention to red state legislation, particularly in states like Missouri, Ohio, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Tennessee.


You just assume that college girls just fool around and get pregnant (without marriage), correct? Even those who do fool around, there are condoms and contraception.


And neither are 100% reliable, right?
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?



Well then just don't go! For the life of me, I can't figure out why people from other parts of the country scream and cry about the politics of the sunbelt states, yet still move down here in droves.

Guys, if you don't like the values and politics associated with area DON'T MOVE HERE!
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?



Well then just don't go! For the life of me, I can't figure out why people from other parts of the country scream and cry about the politics of the sunbelt states, yet still move down here in droves.

Guys, if you don't like the values and politics associated with area DON'T MOVE HERE!


1) Many are baby boomer retirees and don't care anymore as their kids are graduated. 2) Others moved during the pandemic for remote working before it became fully apparent how draconian the policies are. The abortion policies, banning books and education that makes people uncomfortable etc. were a surprise after people moved.
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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Wisconsin turning blue?


Wisconsin is blue save the gerrymander. More Wisconsinites vote for Dems, but the GOP legislature has packed them into districts, skewing the "majority" to the GOP.

MI voters passed 2 initiatives in 2018, one for voter access and the other to appoint a nonpartisan redistricting commission. Those new districts went into effect for the 2022 election. Dems were cautiously optimistic about taking the state senate; pretty much no one expected them to take the state house too.

I don't think WI citizens can introduce ballot measures, so, sadly, they are stuck with this gerrymander for the foreseeable future.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


Some of us would prefer our kids and their friends have access to needed medical care, without having to drive OOS to get it. Some of our kids would prefer the same. My own kid said no to Southern schools---they want to be somewhere with diversity that truly supports every person and that the community does as well. So while she is a cisgender straight female, she has friends who are not. Her sorority is the most LGTBQ supportive on campus, has a transgender member in her pledge class who will be living in her suite next year. She wanted to be somewhere that this is not an issue for anyone---where majority think nothing about it because it is just life and "great nice to meet you, ok that is who you are, awesome---let's go grab lunch".
When your kid expresses this desire, you make sure they find the right place. Also we support that, because we would never want to live somewhere that wasn't like that (and never have).

Also, one kid lives in one of those Purple states Large flagship town, where once you leave that town and the other large city in the state, it is rural and crazy deep red. Kid went to college in the other large city which was very diverse. Now lives in the state flagship town and while great place with mostly highly educated people, the diversity is already lacking versus where they went to college. Kid noticed the lack of diversity the first few days there. Wishes there was more diversity, but loves the job and happy to be near friends still in college.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?



Well then just don't go! For the life of me, I can't figure out why people from other parts of the country scream and cry about the politics of the sunbelt states, yet still move down here in droves.

Guys, if you don't like the values and politics associated with area DON'T MOVE HERE!


Don't worry---I certainly won't be. Likewise, don't more places you don't like the politics (deep blue state except for rural areas/other half the state), then complain constantly.
My own kid specifically did not want to head into the sunbelt or any states like that, so you know what, they didn't apply anywhere there. Simple really
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?



Well then just don't go! For the life of me, I can't figure out why people from other parts of the country scream and cry about the politics of the sunbelt states, yet still move down here in droves.

Guys, if you don't like the values and politics associated with area DON'T MOVE HERE!


1) Many are baby boomer retirees and don't care anymore as their kids are graduated. 2) Others moved during the pandemic for remote working before it became fully apparent how draconian the policies are. The abortion policies, banning books and education that makes people uncomfortable etc. were a surprise after people moved.




Dude, this is a phenomena that has been going on for decades. And people who live in these areas are sick of it. If you don't like the culture of where your moving to, don't go. There are tons of blue places to move to instead.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?



Well then just don't go! For the life of me, I can't figure out why people from other parts of the country scream and cry about the politics of the sunbelt states, yet still move down here in droves.

Guys, if you don't like the values and politics associated with area DON'T MOVE HERE!


Don't worry---I certainly won't be. Likewise, don't more places you don't like the politics (deep blue state except for rural areas/other half the state), then complain constantly.
My own kid specifically did not want to head into the sunbelt or any states like that, so you know what, they didn't apply anywhere there. Simple really



Thank you.
I don't get why people feel the need to announce that they won't be sending their kids to Florida for college because of the politics. No one is forcing kids to go to Florida for college.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?



Well then just don't go! For the life of me, I can't figure out why people from other parts of the country scream and cry about the politics of the sunbelt states, yet still move down here in droves.

Guys, if you don't like the values and politics associated with area DON'T MOVE HERE!


1) Many are baby boomer retirees and don't care anymore as their kids are graduated. 2) Others moved during the pandemic for remote working before it became fully apparent how draconian the policies are. The abortion policies, banning books and education that makes people uncomfortable etc. were a surprise after people moved.




Dude, this is a phenomena that has been going on for decades. And people who live in these areas are sick of it. If you don't like the culture of where your moving to, don't go. There are tons of blue places to move to instead.


In Florida? Not really. It was pretty purple for a long time. The cities are still blue. I can see how it was an attractive option during the pandemic (stuff is open! kids are in school!) and then it started getting pretty ridiculous after Dobbs and the 2022 election.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?


It’s been pointed out more than once that the schools at issue are all very well-funded and many in-state students attend for free. At this stage of the economy, legislators of any state could propose a bill to reduce spending for higher education. So when you go to any public school, you take that chance.
And if your kid has a miscarriage, it’s a miscarriage. Nobody is going to jail for a miscarriage. But, if that’s all that matters to you, then you won’t send your kid to one of these annointed “good” schools and you’ll be happy paying full-boat at a private in a blue state that will allow for your kid to get as many abortions as she wants.


The chances of blue state legislators reducing funding for higher education, particularly economic engines like state flagships is minimal.

As to the bolded, you are not paying attention to red state legislation, particularly in states like Missouri, Ohio, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Tennessee.


You just assume that college girls just fool around and get pregnant (without marriage), correct? Even those who do fool around, there are condoms and contraception.


Both of which can & do fail. Not to mention there’s rape.



And adjacent states! Or their home state! Imagine that!


Not everyone can afford to drive 4+ hours to a neighboring state or has a friend to come with them for that long on a weekday when in school. Not everyone can afford to fly/drive to their home state. Not everyone wants their parents aware of these issues...
So many reasons why "but there are places in the USA where it's legal" is not the appropriate response.
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Anonymous wrote:If the schools are good, then who cares about the politics of the state? Honestly, too many are too loud about politics. Go to the school that is the best fit for you and love your life!


All of this political hand-wringing is ruining our nation.


if the schools are great and GOP politicians decide to cut education funding for said schools, that impacts the quality of teaching and other resources for said school, not?
If the schools are great, but a co-ed can be thrown in jail for having a miscarriage, that seems problematic, no?


It’s been pointed out more than once that the schools at issue are all very well-funded and many in-state students attend for free. At this stage of the economy, legislators of any state could propose a bill to reduce spending for higher education. So when you go to any public school, you take that chance.
And if your kid has a miscarriage, it’s a miscarriage. Nobody is going to jail for a miscarriage. But, if that’s all that matters to you, then you won’t send your kid to one of these annointed “good” schools and you’ll be happy paying full-boat at a private in a blue state that will allow for your kid to get as many abortions as she wants.


The chances of blue state legislators reducing funding for higher education, particularly economic engines like state flagships is minimal.

As to the bolded, you are not paying attention to red state legislation, particularly in states like Missouri, Ohio, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Tennessee.


You just assume that college girls just fool around and get pregnant (without marriage), correct? Even those who do fool around, there are condoms and contraception.


Both of which can & do fail. Not to mention there’s rape.



And adjacent states! Or their home state! Imagine that!


Not everyone can afford to drive 4+ hours to a neighboring state or has a friend to come with them for that long on a weekday when in school. Not everyone can afford to fly/drive to their home state. Not everyone wants their parents aware of these issues...
So many reasons why "but there are places in the USA where it's legal" is not the appropriate response.


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