Just noticed the top flagships (besides in Ca) are all in red/purple states rather than blue ones

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Anonymous wrote:I think this is because private universities were established in New England before public universities really got going, so those in blue states had to compete with prestigious incumbents whereas those elsewhere did not.

Or maybe those states don't care about higher education as much as Florida or Georgia or Texas. Have any NE states even attempted to set up R1 universities?

Except for Rhode Island and Vermont, they do have R1 universities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is because private universities were established in New England before public universities really got going, so those in blue states had to compete with prestigious incumbents whereas those elsewhere did not.

Or maybe those states don't care about higher education as much as Florida or Georgia or Texas. Have any NE states even attempted to set up R1 universities?

Except for Rhode Island and Vermont, they do have R1 universities.

I should say *public* R1 universities, obviously Rhode Island has Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/

Wisconsin, historically has been very purple. Austin being blue doesn't mean UT isn't in a read state

Of course but I feel Wisconsin is purple bluish and Texas is deep red state.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Then Gov Walker and the GOP gutted Wisconsin. Evers has done a great job of restoring funding.

Texas is losing good applicants for professors and current professors over the tenure fights: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/20/texas-senate-tenure-universities/

DiSantis is gutting Florida public education, particularly at the college level.

Michigan is solidly blue now.
Virginia is basically a blue state that had a charleton win on lies for Governor.

UNC is a abberation and I wouldn't consider GA to be in the same class as the CA, MI and other schools.

Ever heard of Georgia Tech?

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UMD is very good as are SUNY schools. And, obviously, CA.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/

Same for Iowa. Iowa city is far from a res city and the university is great

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/

Same for Iowa. Iowa city is far from a res city and the university is great

many cities that are home to flagships are very blue even if that state isn't- madison, ann arbor, iowa city, austin, columbus, chapel hill, athens, morgantown, bloomington off the top of my head.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the Northeast is the dominant region that is mostly blue, and they developed tons of reputable private colleges that pre-date the birth of the country. It has to do with that historical context, and when and how public universities came to be.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Then Gov Walker and the GOP gutted Wisconsin. Evers has done a great job of restoring funding.

Texas is losing good applicants for professors and current professors over the tenure fights: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/04/20/texas-senate-tenure-universities/

DiSantis is gutting Florida public education, particularly at the college level.

Michigan is solidly blue now.
Virginia is basically a blue state that had a charleton win on lies for Governor.

UNC is a abberation and I wouldn't consider GA to be in the same class as the CA, MI and other schools.

GA tech is really desirable and the state is purple.

I am pretty moderate and there is no way I would send my student to college in FL. It is a performative exercise by the governor that is ruining higher education. I would run for the hills.

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A lot of these universities (Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan) became good when the state was more progressive and invested heavily in education. That reputation persists despite recent political shifts.

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Conservatives are more Friday night football, rah rah. Let's get drunk at a tailgate party.

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Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/

Every single flagship OP mentioned is in a blue city, not deep red.

Educated people tend to lean liberal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/

Every single flagship OP mentioned is in a blue city, not deep red.

Educated people tend to lean liberal.

But if the states are Purple/red and the laws change you could have reason to be concerned for your kid (both male and female) and their access to medical resources.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very interesting

See: WI, NC, GA, FL, TX, VA, MI

Madison has historically been a very liberal city, and the university has a long history of student activism

https://www.library.wisc.edu/archives/exhibits/campus-history-projects/protests-social-action-at-uw-madison-during-the-20th-century/

Every single flagship OP mentioned is in a blue city, not deep red.

Educated people tend to lean liberal.

But if the states are Purple/red and the laws change you could have reason to be concerned for your kid (both male and female) and their access to medical resources.

Check to see if there's a lot of gerrymandering. That's what will suppress the will of the people in a purple state. The general populace don't want a ban and will vote against one unless, there are red shenanigans going on in state government.

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NY does not have a typical flagship school. But, NY residents do get a significant tuition discount at certain colleges within Cornell. Great opportunity.

And “besides California” is a huge exception.