America is far from free. Why do we accept living under perpetual fear of endless gun violence?
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Anonymous
You ever look at the breakdown of who is dying in conservative states? |
Anonymous
Says you. Democrats are trying to enact federal gun control restrictions, and they should get credit for that. Not just lumped in with Republicans as part of a nihilistic #BothSides complaint. |
Anonymous
They are not doing enough. They aren't doing anything that will put a serious dent in this issue. And they are super soft on crime, disdain crime victims, and pretend that we should ignore crime because somehow that will help minority communities (which is clearly false). So they aren't stopping the flow of guns AND are actively stopping the enforcement of laws. You know this is true. You just haven't let yourself accept that they gave hung us out to dry. |
Anonymous
What's nihilistic is the constant political point scoring over the dead bodies of families and children and pretending to fight for gun control when you're really doing nothing of the sort. This isn't a both sides issue bc the GOP doesn't pretend to try to control the sale of guns. Honestly, someone posted that they want to hire 200 ATF agents. That is NOTHING for the scale of this problem. We need a crackdown. |
Anonymous
You are just repeating a tired partisan narrative. Democrats don’t want to ignore crime and until you can bother yourself enough to learn the true opinions of people it is useless to try to discuss anything intelligently with you. |
Anonymous
Along what lines/categories? |
Anonymous
The true opinions have been stated many times. Democrats believe we can reduce gun violence by reducing the supply of guns. Republicans believe we can reduce gun violence with aggressive policing and stronger criminal penalties. So now we have the worst of all worlds with no real gun control and no real criminal enforcement. This is not a partisan talking point. Partisans are busy explaining why it's the other party's fault. I am saying that I think there's many ways to reduce gun violence and right now, politicians are doing less than ever to reduce gun violence and the problem is escalating. |
Anonymous
| And another thing. You know who fixed crime before? Bill Clinton. He went tough on crime, and tough on guns. This has been done before, they just won't do it now. https://clintonwhitehouse5.archives.gov/textonly/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-06.html |
Anonymous
| Does anyone have statistics on probability of one becoming a victim of random gun violence being at a wrong time in a wrong place, vs. other risks like getting killed in a car accident, from natural disaster (tornadoes, floods, fires), or from homicide as a result of robbery/burglary/sexual assault, etc. |
Anonymous
Age/racial demographics. If you did, you would see that in red states, most of the firearms deaths for whites are among older males as suicides'. Most of the firearms deaths overall are younger black males are homicides, at 10-20x the rate of their white peers. It's a social justice issue that transcends which party is in power and which state you are in. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Red state citizens - regardless of demographic or wealth lines - die at higher rates and earlier than their counterparts in Blue states. Pretty much all of the negative trends are more pronounced in Republican run states. If you’re a white wealthy guy in Alabama, you’re more likely to die young or violently than a white wealthy guy in Scarsdale. White women giving birth in Alabama have a higher infant mortality rate than their white counterparts in Massachusetts. No one is impressed by white Alabamans who say “yeah, well the black guy across town is worse off than me!” |
Anonymous
These are kind of interesting but also misleading. Presumably the statistical rate is calculated on the basis of the entire population which is fine for choking and motor vehicles. But a very small subset rides motorbikes and bikes, for example, and so a rate based on the entire population vastly underestimates the risk for people who actually do engage in those activities. |
Anonymous
A lot if our men have everything in common with the Taliban. Few things are more dangerous than lost, uneducated, bored, unskilled, hopeless men age 18-40 in a culture that perpetuates unhealthy ideas of what masculine is. We have a gun problem. And we have a man problem. |
Anonymous
You're focusing on the wrong thing. When the same thing occurs in red or blue states among the same group, then that it is not the Rs nor the D's that are providing solutions. Either both the R's and the D's are deliberately discriminating against them in some way, the solutions they provide simply don't work, or that demographic has some unique cultural feature. It's a hot potato that no one wants to address. Over police that group, you run into problems. Neglect that group, you into problems. Pass more laws, you don't solve the problems. Throw more cash into services, you don't solve the problems. Hence nothing changes. |